Herb & Suds
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It’s a brick
Fascism and the Republican Party
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topcat
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Eric?
UncleJesse
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Yes. I do NOT support any of the people who rooted on January 6th, same as I do not support any of the people who rioted during the BLM riots of 2020. Anyone who pulls that crap aught to be jailed, I don't care what side they are on.
Herb & Suds
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Hundreds were held accountable for rioting and some were slaughtered by vigilantes
Now let’s jail the Trump cartel
DIY-HP-LED
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Wait till ya see the look on his face when they hand him the indictment, it will be one of them big concrete construction bricks he will try to grunt out. I think they are looking to give Donald a Christmas present, once Jack looks at what they got on him over the documents case, he will sign the indictment and go to trial ASAP, no point or need to wait for something special to happen. They are cleaning up judge Canon's mess already and it will have no bearing on the case anyway and should be settled by indictment time. Everything I've seen about Jack says he's a giant killer and won't waste time doing Donald over the documents. Once the Kingpin is gone for life, they won't need to cut many deals with is cronies over J6 to nail him, the point will be moot anyway.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you know that at least half, if not more, of the people participating in the "BLM" riots were right wing white militia morons, and that much of the "violence caused by BLM" was actually caused by them and blamed on BLM...
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/proud-boys-oath-keepers-antifa-portland-violence-spreading-1224762/
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2020/09/fed-intelligence-sent-to-oregon-and-portland-indicates-right-wing-extremists-pose-biggest-lethal-threat.html
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748
but i'm sure there were some very fine people on both sides....
topcat
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Vandalism and arson do not equate to the attempted overthrow of our democratic (okay, democratic republic) government.
UncleJesse
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That's not what I saw first hand in Kenoshayou know that at least half, if not more, of the people participating in the "BLM" riots were right wing white militia morons, and that much of the "violence caused by BLM" was actually caused by them and blamed on BLM...
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/proud-boys-oath-keepers-antifa-portland-violence-spreading-1224762/
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2020/09/fed-intelligence-sent-to-oregon-and-portland-indicates-right-wing-extremists-pose-biggest-lethal-threat.html
https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748
but i'm sure there were some very fine people on both sides....
DIY-HP-LED
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How do we know you are credible; you don't even appear to know right from wrong.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
anecdote is unreliable
Fogdog
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False equivalence.
The Jan 6 insurrection was carried out by followers of an authoritarian populist leader to disenfranchise voters who overwhelmingly chose a liberal democratic leader. It was a single event that was organized and planned by a small group of co conspirators. A few thousand participated and a few hundred were there to carry out the attempted coup.
The BLM protests were a series of 2500 uncoordinated and loosely planned protest marches against fascist police and the brutality they visit upon Black people. 20 million people participated and the protest marches were non-violent. Leaders inside the BLM group did not plan or participate in the looting or violence that was rare but sometimes did occur around the protest marches. Most of the violence seen during the protests were by police on protesters. Out of 20 million who attended the marches, 10,000 were arrested an 150 have either confessed or were convicted of federal crimes committed during the marches.
Basically, Jan 6 attack on the Capitol Building was a violent attempt to take away our freedom while the BLM protests were nonviolent protests advocating for freedom.
I hope my explanation helps you understand why what you just said is incorrect.
Fogdog
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That's right. Those articles pertained to Portland. The AP article pointed out that the people arrested were not part of the BLM political movement.
Kenosha isn't America.
In any case, what went down in Kenosha was looting and arson that had nothing to do with BLM.
You need to read more and talk less.
UncleJesse
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The BLM riots were inexcusable, the January 6th riot was inexcusable. I would jail every person involved.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
“BLM riots” is hard-right propaganda
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The other thing being deliberately obfuscated is that almost all protests associated with BLM were not violent. Almost all the associated violence was caused by white supremacist “militia”. It’s when and how Proud Boys became a household word. Somebody is amplifying supremacist propaganda.
UncleJesse
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If you riot, loot and destroy you should be arrested and put in jail. It makes no difference what political side they lean on, nor this is worse than that, etc. If we can't at least agree on that in America then I don't know what's next
hanimmal
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That is the rub, you are saying that the 'BLM' protests, or the rioters that used them as a backdrop, are a 'political' side. They are not. And the only reason that it might seem that way is the right wing propaganda spamming these lies with cherry picked facts.
January 6th, the day that Trump had his cult attack our capital while our congress was in session was an attempted insurrection. Which very much was for a political side to maintain power over the will of American voters.
Very very different things.
But sure, anyone rioting should be jailed, it is a bullshit statement to think anyone is disputing that.
Roger A. Shrubber
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that's what everyone else saw, i'm not sure what you were looking at.
a lot of independent accounts corroborate each other...nearly all of the violence and property damage was started by white men, who didn't live in the area...MANY of those arrested were white men, who did not live in the area.
white men who just happened to be wandering by at the time? hundreds of whom spontaneously decided to take a road trip to Portland on the same day?...
Roger A. Shrubber
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no...this IS worse than that...antifa and blm were guilty of little to no violence...that wasn't their goal, it never has been. 90+ % of the violence was committed by white supremacist groups that traveled there specifically for the purpose. there is a very large difference, open your eyes and see it.