HGCC
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That's what drew my eye, and is the one redeeming quality of Arby's. No idea why more places don't carry them (hardees had them for a long time but i dont think they do anymore). I'm pretty intrigued by Canadian food stuffs.
Canadian Stuff
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CunningCanuk
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Ontario's government is 'strongly' recommending masks indoors. Why stop short of a mandate?
Offmymeds
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Stipulated, your Honor.
Roger A. Shrubber
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only if they're covered in cheese curds and gravy....
Roger A. Shrubber
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maybe they don't want to have to arrest all of the truck drivers in Canadia...again.
there is so much bad poutine out there,
DIY-HP-LED
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Same here in NS with a conservative government. Here is why it is different than covid, it can be stopped or slowed down by masks and hand washing and is not as contagious. Here is why it must be imposed, it is filling hospitals and killing children in large fucking numbers and the hospitals are overwhelmed and the pharmacies are out of fucking medication, get it? Any society that does not put its children first is fucking doomed! A mask is a simple thing that works, doesn't affect the economy and it is proven beyond any doubt to save the lives of kids from flu, covid and RVS.
Wear a mask in public and show you at least give a fuck about little kids and shouldn't mind the infringement on your freedum you dumb selfish fucks! Do some "research" while taking a shit and argue about it.
This is not about politics, it's about the lives of kids, the ones already born and expecting adults to protect them. If the anti-maskers thought they were hard done by with covid, try and argue about this shit and see what happens when people see them as a threat to their kids.
This is very serious shit, the hospitals are overflowing with sick kids and there are lots of toddlers dying, so people won't fuck around with them for long this winter. The solution is simple, wear a fucking mask while inside this winter and the governments need to mandate it to drive up compliance, it's that simple. Either that, or a lot more kids are gonna die in North America this winter than need to. Masks and hand washing are very effective against flu and RVS, less so with covid because it is one of the most infectious diseases known, but it still helps.
Wear a mask in public and show you at least give a fuck about little kids and shouldn't mind the infringement on your freedum you dumb selfish fucks! Do some "research" while taking a shit and argue about it.
This is not about politics, it's about the lives of kids, the ones already born and expecting adults to protect them. If the anti-maskers thought they were hard done by with covid, try and argue about this shit and see what happens when people see them as a threat to their kids.This is very serious shit, the hospitals are overflowing with sick kids and there are lots of toddlers dying, so people won't fuck around with them for long this winter. The solution is simple, wear a fucking mask while inside this winter and the governments need to mandate it to drive up compliance, it's that simple. Either that, or a lot more kids are gonna die in North America this winter than need to. Masks and hand washing are very effective against flu and RVS, less so with covid because it is one of the most infectious diseases known, but it still helps.
CunningCanuk
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Mask mandates are less intrusive than vaccine mandates. They are easier to maintain and most people comply. The best part is they actually work.
Unfortunately for us living in Ontario, leadership is required to make it happen.
DIY-HP-LED
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What 1% of them? This is about masks not vaccines, but the same people will oppose it because reason did not lead them to their positions in the first place. Fuck the kids, freedum, besides wearing a mask inside a public place or a plane is so much bother. It's Trudeau being a Nazi! Even though most such mandates are a provincial responsibility for the most part and in Ontario DoFo needs to step up to the plate, here in NS too. Governments are suppose to lead and this is how leadership is done, led by example and use your authority to protect the public's children and not to fuck over their teachers. Failure to protect the vulnerable children in a society is a failure of leadership in a big way, when easy simple solutions are at hand. We have an abundance of good masks thanks to covid and they are much more effective against flu and RSV along with hand washing than against covid. The absence of a flu season and crash in respirtory illnesses during the pandemic proved that masks work for these diseases. Many of the kids dying are too young to be vaccinated and need society to protect them.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you lie...there is no such thing as bad poutine.
well...ok, maybe there is, but i love that shit. when i was a kid we'd go to Canada to get beer when we were 18, and would stop in the same little border town on the way home and get poutine, it was so good, but being a drunk, high 18 year old probably made it better.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
gonna play devil’s advocate here
how so?
Vaccine mandate, comply briefly 2x/annum
Mask mandate, comply daily for hours
DIY-HP-LED
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Save kids' lives...
There are compelling reasons, none which have to do with personal protection. It's a community disease management strategy to slow it down so that hospitals are not overwhelmed with sick kids so each one can be given the care they deserve, and the staff isn't completely burned out and fucked over. Nothing cleans out emergency room staff with burn out like large numbers of dying toddlers. It is also temporary in nature with defined goals and demonstrated effectiveness.
CunningCanuk
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I meant less intrusive in that injection is more intrusive than covering your face.
CANON_Grow
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The problem with a mask mandate for RSV and influenza is they have always been seasonal, not new and unknown. The people that study this stuff are openly discussing how mask mandates and previous lock-downs may have caused an immunity gap that we are seeing play out now. Less of an issue for influenza with the help of vaccines, but there is nothing to stop RSV. Does a mask mandate today set us up for a bigger issue and more severe illness next season? I'm not against a mask mandate, but the experts better be sure they aren't setting us up for much worse in the future.
