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DIY-HP-LED

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The odds were never as bad as many thought. As for those youtube channels. You can be respected and not know what you're talking about.

Once the United States decided to go all in supporting Ukraine it was pretty obvious that Russia was going to have a tougher time than many thought. Combine the advanced weapon systems provided by the US along with the overall military planning and the Ukrainians were in a much better position than it appeared at first glance. There is no doubt that the overall strategy and tactics used all come from the United States. We just don't have active duty military on the ground in Ukraine giving orders. But they're coming from the United States Military. The most lethal military force to ever exist. Our goal is the collapse of Russia. Ukraine is a beneficiary of our long term strategic goals.
Uncle Sam is not alone, he has enthusiastic allies too, though you folks have lots of stored arms in a wide variety. The allies are providing aid to Ukraine on all levels, from treating the wounded to supporting and defending their power grid. Canada sent a half million articles of winter uniform and other equipment, and the Swedes and Fins have large stockpiles of winter gear to equip most of their male populations and are armed to the teeth. The Baltic states and Poland are going all in too and supplying what they can and buying more from Uncle Sam as is Canada and others as well as increasing our own production. Russia had a GDP smaller than Italy's before the war began and the sanctions started, and it's been all downhill from there with decades to recover.

It will be even more so with China invading Tawain, America has a mighty military, but today only controls about 20% of the global economy. Allies increase America's power and reach and the forgien policy has shifted to support liberal democracies and oppose despots and strongmen. That should assure plenty of reliable allies in the future, those governed by the rule of law. Countries have always had interests, but in our interconnected world they also have friends with shared values and public opinion counts for a lot in democratic countries since it can change governments.
 

smokin away

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Ron Paul is a fool.
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Each is entitled to their own opinion.
Just to go over RP's resume which includes being a Doctor of Medicine and a flight surgeon as well serving as Senator to the great State of Texas one might be drawn to his intelligent point of view. How can a fool pay the lease on the office he holds there in Houston where he does the Liberty Report daily.? He does rub the fur the other way but that's his opinion that many Revere.
 

xtsho

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Uncle Sam is not alone, he has enthusiastic allies too, though you folks have lots of stored arms in a wide variety. The allies are providing aid to Ukraine on all levels, from treating the wounded to supporting and defending their power grid. Canada sent a half million articles of winter uniform and other equipment, and the Swedes and Fins have large stockpiles of winter gear to equip most of their male populations and are armed to the teeth. The Baltic states and Poland are going all in too and supplying what they can and buying more from Uncle Sam as is Canada and others as well as increasing our own production. Russia had a GDP smaller than Italy's before the war began and the sanctions started, and it's been all downhill from there with decades to recover.

It will be even more so with China invading Tawain, America has a mighty military, but today only controls about 20% of the global economy. Allies increase America's power and reach and the forgien policy has shifted to support liberal democracies and oppose despots and strongmen. That should assure plenty of reliable allies in the future, those governed by the rule of law. Countries have always had interests, but in our interconnected world they also have friends with shared values and public opinion counts for a lot in democratic countries since it can change governments.
I'm not discounting the contributions from other nations. But the US is running the show as we're the only country that is capable of coordinating an operation like this.

We've been training Ukrainian forces for years in anticipation of Russian aggression. One could make the case that we set a trap and Russia walked right into it. Like it or not the long term goal of the United States is to be number one globally. Russia has no place in our strategic long term goals. If it takes a war in Ukraine to cause the collapse of the Russian Federation then that's a cost that will be paid. The sooner they're gone the sooner the United States can put more focus on China which is in our sites as well.

