Pandemic 2020

[PJ Diaz]

If you read the article you would know your answer.

 

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In other words you think the article proves your conspiracy laden mind?

 

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‘We Need to Be Prepared for This': COVID Nightmare Variant Spreading, Already in US

XBB, the new so-called “nightmare” COVID-19 variant, is spreading rapidly in parts of the world and has already made its way to the U.S., researchers say. XBB is a variant of omicron and has been dubbed the “nightmare variant” in Singapore. It is extremely immune evasive and has also shown that...

www.nbcboston.com

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

I don’t follow very much with what going on with covid anymore. I hear some news and see some people wearing masks but it just seems so surreal anymore. I spent the entire weekend in NYC on the subways and streets and museums and no one wears masks but a few die hards here and there and i keep reflecting on what happened and what is and it all seems so strange and curious. I think, why is that person wearing a mask and should I? Will they be one of the last survivors on earth? Lol . Was this all blown out of proportion? No, I remember the news and refrigerator trucks for dead bodies, I saw it all on TV in the seclusion of my office in Oklahoma. Lol. I got sick for a few days after the last booster and no way want to do that again if i don’t have to.

 

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I don’t follow very much with what going on with covid anymore. I hear some news and see some people wearing masks but it just seems so surreal anymore. I spent the entire weekend in NYC on the subways and streets and museums and no one wears masks but a few die hards here and there and i keep reflecting on what happened and what is and it all seems so strange and curious. I think, why is that person wearing a mask and should I? Will they be one of the last survivors on earth? Lol . Was this all blown out of proportion? No, I remember the news and refrigerator trucks for dead bodies, I saw it all on TV in the seclusion of my office in Oklahoma. Lol. I got sick for a few days after the last booster and no way want to do that again if i don’t have to.

It's still out there, but being treated as endemic now, the last I heard it was still killing a lot of people every week in North America. Fall boosters are the order of business up here where it gets cold in the winter, flu season promises to be a killer this year and I gotta get a shot soon. For those concerned there are vaccines that offer some protection and antiviral meds with better vaccines on the way in a year or two I figure. The local public health officials will be concerned when the hospitals are full, that appears to be the metric.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

It's still out there, but being treated as endemic now, the last I heard it was still killing a lot of people every week in North America. Fall boosters are the order of business up here where it gets cold in the winter, flu season promises to be a killer this year and I gotta get a shot soon. For those concerned there are vaccines that offer some protection and antiviral meds with better vaccines on the way in a year or two I figure. The local public health officials will be concerned when the hospitals are full, that appears to be the metric.

I will be working as healthcare in New Jersey and they have strict vax rules. Hopefully it is a calm winter and I am glad I am here now and not 2 years ago. I feel bad for these folks and can’t imagine how some must have some sort of PTSD from the pandemic. I kinda get that vibe once and while when I see people wearing n95 masks outside . Like they really got mental from it. It’s so sad. When I was in NYC this weekend like no one had on masks in mid Manhattan or the lower east side but when I was in Chinatown lots of people had them on. It’s like so weird.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I will be working as healthcare in New Jersey and they have strict vax rules. Hopefully it is a calm winter and I am glad I am here now and not 2 years ago. I feel bad for these folks and can’t imagine how some must have some sort of PTSD from the pandemic. I kinda get that vibe once and while when I see people wearing n95 masks outside . Like they really got mental from it. It’s so sad. When I was in NYC this weekend like no one had on masks in mid Manhattan or the lower east side but when I was in Chinatown lots of people had them on. It’s like so weird.

I wear one inside public places, like the grocery store, or paying for gas, but not outside. Most people here dropped masks when the government and private requirements dropped, but compliance was good and infection rates were low for most of the pandemic. Glad to see your back home and it appears to be a more hospitable place for growers, if the democrats win the house and senate federal legalization is a given. Nobody knows what will happen this time around, the polls are not to be trusted and I think abortion might be a bigger issue than polls indicate, it could go either way IMHO.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

I wear one inside public places, like the grocery store, or paying for gas, but not outside. Most people here dropped masks when the government and private requirements dropped, but compliance was good and infection rates were low for most of the pandemic. Glad to see your back home and it appears to be a more hospitable place for growers, if the democrats win the house and senate federal legalization is a given. Nobody knows what will happen this time around, the polls are not to be trusted and I think abortion might be a bigger issue than polls indicate, it could go either way IMHO.

