January 6th hearings on Trump's failed insurrection.

hanimmal

hanimmal

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Some people are started to rack up some serious time.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — A Tennessee man who authorities say came to Washington ahead of the Jan. 6, 2021, riot prepared for violence in a car full of weapons and assaulted officers who were trying to defend the Capitol was sentenced Friday to more than five years behind bars.

Ronald Sandlin, 35, of Millington, Tennessee, pleaded guilty in September to conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding and assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers.

Two other men were separately each sentenced Friday to four years in prison Friday for their actions connected to the riot.

Sandlin, who authorities say adhered to the QAnon conspiracy theory, and two other men traveled from Tennessee to the Washington area in a rental car packed with two pistols, two magazines of ammunition, cans of bear mace, gas masks, body armor, several knives and other gear, according to prosecutors.

Two days before the insurrection, Sandlin posted on social media a picture of another man lying on bed holding a gun and wrote: “My fellow patriot ... sleeping ready for the boogaloo Jan 6,” according to court papers. Authorities say “boogaloo” referred to to civil war.

On Jan. 6, prosecutors say Sandlin led the mob’s charge against officers at two points at the Capitol, shoved officers and tried to rip the helmet off of one of them. He shouted at officers: “Your life is not worth it.. you’re going to die, get out of the way,” according to court papers.

Inside the building, Sandlin smoked a marijuana joint in the Rotunda of the Capitol and stole a book from an office, prosecutors say.

Sandlin’s lawyer wrote in court papers that his client “allowed himself to believe in lies and disinformation.” In a letter to the judge, Sandlin apologized to the officers he assaulted and the lawmakers at the Capitol.

“I believe January 6, 2021 was a national tragedy for everyone involved and I hope my judgement will help the healing process moving forward,” he wrote.

Separately on Friday, Nicholas Ochs, 36, the founder of the Hawaii Proud Boys chapter, and Nicholas DeCarlo, 32, a Fort Worth, Texas man who was with Ochs on Jan. 6, were each sentenced to four years in prison for their roles in the riot.

Ochs, a onetime Republican candidate for the Hawaii House of Representatives, and DeCarlo both pleaded guilty in September to obstructing Congress’ certification of the vote.

Ochs and DeCarlo were captured in a widely shared photo giving a thumbs up sign in front of a Capitol door that had been defaced with the words “Murder the Media,” — the name of the social media channel they shared. Authorities say DeCarlo scrawled the words on the door.

They attended the “Stop the Steal” rally near the White House on the morning of Jan. 6 and then marched together to the Capitol.

Video shows them throwing smoke grenades toward a line of police trying to keep the mob from the stage set up for Biden’s inauguration, authorities say. DeCarlo also rummaged through a Capitol police officer’s bag and stole a pair of plastic handcuffs, prosecutors said.

Ochs posted on Twitter a picture of the men smoking cigarettes inside the Capitol, and the caption said: “Hello from the Capital lol,” according to court papers.

Ochs’ attorney, Ed MacMahon, said in court papers that his client, who served in the Marines, “regrets and is deeply embarrassed by his juvenile behavior exhibited at the Capitol.” After the hearing, MacMahon called the punishment a “long prison sentence for somebody that didn’t commit a single act of violence.”

DeCarlo’s lawyer wrote that his client has expressed remorse and “in order to help make amends” voluntarily conducted a lengthy interview with the House committee investigating the attack.

Ochs and DeCarlo are among dozens of members and associates of the Proud Boys who have been charged in the Capitol riot.

The group’s former national chairman, Enrique Tarrio, and other leaders are set to stand trial this month on seditious conspiracy and other serious charges for what authorities allege was a plot to stop the transfer of presidential power from Republican Donald Trump to Democrat Joe Biden.

More than 900 people have been charged in the riot with offenses ranging from misdemeanors for illegally entering the Capitol to seditious conspiracy.

The longest sentence so far has been 10 years in prison for a former New York City police officer who used a metal flagpole to assault an officer at the Capitol.