Russia and China were extremely happy with the isolationist path that trump appeared to be taking the United States on. But news flash. We're Back! And we're coming for you.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Each is entitled to their own opinion.
Just to go over RP's resume which includes being a Doctor of Medicine and a flight surgeon as well serving as Senator to the great State of Texas one might be drawn to his intelligent point of view. How can a fool pay the lease on the office he holds there in Houston where he does the Liberty Report daily.? He does rub the fur the other way but that's his opinion that many Revere.
it is not possible to be intelligent (or at least honest) and libertarian at the same time. Libertarian ideology is a mental illness. Peddling it is a crime against the republic.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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QUOTE="xtsho, post: 17170005, member: 966535"]
Ron Paul is a fool.
Each is entitled to their own opinion.
Just to go over RP's resume which includes being a Doctor of Medicine and a flight surgeon as well serving as Senator to the great State of Texas one might be drawn to his intelligent point of view. How can a fool pay the lease on the office he holds there in Houston where he does the Liberty Report daily.? He does rub the fur the other way but that's his opinion that many Revere.
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Mike Flynn was a general, and a traitor, and Paul looks like one too. He's a libertarian which means he can't think things through, if it is so great, why does no modern country on earth use such an antisocial greed and stupidity driven system? He is an eye doctor who prescribes glasses FFS and perhaps should go back to it.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I'm not discounting the contributions from other nations. But the US is running the show as we're the only country that is capable of coordinating an operation like this.

We've been training Ukrainian forces for years in anticipation of Russian aggression. One could make the case that we set a trap and Russia walked right into it. Like it or not the long term goal of the United States is to be number one globally. Russia has no place in our strategic long term goals. If it takes a war in Ukraine to cause the collapse of the Russian Federation then that's a cost that will be paid. The sooner they're gone the sooner the United States can put more focus on China which is in our sites as well.

Russia and China were extremely happy with the isolationist path that trump appeared to be taking the United States on. But news flash. We're Back! And we're coming for you.
I agree that Joe is leading the charge, but he didn't have to try very hard to get allies this time! However, the role of allies will increase if the cause is just. Foreign policy has shifted, not just in America but in most liberal democracies, strongmen and despots are out and liberal democracy is in, we hang together, or we hang separately, as Ben said. It will be even worse if China were stupid enough to go after Tawain, America would head up more allies. It's kinda echoing history with the axis vs the allies, which became the UN, Russia, China, Iran and North Korea appear to be that new axis, though China is on the fence about joining them in the toilet.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Each is entitled to their own opinion.
Just to go over RP's resume which includes being a Doctor of Medicine and a flight surgeon as well serving as Senator to the great State of Texas one might be drawn to his intelligent point of view. How can a fool pay the lease on the office he holds there in Houston where he does the Liberty Report daily.? He does rub the fur the other way but that's his opinion that many Revere.
Mike Flynn was a general, and a traitor, and Paul looks like one too. He's a libertarian which means he can think things through, if it is so great, why does no modern country on earth use such an antisocial greed and stupidity driven system? He is an eye doctor who prescribes glasses FFS and perhaps should go back to it.
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that's RAND paul, ron's son...very similar animals, i can see the confusion...but two different assholes.
RON was a flight surgeon in the 60s, and an OB-GYN.
and just for the record, Kentucky, where junior serves, does NOT recognize his medical certificate.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Didn't this asshole just lose an election? Still, lots of people voted for this piece of fascist trash, I wonder why? You should too.

You think the GOP can hold together with lunatics like this running around inside the party? Think McCarthy has a snowball's chance in Hell of governing or even becoming speaker, then trying to ride herd on this collection of lunatics and psychos? He isn't in congress, but he is typical of some who are, he is the republican party, or a good chunk of it.

 

printer

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The State Duma deputy predicted the extension of the conflict in Ukraine until 2030.
A solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict will be found by 2030. With such an opinion in a conversation with a URA.RU correspondent, State Duma Deputy for Defense Andrey Gurulev spoke.

“According to my forecasts, stabilization of the situation [in Ukraine] and some kind of solution will be found in 2027-2030,” Gurulev said. According to him, such a lengthy resolution of the conflict is associated with a new world order and world order, as well as with tense military situations in different parts of the world.

Earlier, Russian Army General Vladimir Boldyrev predicted that the special operation in Ukraine would not end in the next six months . The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, believes that the United States plans to drag out the conflict until 2025, People's News of Russia notes . And ex-US officer Scott Ritter spoke with the opinion that Russia could win in Ukraine in the summer of 2023, according to the Federal News Agency

NATO had a hand in UAF attacks on Russian airfields, Gavrilov said
NATO members helped Kyiv attack Russian airfields, Konstantin Gavrilov, head of the Moscow delegation at the talks in Vienna on military security and arms control, told RIA Novosti.

As the diplomat recalled, Russia has repeatedly pointed out that the West, led by the United States, is increasingly drawn into the conflict, becoming its participant.

