Can't extend drying past 7 days.

growglencoco

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I have my first 2 grows/harvests under my belt and I feel like I'm starting to get it down. However, no matter what I do I can not extend the drying period longer than 7 days. I have a small spare bedroom (around 10x10) set up with a humidifier/dehumidifier on a controller, and a portable AC unit. I am able to keep temps and humidity on average 60/60 with some fluctuations. I hang the whole plant if possible, sometimes splitting it into 2 large sections if needed, and trim off around half the fans. My last harvest was staggered so I got to hang 3 different strains at different times:

1. Smallest plant, was able to hang whole. Trimmed on day 6 and RH hit 62-64 in jars.
2. Largest plant, had to split into 2 and started trimming on day 5 finishing on day 6. Maybe could of gone slightly longer but still hit jars never really going over 65RH.
3. 4x4 scrog, 2 plants, both cut in half for 4 large sections. I tried to let this go longer and trimmed on days 7-9. The later days came out very dry and had I to re hydrate half of it.

I might not be growing the biggest buds which could be part of it, but most of the videos I watch and posts I read have people cutting down small branches or even wet trimming and still hanging for 10-14 days. So something doesn't seem right here. The only thing I can think of is I might have too much airflow from the portable AC being in a small room. I did hang some sheets up to block airflow to the plants for the last harvest. Doesn't seem like it helped and I don't want to go too extreme with this.

Any advice or anything else you guys recommend I try? Maybe try to sweat the buds for a few days or give tent drying a try? Should I just roll with my 6-7 day method?
 

chuckeye

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A hygrometer is your friend.

I like to see the buds hit cure time @ ~70%, no higher.

On day 5 take a few branches and put them in a tote overnight. If it reads under 70 the next morning, cut the buds off the branches.

Right now my humidity is really low so I was at 5 days of hang time and 68% in totes.

Then I like to take at least three weeks to burp down to 60% and vacuum seal in 1L mason jars.

More info here.

Cheers
 

growglencoco

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I'd want those RH numbers lower, like 62 being the highest.
That's what I'm shooting for and think I'm getting pretty good at timing it. Just happens to be that time is between day 5-7 for me. Should also mention I'm using a moisture meter as a backup to just going by feel. Seems to work pretty well at giving me some data to where I'm at in the dry.

Maybe your buds are less dense. Show a picture of say 10 grams so we can get an idea of density.
Will work on uploading a couple pics.

I try and wait to like day eight or nine if I jar them up sooner I notice moisture after a few days or the jar humidity will rise even though the weed seemed dry when it went in it truly wasn’t.
This is what I'm hoping for, but like I said when I went into day 7-8 my stuff was way too try. Like buds crumble under pressure, 50-55% in jars. I had to add boveda 62s and even added a fan leaf to a few jars. This only brought it back up to 58 and it took a few days.
 

growglencoco

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A hygrometer is your friend.

I like to see the buds hit cure time @ ~70%, no higher.

On day 5 take a few branches and put them in a tote overnight. If it reads under 70 the next morning, cut the buds off the branches.

Right now my humidity is really low so I was at 5 days of hang time and 68% in totes.

Then I like to take at least three weeks to burp down to 60% and vacuum seal in 1L mason jars.

More info here.

Cheers
Funny, I've read every article and forum post that I can find and even watched a bunch of videos. I know I've read that post before and am starting to lean towards this being the way for me. It is also why I mentioned sweating the buds, which a lot of older posts seem to recommend you do in paper bags. And I also love all 20 of my hygrometers.

On my last harvest I posted about, I took a nice size branch off on day 5 and trimmed it down. I burped this down from 70% to 62 over a week or 2 and it turned out pretty good. I still don't understand how people are hang drying small branches for 10-14 days and not ending up with powder. But I guess as long as my system works I will just stick with it.
 

chuckeye

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On my last harvest I posted about, I took a nice size branch off on day 5 and trimmed it down. I burped this down from 70% to 62 over a week or 2 and it turned out pretty good. I still don't understand how people are hang drying small branches for 10-14 days and not ending up with powder. But I guess as long as my system works I will just stick with it.
If you can maintain 60% humidity and 60 degrees you can prolong the hang time. Also leaving the fan leaves on helps...