I will go to Newark and hope to see CORY Booker, maybe smoke a bone with him. I see chuck Schumer commercials on TV about gun laws that are awesome, maybe run into him one day would be cool.
Abortion rights are huge here. There are lots of commercials on TV supporting abortion rights and it’s very important here. Women in this part of the country are not going to give their rights up anytime soon without a fight . You don’t want to fuck with women of NY and NJ women and Philly women like Jill Biden. Take a look at the commercials and the anti abortionist shake in their shoes because these women will rip them apart like a pit Bull.

 

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The COVID symptoms you get depend on how many vaccine jabs you’ve had, major study says

Getting vaccinated reduces the risk of severe illness, but it also appears to influence which of the more common symptoms you come down with.

fortune.com

 

[PJ Diaz]

In other words you think the article proves your conspiracy laden mind?

No, but the article proves that some of these mad scientists just don't know when to stop with this gain of function shit. Do you think that making a more deadly version of the covid virus at a lab in Boston is somehow a good thing?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

No, but the article proves that some of these mad scientists just don't know when to stop with this gain of function shit. Do you think that making a more deadly version of the covid virus at a lab in Boston is somehow a good thing?

Professionals make the calls, not fear driven conspiracy theorists who do their "research" on the phone while having a shit. Perhaps biological research needs more responsible oversight, but that is a call for professionals to make including medical ethicists. If you want to control these things in America, how about the rest of the world and countries who don't share your values? Privately funded research can do whatever they want in America, unless specifically covered by law, the only control is through funding studies and that is not political thing at that level. So, unless ya wanna burn books, yer on the ride into the mysterious future with the rest of us.

Constantly looking for things that confirm your biases is not research, it is the rationalization of a feeling, a base emotion, not a search for the truth about things. You become easy prey for those who would shit in yer ear.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Professionals make the calls, not fear driven conspiracy theorists who do their "research" on the phone while having a shit. Perhaps biological research needs more responsible oversight, but that is a call for professionals to make including medical ethicists. If you want to control these things in America, how about the rest of the world and countries who don't share your values? Privately funded research can do whatever they want in America, unless specifically covered by law, the only control is through funding studies and that is not political thing at that level. So, unless ya wanna burn books, yer on the ride into the mysterious future with the rest of us.

Constantly looking for things that confirm your biases is not research, it is the rationalization of a feeling, a base emotion, not a search for the truth about things. You become easy prey for those who would shit in yer ear.

You didn't read the article did you?

"An official from NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) added to concerns by telling STAT her division was unaware of the specific experiments. She said they likely should have been evaluated to see whether they needed to go through a special review for NIH-funded GOF studies that create so-called enhanced potential pandemic pathogens."

 

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No, but the article proves that some of these mad scientists just don't know when to stop with this gain of function shit. Do you think that making a more deadly version of the covid virus at a lab in Boston is somehow a good thing?

Sometimes you need to see where you are going rather than where you have been. In a properly controlled environment with proper safeguards in place I would not be too concerned. But not a bunch of students messing about trying to finish their thesis paper.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Sometimes you need to see where you are going rather than where you have been. In a properly controlled environment with proper safeguards in place I would not be too concerned. But not a bunch of students messing about trying to finish their thesis paper.

Lab leaks "happen all the time".

Ex-US health official claims virus lab leaks happen ‘all the time’

‘If Covid originated in a Wuhan lab, it would take a whistleblower for truth to come out,’ he says

www.independent.co.uk

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

You didn't read the article did you?

I've read articles about the issue and if it were a serious one more professionals would be concerned. Didn't I say the only control the government has is through funding? Control over these things is with the scientists and their professional and academic associations. Professions govern themselves, that's why they are professions.

 

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Lab leaks "happen all the time".

Ex-US health official claims virus lab leaks happen ‘all the time’

‘If Covid originated in a Wuhan lab, it would take a whistleblower for truth to come out,’ he says

www.independent.co.uk

Only the first paragraph visible. Hope it is similar to this page.