So he answered the question about the existence of evidence of NATO's involvement in the attack.

"Now, once again, the facts indicate that the member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance really had a hand in Kyiv's terrorist provocations against the Russian strategic airfields of Diaghilevo and Engels," Gavrilov said.

He recalled the words of the Latvian Foreign Minister on November 30 in the NATO Council, who said that "possible Ukrainian strikes on military targets deep in Russia would be justified."

He also said that US representatives participated in the technical preparations for the attack.

“During 2022, work was carried out at the Kharkiv Aviation Plant to modernize the aforementioned UAVs with the participation of specialists from the Kiev design bureau Luch and the American corporation Raytheon Technologies. The range of this drone is up to 1,000 kilometers,” the head of the delegation said.

Gavrilov added that it is clear to Moscow in which direction they planned to use the drone after the modernization. At the same time, as the diplomat emphasized, most of the targets on which the Armed Forces of Ukraine strike are "determined by the Western masters of the Kyiv regime."

Using various space systems for reconnaissance and information support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including for the purpose of opening places deployment, routes of movement and actions of Russian troops," Gavrilov said.

“The aforementioned Tu-141 Strizh UAVs are aimed at the target using the American global GPS satellite system. By the way, the United States and its allies have long been actively using various space systems for reconnaissance and information support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including for the purpose of opening places deployment, routes of movement and actions of Russian troops," Gavrilov said.

He added that now Washington in Ukraine in real combat conditions is working out new methods of using civilian satellite constellations as an element of command of the US Armed Forces. As Gavrilov emphasized, at the same time, NATO representatives "do not care at all" that their actions could jeopardize peaceful space activities and undermine its international legal foundations.

According to the Ministry of Defense, on Monday Kiev tried to attack military airfields in the Saratov and Ryazan regions using Soviet-made UAVs.

The military department clarified that Russian aviation, using air defense systems, shot down Ukrainian drones flying at low altitude. According to the military, during the fall and explosion of fragments of drones at airfields, the skin of the hull of two aircraft was slightly damaged. As a result of the attack, three military technical personnel were killed, four more were injured.

In retaliation, Russia launched a massive strike against the Ukrainian military command system and related defense complex facilities, which disrupted the transfer of troops and foreign weapons by rail to the combat areas. According to the Ministry of Defense, despite the attempts of the Kyiv regime to disrupt the combat work of Russian long-range aviation, it hit all 17 designated targets.

Kiev, through the words of an anonymous "high-ranking Ukrainian official" in The Washington Post, admitted responsibility for attempted attacks on Russian airfields near Saratov , Ryazan and Kursk. The interlocutor of the publication, despite the official silence on the part of the country's authorities, said that "these were Ukrainian drones."

This was the second such unofficial recognition of Kiev through major American media: the day before, The New York Times, citing a "Ukrainian official," wrote that the drones "were launched from the territory of Ukraine."
 

BudmanTX

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Didn't this asshole just lose an election? Still, lots of people voted for this piece of fascist trash, I wonder why? You should too.

You think the GOP can hold together with lunatics like this running around inside the party? Think McCarthy has a snowball's chance in Hell of governing or even becoming speaker, then trying to ride herd on this collection of lunatics and psychos? He isn't in congress, but he is typical of some who are, he is the republican party, or a good chunk of it.

yep, arizona sec of state race, and he's crying of course.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The State Duma deputy predicted the extension of the conflict in Ukraine until 2030.
A solution to the Russian-Ukrainian conflict will be found by 2030. With such an opinion in a conversation with a URA.RU correspondent, State Duma Deputy for Defense Andrey Gurulev spoke.

“According to my forecasts, stabilization of the situation [in Ukraine] and some kind of solution will be found in 2027-2030,” Gurulev said. According to him, such a lengthy resolution of the conflict is associated with a new world order and world order, as well as with tense military situations in different parts of the world.

Earlier, Russian Army General Vladimir Boldyrev predicted that the special operation in Ukraine would not end in the next six months . The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, believes that the United States plans to drag out the conflict until 2025, People's News of Russia notes . And ex-US officer Scott Ritter spoke with the opinion that Russia could win in Ukraine in the summer of 2023, according to the Federal News Agency

NATO had a hand in UAF attacks on Russian airfields, Gavrilov said
NATO members helped Kyiv attack Russian airfields, Konstantin Gavrilov, head of the Moscow delegation at the talks in Vienna on military security and arms control, told RIA Novosti.