Last month, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and the leader of the group’s Florida chapter Kelly Meggs were convicted of seditious conspiracyfor their roles in the riot. They are awaiting sentencing.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i don't like her very much, but i respect her and Kinzinger more than all the rest of the party put together. they at least had to balls to say that this shit was wrong, and are trying to make it right, while the rest of the party is busy trying to cover their own asses.
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You don't need to be in lock step or even like the ideology of others, but the larger cause in this case is an attack on America, or the idea of America as a constitutional democracy, it's founding ethos. When the country is attacked patriots fight for it, be they democrats, independents or republicans, in the trenches or at the polls.
 
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Conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding might be a charge brought against some in congress too, those conspiring with the WH and making and taking calls from there on the day.


Why 'Obstructing An Official Proceeding' Is Important To Keep An Eye On

Rachel Maddow explains what is at stake in the legal wrangling over the charge of obstructing an official proceeding for the prosecution of January 6th rioters and potentially even Donald Trump and his aides
 
BudmanTX

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding might be a charge brought against some in congress too, those conspiring with the WH and making and taking calls from there on the day.


Why 'Obstructing An Official Proceeding' Is Important To Keep An Eye On

Rachel Maddow explains what is at stake in the legal wrangling over the charge of obstructing an official proceeding for the prosecution of January 6th rioters and potentially even Donald Trump and his aides
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true, but i also see a conspiracy charge coming too as well
 
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BudmanTX said:
true, but i also see a conspiracy charge coming too as well
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From what I've seen of the public facing evidence and text messages, I'd say Jack has cause to look a lot deeper. With the Kingpin gone early over the documents, the only ones left to sell out will be congress people, that's how Jack gets inside private meetings at the WH.
 
cannabineer

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Looks like October 13 was not the last public hearing after all. There will be one aired Monday December 19, 1pm Eastern/ 10am Pacific, in probable response to the new text-message evidence. They also plan to vote on criminal referrals in the runup to the publication of their report on Wednesday December 21.

Will be wild!
 
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cannabineer said:
Looks like October 13 was not the last public hearing after all. There will be one aired Monday December 19, 1pm Eastern/ 10am Pacific, in probable response to the new text-message evidence. They also plan to vote on criminal referrals in the runup to the publication of their report on Wednesday December 21.

Will be wild!
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Mark only handed over less than half the messages and I dunno about emails, then there are internal memos and such. I think he might be cooperating or will, his lawyer must have told him his only hope was to get in early and rat everybody out he can! It would be the only ethical and viable advice for his client, if he wanted to keep him from dying in prison. He clamed up for a reason and cutting a deal and talking to the DOJ might be the reason they never bothered prosecuting him over the subpoenas.
 
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cannabineer said:
was this posted? In case it wasn’t …

www.politico.com

Jan. 6 panel to vote on urging DOJ to prosecute Trump on at least 3 criminal charges

The report that the select panel is expected to consider Monday afternoon reflects some recommendations from a subcommittee that evaluated potential referrals.
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This is no surprise and those indictments will come a long time after the documents case puts him away and the Georgia trial is done. I'm more interested to see if there will be other referrals, particularly congressional ones for J6. I think they will leave that in Jack's hands though, the text messages they will release are a roadmap to prosecution along with King Rat Mark squealing on as many of them as he can, to get as much time off as he can. Donald is done and there will be no deals for his ass, except for Mark perhaps, congressional asses are the most valuable ones to Jack I'll bet, Merrick too. It makes sense for Mark to get a deal and to desperately want one, SOP for the DOJ is they have to confess ALL of their crimes and any other crimes by others they have knowledge of, and Mark knows of many.
 
hanimmal

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schuylaar said:
I hope they took urine and feces samples for FBI to run DNA. The testing is so sophisticated now, the ol' pc is spitting out images and familial names.
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It is so gross. You have to wonder if it was someone who was just so worked up that they had to take a dump. I know that according to at least a couple books/movies out there burglars will find themselves needing to crap during a break-in. Or were they just actual shit heads that thought they were sending a message.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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i just asked this question in another thread, but it got me to thinking....
are pardons granted by a criminal president to co-conspirators valid?
i know what the RIGHT answer is...but what does the law say?
 
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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i just asked this question in another thread, but it got me to thinking....
are pardons granted by a criminal president to co-conspirators valid?
i know what the RIGHT answer is...but what does the law say?
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No they cannot be. If they were, then Joe could call the conservative justices in have them shot and issue pardons. It would be a suicide pact with Trump!
 
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