What I would really love to see is the medical community clearly define what they need to function at a non-critical level. Not just requests for more funding but what is actually needed. If actual solutions were presented to the public, both governments would be forced to deal with it. Better than the finger pointing going on now.
DIY-HP-LED
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Well right now we need to reduce the numbers of kids in the hospital and deal with epidemiological issues later. I'm aware of the issue and it will be dealt with by future public policy, but for right now, masks are the way to go to slow it down temporarily, the situation in hospitals nationwide is dire.
printer
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Part of the reason more kids are in hospital. I am worried about my pain meds, not sure how long I would last without them.
Drug shortages worsen across Canada, extend beyond kids' pain and fever meds
Drugstore shortages in Canada are now extending beyond the children's pain and fever medication aisle into other over-the-counter and prescription drugs as supply problems worsen across the country.
Hundreds of medications are either running low or out of stock completely, with some store shelves depleted of children's allergy medication, adult cough and cold syrup, eye drops and even some oral antibiotics, industry experts say.
The situation is leaving pharmacists scrambling to find alternatives while many Canadians end up at drop-in health clinics or waiting hours in emergency rooms for ailments they would normally treat at home.
"It continues to get worse," Pam Kennedy, pharmacist and owner of the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy on Nova Scotia's South Shore, said in an interview on Tuesday.
"The pharmacy teams are working hard to try to find other options for patients but that's becoming increasingly difficult."
Nearly a third of prescription drugs are now on back order, she said.
Some drug brands have indicated the shortage is expected to extend into early 2023, Kennedy added."I don't think there's been a liquid Buckley's available for months," she said of a popular cough syrup brand. "The cough and colds shortage has been problematic."
Drug shortages in Canada started as early as last spring. But the supply crunch was exacerbated in recent months by soaring demand amid the spread of influenza, RSV and COVID-19. Lingering pandemic supply chain snags have also contributed to the problem.
Health Canada officials were lambasted during a House of Commons health committee on Tuesday for not handling the situation more quickly or effectively. "The last time I've seen these products on the shelves in my community was May," Fort McMurray-Cold Lake MP Laila Goodridge told the committee, referring to pediatric pain medication.
"That's terrifying for a community that's five hours from a children's hospital."
As many as 800 drugs are currently in short supply in Canada, Linsey Hollett, the director of health product compliance for Health Canada, told the committee. Among those, 23 are considered critical -- meaning the shortage poses a significant risk to patients and the health-care system, she said.
To bolster supplies, Health Canada has arranged to import doses from the United States and Australia.
In the meantime, drugstores like the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy have had to place limits on the number of children's Tylenol, Advil or Motrin containers customers can purchase, Kennedy said."I've seen grannies coming in and if they happen to be able to find a bottle, they're sending it to their children in Alberta to help out their grandchildren," she said.
Canadians close to the border are also travelling to the United States to purchase medications, many of which are fully stocked. "In New Brunswick people are going across to the border into the U.S. and bringing it back over to Canada," Kennedy said. Meanwhile, supply shortages are also having a knock-on effect throughout the supply chain as alternatives used to substitute for key drugs are now also running low. For example, powders used for compounding medicines like acetaminophen or ibuprofen are now in short supply, she said.
www.ctvnews.ca
Drug shortages worsen across Canada, extend beyond kids' pain and fever meds
Drugstore shortages in Canada are now extending beyond the children's pain and fever medication aisle into other over-the-counter and prescription drugs as supply problems worsen across the country.
Hundreds of medications are either running low or out of stock completely, with some store shelves depleted of children's allergy medication, adult cough and cold syrup, eye drops and even some oral antibiotics, industry experts say.
The situation is leaving pharmacists scrambling to find alternatives while many Canadians end up at drop-in health clinics or waiting hours in emergency rooms for ailments they would normally treat at home.
"It continues to get worse," Pam Kennedy, pharmacist and owner of the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy on Nova Scotia's South Shore, said in an interview on Tuesday.
"The pharmacy teams are working hard to try to find other options for patients but that's becoming increasingly difficult."
Nearly a third of prescription drugs are now on back order, she said.
Some drug brands have indicated the shortage is expected to extend into early 2023, Kennedy added."I don't think there's been a liquid Buckley's available for months," she said of a popular cough syrup brand. "The cough and colds shortage has been problematic."
Drug shortages in Canada started as early as last spring. But the supply crunch was exacerbated in recent months by soaring demand amid the spread of influenza, RSV and COVID-19. Lingering pandemic supply chain snags have also contributed to the problem.
Health Canada officials were lambasted during a House of Commons health committee on Tuesday for not handling the situation more quickly or effectively. "The last time I've seen these products on the shelves in my community was May," Fort McMurray-Cold Lake MP Laila Goodridge told the committee, referring to pediatric pain medication.
"That's terrifying for a community that's five hours from a children's hospital."