But "The magic" happens in the slow cure from 70 to 62ish %. If you miss that window the cure is over.

I don't really care how long I hang as long as I can get the buds into totes at just under 70%.

Anything over that is chancing mold...

Cheers
 

growglencoco

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If you can maintain 60% humidity and 60 degrees you can prolong the hang time. Also leaving the fan leaves on helps...

But "The magic" happens in the slow cure from 70 to 62ish %. If you miss that window the cure is over.
Cheers
I feel like I am but maybe those fluctuations hurt a lot more than I realize. I have forgot to fill my humidifier once or twice and dropped below 50RH but it was only a short period of time.
 

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growglencoco

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Looks great. What are the reasons for wanting to extend dry time?
Thanks! Not like the final product is bad, I'm very happy with the look and potency. I'm hoping to really bring out the flavor and smell as much as I can. My over dried stuff still has a hey smell after 2 weeks. Also like I mention below, it would be nice to start trimming whenever I have the free time. I'm harvesting a 4x8 and working by myself most of the time.

You bud isn't going to dry more than the drying room's RH, right? If you have AC and a humidifier than there's no reason you shouldn't be able to let them hang as long as you want.
That's what my research has led me to believe but it doesn't seem to be true for me. I feel like there must be some issue in my dry room/process stopping this from happening. I would love if I could do this. My job can have me working 35-40 hours in 3 days. If my stuff is ready for trim in the middle of this, I'm screwed. That's what happened with my last harvest.

Could letting the RH drop to 50-55% for a few hours dry it out that fast? If all these things are dialed in maybe it is still an issue of too much airflow. I might try putting part of my next harvest in a closet in the room. I've considered buying a 2nd tent for drying also.
 
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dankydank1973

Active Member
A few things I've noticed in my own experience.

Dry in a smaller area. More bud to air ratio. Pack a tent. This in most cases will eliminate the need for a humidifier as well, another plus.

Run less fans. One tiny guy moving air at the bottom of the tent on low is sufficient. Air should not be blowing on the flower. Just enough to not be stagnant.

Cold is your friend and will slow the process.

Trim only fan leaves before drying. No sugar material should be removed.

Fwiw these things helped me tremendously. Perhaps they could help you too.
 

lusidghost

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A few things I've noticed in my own experience.

Dry in a smaller area. More bud to air ratio. Pack a tent. This in most cases will eliminate the need for a humidifier as well, another plus.

Run less fans. One tiny guy moving air at the bottom of the tent on low is sufficient. Air should not be blowing on the flower. Just enough to not be stagnant.

Cold is your friend and will slow the process.

Trim only fan leaves before drying. No sugar material should be removed.

Fwiw these things helped me tremendously. Perhaps they could help you too.
I agree with all of this except for the sugar leaf comment. All leaves dry super fast and aren't going to slow down drying, aside from adding some additional moisture into the air.
 

dbz

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I agree although I notice if I have a small fan running constantly they somehow get drier then the environment. I put small fan on a timer and this helped slow things down.
Imo the fan is likely exposing the uneven nature of the environment in that the air is not well circulated and you may only be humdiifying a small area as opposed to the whole area. You make sure your humidity sensor is
A) calibrated
B) not near any mist being put out
C) same with temp sensor and heat ot cooling apparatus
In a 12x6 I dry with the ac and humidifiers and dehu and heater pointed the opposite way of the bud fan pointed at floor and one above the plants none at the plants at all and the sensors on the other sides of the room or middle to the equipment. You have to maintain good air circulation to ensure the whole area is the humidity and temperature desired. If you are really at 60 temp 60 rh everywhere then your buds wouldn't be drying below 55 etc.
 
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