As the diplomat recalled, Russia has repeatedly pointed out that the West, led by the United States, is increasingly drawn into the conflict, becoming its participant.

So he answered the question about the existence of evidence of NATO's involvement in the attack.

"Now, once again, the facts indicate that the member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance really had a hand in Kyiv's terrorist provocations against the Russian strategic airfields of Diaghilevo and Engels," Gavrilov said.

He recalled the words of the Latvian Foreign Minister on November 30 in the NATO Council, who said that "possible Ukrainian strikes on military targets deep in Russia would be justified."

He also said that US representatives participated in the technical preparations for the attack.

“During 2022, work was carried out at the Kharkiv Aviation Plant to modernize the aforementioned UAVs with the participation of specialists from the Kiev design bureau Luch and the American corporation Raytheon Technologies. The range of this drone is up to 1,000 kilometers,” the head of the delegation said.

Gavrilov added that it is clear to Moscow in which direction they planned to use the drone after the modernization. At the same time, as the diplomat emphasized, most of the targets on which the Armed Forces of Ukraine strike are "determined by the Western masters of the Kyiv regime."

Using various space systems for reconnaissance and information support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including for the purpose of opening places deployment, routes of movement and actions of Russian troops," Gavrilov said.

“The aforementioned Tu-141 Strizh UAVs are aimed at the target using the American global GPS satellite system. By the way, the United States and its allies have long been actively using various space systems for reconnaissance and information support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, including for the purpose of opening places deployment, routes of movement and actions of Russian troops," Gavrilov said.

He added that now Washington in Ukraine in real combat conditions is working out new methods of using civilian satellite constellations as an element of command of the US Armed Forces. As Gavrilov emphasized, at the same time, NATO representatives "do not care at all" that their actions could jeopardize peaceful space activities and undermine its international legal foundations.

According to the Ministry of Defense, on Monday Kiev tried to attack military airfields in the Saratov and Ryazan regions using Soviet-made UAVs.

The military department clarified that Russian aviation, using air defense systems, shot down Ukrainian drones flying at low altitude. According to the military, during the fall and explosion of fragments of drones at airfields, the skin of the hull of two aircraft was slightly damaged. As a result of the attack, three military technical personnel were killed, four more were injured.

In retaliation, Russia launched a massive strike against the Ukrainian military command system and related defense complex facilities, which disrupted the transfer of troops and foreign weapons by rail to the combat areas. According to the Ministry of Defense, despite the attempts of the Kyiv regime to disrupt the combat work of Russian long-range aviation, it hit all 17 designated targets.

Kiev, through the words of an anonymous "high-ranking Ukrainian official" in The Washington Post, admitted responsibility for attempted attacks on Russian airfields near Saratov , Ryazan and Kursk. The interlocutor of the publication, despite the official silence on the part of the country's authorities, said that "these were Ukrainian drones."

This was the second such unofficial recognition of Kiev through major American media: the day before, The New York Times, citing a "Ukrainian official," wrote that the drones "were launched from the territory of Ukraine."
I doubt they will last until the summer of 2023 in Ukraine and after that I'm not sure how long Vlad will last, if he's not gone before then. Until then, this desperate Trumpian alternate reality and more threats about nukes. This is why Uncle Sam and the EU want to keep arm's length with the arms given to Ukraine. Ukraine can produce their own long range suicide drones, especially when partnered with Poland, it is not a difficult technology to master if you are not under sanctions and nobody seems to mind parts, just complete systems with a made in XXXX on them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This war has helped Zelenskiy's cause and is cleaning up corruption in Ukraine, oligarchs were a big part of that corruption, though a few supported Ukraine and have for a long time. It's one of the reasons Zelenskiy nationalized the broadcasting temporarily, it was owned by Oligarchs who used it to spread disinformation and social division, they don't want to pay taxes either and some were loyal to Putin or just to themselves.

Clean up at the top flows downward to the bottom and intolerance for corruption will be one of the results of this war and a lingering effect of the national effort and social cohesion created by a shared historic experience. Cleaning up corruption does not start at the bottom it must start at the top of society and the underlings ape the behavior of their superiors, both good and bad.

 
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