Breeding with 707 SeedBank

[conor c]

EXCELLENT! This tech seems to be well guarded. Thanks for the updates.

First person i personally ever heard of reversing males to see what traits they can potentially pass on was nevil when working with skunk strains so its been around for a while idk the story behind who discovered it originally or whatever but its a useful tool

 

[Rurumo]

First person i personally ever heard of reversing males to see what traits they can potentially pass on was nevil when working with skunk strains so its been around for a while idk the story behind who discovered it originally or whatever but its a useful tool

There was a lot of talk about reversing males with Florel on ICmag back in the late 00's, Skunkman used it a lot in his work (I've also heard Nevil too). I like this thread a lot https://www.icmag.com/threads/male-clones-transformed-to-female-to-judge-male-smoking-quality.95646/ I think it's a no-brainer, it adds a ton of info about the male and takes nothing but time and effort. . I was planning on doing it with one of my C99 males, but now I think I'll wait until I grow out the Tom Hill Haze next cycle.

 

[TheTerpinator]

First person i personally ever heard of reversing males to see what traits they can potentially pass on was nevil when working with skunk strains so its been around for a while idk the story behind who discovered it originally or whatever but its a useful tool

https://www.rollitup.org/t/breeding-with-707-seedbank.1078460/post-17039978

 

[conor c]

https://www.rollitup.org/t/breeding-with-707-seedbank.1078460/post-17039978

And where did u first hear about it yourself just out of curiosity mate ? Sorry to derail 707 s thread and all

 

[TheTerpinator]

And where did u first hear about it yourself just out of curiosity mate ? Sorry to derail 707 s thread and all

Right here in this thread. Haven't been researching it long.

 

[conor c]

Right here in this thread. Haven't been researching it long.

I see fair point man

 

[Hippiechik]

Male has been selected. This guy has the terp profile I'm looking for. Strong fruit punch terps similar to forbidden fruit but with less floral notes and more candy artificial fruit punch smell. Unlike anything I've smelled in cannabis before. I haven't been this excited for a breeding project for a long while now.
It will probably be early spring before I use him to make f2s.
Thanks for following. See you back here around May of 2023
Happy growing
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This looks very interesting. I am curious to see what happens with this project.

 

[428grower]

I've been doing it for almost 20 years

I've been doing it for almost 20 years

nice to see you in here, also great thread, looking forward to following along.

 

[doublejj]

are you the 707 that use to attend the RIU BBQ's?.....I know he was into pollen chucking...

 

[blkmkt1]

The photo above is a picture of a reversed Shaman male. If I wanted purple weed , now I know that male has it. Terps, give it a smell. Cannabanoids, I send it to the lab and see what it test for.
FloreL is ban in Europe. In the states you can buy it at most hardware stores. Cover up good when spraying with it and put on a respirator.

Sorry to jack the thread, but how would I use floral to stop some stressed induced herm going on. I just ordered some Florel and looking for proper dosage/mix ratio. I have noticed a few nanners on my ICC which have never hermed in the past. I did have some light exposure and possibly intensity issues. Thanks in advance!

 

[MissinThe90’sStrains]

If you’ve read through this thread at all, it was advised several times over to not ever use that stuff on product that will be consumed.

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

Come take a journey with me while I breed my Potion D Amour.

Potion D Amour is Forbidden Fruit x Kush Cleaner. The green pheno's have all the flavor of the Forbidden Fruit with the punch of the Kush Cleaner. Unfortunately, only about 10% are green and the others go purple. The purples ones taste incredible like FF but also have the potency of Forbidden Fruit.

This outdoor season I planted 1000 Potion D Amour seeds. The past week most the plants have been starting to show their sex.

The first step I take is selecting males from their structure. I took 3 cuttings from all the males that stood out to me and labeled them 1-66. I still have a few more trays to go but should have around 100 in total when done.

When the clones are rooted I'll take one clone of each male. Veg for 10 days then flower and start reversing the males into females.

Reversing the male plants into female cuts out most the guessing work in breeding. I can pinpoint the exact terp profile, color, and cannabanoids that I'm looking for in a male plant.
The goal of this project is to lock down the green genotype of the Potion D Amour into seed form. I hope by F3 i should have this accomplished. If all goes well should be done with it in 4 years
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Sha Bud the goat, Potion de Amor sounds great! Can you drop a line on Betsy ? I'm kicking the tires hard on picking her up.

 

[ChronicNuggets]

Shabud, thanks for sharing, enjoyed your breeders syndicate podcast and the old potcast was great too. Would love to see pic of a reversed male that was deemed worthy of keeping!

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

And how do you suppose you'll reverse male plants into females?

Male is the heterogametic sex (XY) and female is the homogametic one (XX). So the male in reverse will throw 50 percent male and 50 percent female seeds and if there's hermaphroditic traits up to 1/3 of those possible herm's.

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

Grew out the Potion de Amor and had an outstanding performance from them all indoors. The three phenos I saw were one real loud Tangie leaning that got fairly large and dense flowers with purple hues that held that smell and taste all the way through cure really well, stacked with golf ball nugs up the stem and got so heavy branches were weeble and wobbling last 2 weeks. The second one was another stacked plant that had a spiraling buds up the main branching and stayed green all the way through but had a mysterious lovely smell kind of a cream brulee and she was covered in White frosting and amazing producer but unfortunately I dried her out by accident night before chop so I rehydrated her and the plant came back to life but lost a bit of the great profile she had going. 3rd I found the most beautiful plant I've grown large purple flowers with sugar coated and a looser bud that would wash really well, this plant stacked itself really nicely but the scent was something different like lemon pine or strong floor cleaner. I have a few seeds left so we'll see. I had such a great grow I'm gonna kick around more like the 707 og to start with and may stick with running only 707 genetics because the genetics were strong and performed so well plus I like his line up it's what I've been searching for the last 5 yrs.

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

 

[Texas Growing Crew]

The purple phenol

 

[Terpselector]

Come take a journey with me while I breed my Potion D Amour.

Potion D Amour is Forbidden Fruit x Kush Cleaner. The green pheno's have all the flavor of the Forbidden Fruit with the punch of the Kush Cleaner. Unfortunately, only about 10% are green and the others go purple. The purples ones taste incredible like FF but also have the potency of Forbidden Fruit.

This outdoor season I planted 1000 Potion D Amour seeds. The past week most the plants have been starting to show their sex.

The first step I take is selecting males from their structure. I took 3 cuttings from all the males that stood out to me and labeled them 1-66. I still have a few more trays to go but should have around 100 in total when done.

When the clones are rooted I'll take one clone of each male. Veg for 10 days then flower and start reversing the males into females.

Reversing the male plants into female cuts out most the guessing work in breeding. I can pinpoint the exact terp profile, color, and cannabanoids that I'm looking for in a male plant.
The goal of this project is to lock down the green genotype of the Potion D Amour into seed form. I hope by F3 i should have this accomplished. If all goes well should be done with it in 4 years
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I just bought some potion d amore seeds. Are the ones you released the original F1s?