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farmerfischer

farmerfischer

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1212ham said:
So simple a cave man can do it.

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Yeah wiring up the plug is easy.. the issue is what is causing this to melt..? Wrong gage wire? The plug its self? Or something else.?

Are you a home owner? Do you have childern? The safty of my loved ones and property are not worth risking because of a grow light..

this company gives away alot of lights,, seems like they shouldnt lose to much replacing the light for O.P.
The fact they are refusing even if its just over a year old speaks volumes to me about this company..
Of course i dont know what the dialog was like between this company and O.P. i mean if harsh words were exchanged they may of just said fuck off .. lol..
 
xtsho

xtsho

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thumper60 said:
After seeing this i got on a ladder an checked the temps on the connectors on my Gavita cool as a cucumber. The growers choice 720 i have is hardwired.
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I don't blame you. I checked all my stuff as well. None of my equipment uses connectors like that. The components to an HID light system are pretty solid. They don't have the potential failure points like you have with LEDs. A cable runs from the ballast to the light socket.
 
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lok777

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bk78 said:
Pretty well stated in the warranty of it’s a “you fix it” after the first year no?

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My issue is that replacing the connection in no way guarantees the light is fixed. They did not even want to inspect the light and said they had fixed other melted connectors for customers this way, telling me there is an ongoing problem with these things melting. And the company's response is to replace it with another faulty connector and hope a fire does not happen, again. Who knows how many house fires these things have caused.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Sounds kinda like you're contradicting yourself? I agree with your first post. But the second one sounds like you're saying they all are using the same cheap quality connectors. I've seen so many threads with these burned up Mars connectors they're obviously using a really cheap one or not soldering it right or something. Seems odd I haven't seen anyone else with these burnt up connectors.

xtsho said:
Which connectors? The cheap ones? None. What does that have to do with anything? M23 connectors are just a specific type and are made by different manufacturers. Some are better quality than others. I can't tell what brand the one that burned up is but it's definitely not an AMP connector. I can't see what brand that particular connector is but it sure as hell shouldn't burn up like that.

I used to work for AMP on the assembly floor. They're one of the biggest connector manufacturers in the world. I've worked with connectors of all types. From actually assembling to terminating cabling to them so I know a little something about connectors.
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All these companies competing with each other and all trying to bring products at a price that is competitive. They all have to cut costs to stay profitable. Cutting cost leads to lower standards with components. Many people don't realize that these consumer grow lights are a niche market. There is so much competition these days that using a MIL-spec AMP connector is not a viable option cost wise so they source lower priced components and the lower cost comes with lower quality which is responsible for the failures that people are experiencing.

It's not just a Mars Hydro issue. They don't make the connectors and other companies are using connectors that are no better in quality. It's how a company deals with these issues if/when they arise that matters. Some handle it better than others.
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1212ham

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Star Dog said:
Does that mean there's more current pulled than the gauge of conductor can handle and creating resistance?
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Wire has resistance, smaller or longer has more. Current flowing through that resistance produces heat, increasing the current or resistance makes more heat.

In addition, heat increases the wires resistance and more resistance makes more heat which increases the resistance and more resistance makes more heat which increases the resistance which makes more heat which.....

A poor connection has high resistance and that can make serious heat.
 
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pahpah-cee

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They’re screw terminals. Even with my HLG’s I’ve found a screw or two that I tightened up.

OP your best best here is to ask kindly for a replacement ballast and connector. If you have a multimeter we can check the ballast. I agree with everyone saying it’s probably a loose terminal screw. Over time it got worse until it eventually failed.
 
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1212ham

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lok777 said:
My issue is that replacing the connection in no way guarantees the light is fixed. They did not even want to inspect the light and said they had fixed other melted connectors for customers this way, telling me there is an ongoing problem with these things melting. And the company's response is to replace it with another faulty connector and hope a fire does not happen, again. Who knows how many house fires these things have caused.
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It's not known if the problem is assembly error or faulty connectors. Anyway, I gave a you cheap, easy and reliable solution. Two Wagos.

Saying your light caught fire in 12 of mars advertiser threads isn't a solution, but it's one way to hear from sunni. ;-)
 
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1212ham

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Bought one of their cd's decades ago based solely on a review in Audio magazine. Didn't really like it at first, but it soon got it's hooks into me!
Discovered some great bands from those reviews.
 
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