Nope_49595933949
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No thanks, let us know how it goes.
Yesterday's Mass Shooting.
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Not gonna. Owning and operating something full-auto does not appeal to me. In case of zombie apocalypse I’ll just put on a maga baseball cap to indicate no food here.
Nope_49595933949
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Oh. Ok.
I don't think there will be actual zombies, so you don't have to wear the stupid sign on your head.
Roger A. Shrubber
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why do sleazebag awful people seem to take delight in the minutiae of horrible events? a disturbed individual killed several people, and we have to be counting coup over trivia....it's a sick sad world
DIY-HP-LED
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You can, but they are regulated and licensed, proving the government has the authority to do it. It's never been challenged but someone might stuff the term arms down the conservative justice's throats by bringing the right case. The original intention of the founders is important for those who think of the constitution as a dead document. The 2nd was for military purposes, and it said arms not guns, and arms mean cannon, bombs, rockets and grenades, Americans were meant to be armed to the fucking teeth.
Its necessary, cause" they is takin over and ya gotta be prepared"!Good luck living in land mine land, we clear them up here so less folks get blown up and lose limbs. After all we got big guberment and they don't like paying hospital bills for gunshot victims. Besides the public is all for it and in a real democracy that usually decides it, since we don't give votes to geography or gerrymander democracy right out of our country. Nor do we have political courts, they follow the law and constitution, a modern one, not a rough copy of the British government structure as it existed in 1765. Parliamentary government evolved everywhere, but in America it was frozen in time by a written constitution. The president replaced the King with all his powers at the time, the house the parliament and the senate the house of Lords. America already had legislative assemblies for over a hundred years, they are who revolted Jury trials by independent courts are another thing inherited and so was the legal system and all the lawyers who were involved.
Nope_49595933949
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Great, I was just pointing out your misinformation about the ability to own what are considered NFA firearms or destructive devices.You can, but they are regulated and licensed, proving the government has the authority to do it. It's never been challenged but someone might stuff the term arms down the conservative justice's throats by bringing the right case. The original intention of the founders is important for those who think of the constitution as a dead document. The 2nd was for military purposes, and it said arms not guns, and arms mean cannon, bombs, rockets and grenades, Americans were meant to be armed to the fucking teeth.
Good luck living in land mine land, we clear them up here so less folks get blown up and lose limbs. After all we got big guberment and they don't like paying hospital bills for gunshot victims. Besides the public is all for it and in a real democracy that usually decides it, since we don't give votes to geography or gerrymander democracy right out of our country. Nor do we have political courts, they follow the law and constitution, a modern one, not a rough copy of the British government structure as it existed in 1765. Parliamentary government evolved everywhere else, but in America it was frozen in time by a written constitution. The president replaced the King with all his powers at the time, the house the parliament and the senate the house of Lords. America already had legislative assemblies for over a hundred years, they are who revolted Jury trials by independent courts are another thing inherited and so was the legal system and all the lawyers who were involved.
xtsho
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At home yes. In public not for a mass shooter.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
State laws matter. Nevada and Idaho are not like Hawai’i or Massachusetts.
DIY-HP-LED
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Sorry for the rant, but it just looks so fucking stupid and tragic from the outside. At least for those who care.
Nope_49595933949
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Great, federally they are legal and in a large majority of states they are also legal(45). By all means keep trying to use the exceptions or the far ends of the bell curve to make whatever point you're trying to make.
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Nope_49595933949
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That's fine, at least have the facts correct.
Fogdog
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Nobody is talking about banning handguns ("plane old" -- not a good look, rube). That "banning" bullshit is for hysterical gun lovers to say to each other while they stroke their barrels.
Regarding what is best, now that the headlines are screaming about all that violence out there. Actually, you are safer when you don't own a gun. Not even talking about suicide, I'm talking about the extremely rare event where a gun owner successfully defended their self from a nutcase compared to the much higher rates of accidents and times where that gun is used on their own family. Simply playing the odds, you are safer if you don't have a gun. Only cowards put other people at risk due to their own unreasonable fear.
I don't expect my post to change your mind about this, it's more of a rant. However, if you do care about making the community safer, consider working to get better background checks, a permit to purchase and periodic safety classes in place to cut down the number of deaths and maimings from guns. And you are correct, hand guns are the weapons of choice for amateur murderers.
Oregon just passed into law some new regulations that you might want to consider. I'm proud to say that a coalition of Oregon gun owners and people who don't own a gun managed to get it done this year.
Oregon voters approve permit-to-purchase for guns and ban high-capacity magazines
The measure requires an ownership fee, a safety course, fingerprinting, and a background check in order to obtain a gun permit.
www.npr.org
Fogdog
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"plane old" lulz
DIY-HP-LED
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They were, you can't own a fully automatic weapon without jumping through federal hoops and if it's a .50 cal there are more hoops. The federal government also banned assault rifles for a time too and if ya want a definition of that, it's any long gun with a removable magazine and is not limited to 5 rounds capacity.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Now you are simply trolling. The federal statute is only one component of the legal picture, which fact you keep belittling for some obscure ulterior motive.
xtsho
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No they are not. You can blow someone's head off with something that basically fits in the palm of your hand and carries 16 rounds.
Nope_49595933949
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Your statement was that you can't own them. You can, as you've now stated. You can also own a .50 just like you can own a 22lr, same process. You jump through federal hoops to own just about any firearm that requires and NICS check.
Please educate yourself a little bit.
Nope_49595933949
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They are legal in 45 out of 50 states...
DIY-HP-LED
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Federal can and will be changed, it's just a matter of time and mass shootings. License the operator, register the weapon and insure it, because you will be liable for its misuse. You do it for your car and you need that, you don't need a gun.