As many as 800 drugs are currently in short supply in Canada, Linsey Hollett, the director of health product compliance for Health Canada, told the committee. Among those, 23 are considered critical -- meaning the shortage poses a significant risk to patients and the health-care system, she said.
To bolster supplies, Health Canada has arranged to import doses from the United States and Australia.
In the meantime, drugstores like the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy have had to place limits on the number of children's Tylenol, Advil or Motrin containers customers can purchase, Kennedy said."I've seen grannies coming in and if they happen to be able to find a bottle, they're sending it to their children in Alberta to help out their grandchildren," she said.
Canadians close to the border are also travelling to the United States to purchase medications, many of which are fully stocked. "In New Brunswick people are going across to the border into the U.S. and bringing it back over to Canada," Kennedy said. Meanwhile, supply shortages are also having a knock-on effect throughout the supply chain as alternatives used to substitute for key drugs are now also running low. For example, powders used for compounding medicines like acetaminophen or ibuprofen are now in short supply, she said.
Drug shortages worsen across Canada, extend beyond kids' pain and fever meds
Drugstore shortages in Canada are now extending beyond children's pain and fever medication into other over-the-counter and prescription drugs as supply problems worsen across the country.
DIY-HP-LED
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Why?Part of the reason more kids are in hospital. I am worried about my pain meds, not sure how long I would last without them.
Drug shortages worsen across Canada, extend beyond kids' pain and fever meds
Drugstore shortages in Canada are now extending beyond the children's pain and fever medication aisle into other over-the-counter and prescription drugs as supply problems worsen across the country.
Hundreds of medications are either running low or out of stock completely, with some store shelves depleted of children's allergy medication, adult cough and cold syrup, eye drops and even some oral antibiotics, industry experts say.
The situation is leaving pharmacists scrambling to find alternatives while many Canadians end up at drop-in health clinics or waiting hours in emergency rooms for ailments they would normally treat at home.
"It continues to get worse," Pam Kennedy, pharmacist and owner of the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy on Nova Scotia's South Shore, said in an interview on Tuesday.
"The pharmacy teams are working hard to try to find other options for patients but that's becoming increasingly difficult."
Nearly a third of prescription drugs are now on back order, she said.
Some drug brands have indicated the shortage is expected to extend into early 2023, Kennedy added."I don't think there's been a liquid Buckley's available for months," she said of a popular cough syrup brand. "The cough and colds shortage has been problematic."
Drug shortages in Canada started as early as last spring. But the supply crunch was exacerbated in recent months by soaring demand amid the spread of influenza, RSV and COVID-19. Lingering pandemic supply chain snags have also contributed to the problem.
Health Canada officials were lambasted during a House of Commons health committee on Tuesday for not handling the situation more quickly or effectively. "The last time I've seen these products on the shelves in my community was May," Fort McMurray-Cold Lake MP Laila Goodridge told the committee, referring to pediatric pain medication.
"That's terrifying for a community that's five hours from a children's hospital."
As many as 800 drugs are currently in short supply in Canada, Linsey Hollett, the director of health product compliance for Health Canada, told the committee. Among those, 23 are considered critical -- meaning the shortage poses a significant risk to patients and the health-care system, she said.
To bolster supplies, Health Canada has arranged to import doses from the United States and Australia.
In the meantime, drugstores like the Bridgewater Guardian Pharmacy have had to place limits on the number of children's Tylenol, Advil or Motrin containers customers can purchase, Kennedy said."I've seen grannies coming in and if they happen to be able to find a bottle, they're sending it to their children in Alberta to help out their grandchildren," she said.
Canadians close to the border are also travelling to the United States to purchase medications, many of which are fully stocked. "In New Brunswick people are going across to the border into the U.S. and bringing it back over to Canada," Kennedy said. Meanwhile, supply shortages are also having a knock-on effect throughout the supply chain as alternatives used to substitute for key drugs are now also running low. For example, powders used for compounding medicines like acetaminophen or ibuprofen are now in short supply, she said.
Drug shortages worsen across Canada, extend beyond kids' pain and fever meds
Drugstore shortages in Canada are now extending beyond children's pain and fever medication into other over-the-counter and prescription drugs as supply problems worsen across the country.
printer
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Covid started it, the ship in the Suez Canal, mucked things up. The world was running in a just-in-time mode for a couple of decades, we just assumed that we would just make a call and stuff would happen. Then the Ukrainian war gave us another hit, then the Chinese went hog wild on lock-downs due to covid. Before covid I used to get work (hospital) emails about drug shortages, that they will sub one drug for another. Things were really tight back then, when the world was operating normally. It does not take much sand to get inbetween the gears.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
It is remarkable how many of the components of the products in a drug store are made in China. Supply chain could be experiencing a failure cascade.
DIY-HP-LED
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We need better policy, just in time was fine when interest rates were really high, but it's more trouble than it's worth when they are reasonable and in these market conditions. The complete lack of governments and particularly the US government's ability to regulate or even tax corporations due to decades of lobbying is showing. It's another symptom of wealth and power concentrating at the very top starting in the 1980s with the republican's dismantling of the new deal and they are still trying to get rid of the remnants like social security.