Gottlieb: Lab leaks happen all the time

Scott Gottlieb, the former head of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), said on Sunday that lab leaks “happen all the time” while discussing the theory that COVID-19 may have emerged from a…

thehill.com

My point. There are a lot of labs in universities that have students carrying on without direct supervision. On the other had we have level four labs where work is done on the most hazardous viruses (and the like).

 

[Rurumo]

All the conspiracy theories thrown around regarding that Wuhan lab ignore the simplest explanation that we have video evidence of. There is a 2019 video of those Wuhan lab researchers collecting bats inside the local caves, and honestly, the video is horrifying...it's so obvious what happened here. They were gassing the bats and then had workers collect them with no protective gear at all, gloves, masks nothing, just hour after hour, handling hundreds of bats with their bare hands. Even the lead researcher was just wearing a surgical mask, deep inside that dank ass cave full of bat guano. I wish people would resist the conspiracy impulse as their first option and look for the simplest explanation for what happened. SARS almost turned into a Covid type pandemic back in 03-we just got lucky with the mutations on that one. Scientists have known for decades a coronavirus pandemic was coming, the USA had the world's best coronavirus surveillance program before Trump axed it.

I got my second booster yesterday, for anyone interested in the benefit of a second booster I would direct you here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01832-0

 

[PJ Diaz]

I've read articles about the issue and if it were a serious one more professionals would be concerned. Didn't I say the only control the government has is through funding? Control over these things is with the scientists and their professional and academic associations. Professions govern themselves, that's why they are professions.

Right, and the government did fund them, although BU is claiming that it wasn't "direct funding" because it only paid for lab equipment. Seems pretty slippery to me. I'll post the same quote again, because apparently you missed it:
"An official from NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) added to concerns by telling STAT her division was unaware of the specific experiments. She said they likely should have been evaluated to see whether they needed to go through a special review for NIH-funded GOF studies that create so-called enhanced potential pandemic pathogens."

 

[PJ Diaz]

All the conspiracy theories thrown around regarding that Wuhan lab ignore the simplest explanation that we have video evidence of. There is a 2019 video of those Wuhan lab researchers collecting bats inside the local caves, and honestly, the video is horrifying...it's so obvious what happened here. They were gassing the bats and then had workers collect them with no protective gear at all, gloves, masks nothing, just hour after hour, handling hundreds of bats with their bare hands. Even the lead researcher was just wearing a surgical mask, deep inside that dank ass cave full of bat guano. I wish people would resist the conspiracy impulse as their first option and look for the simplest explanation for what happened. SARS almost turned into a Covid type pandemic back in 03-we just got lucky with the mutations on that one. Scientists have known for decades a coronavirus pandemic was coming, the USA had the world's best coronavirus surveillance program before Trump axed it.

I got my second booster yesterday, for anyone interested in the benefit of a second booster I would direct you here https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01832-0

I doubt that we'll ever know the true source, however the Wuhan Lab Leak is no longer considered a conspiracy theory, as it once was.

By the way, the study you posted doesn't address the current BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants.

 

[PJ Diaz]

I doubt that we'll ever know the true source, however the Wuhan Lab Leak is no longer considered a conspiracy theory, as it once was.

By the way, the study you posted doesn't address the current BA.4 and BA.5 sub-variants.

WHO makes U-turn, urging further investigation on 'lab leak' theory in new Covid report

New study is a U-turn for the agency, which was criticized for ruling out the theory last year and has faced accusations of being too deferential to Beijing.

www.nbcnews.com

State AGs say Fauci, Zuckerberg ‘colluded’ to kill COVID lab leak theory - WFIN Local News

Attorneys General in Missouri and Louisiana have compiled several pieces of evidence that they say shows Dr. Anthony Fauci worked directly with Big Tech companies to steer public discussion about COVID-19 and shut down talk about its origin, work that includes direct conversations with Facebook...

wfin.com

NIH Awards New Grant to U.S. Organization at Center of Covid-19 Lab Leak Controversy

In August, an EcoHealth Alliance award was terminated after the organization failed to turn over records critical to the Covid origin probe. The next month, it got a new grant.

theintercept.com