Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 45 29.4%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 38 24.8%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 70 45.8%
  • Total voters
    153
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orangejesus

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sunni said:
i dont have a choice i have to buy i have a child i need to get to and from school there is no bus service due to a lack of bus drivers and than i have to pcs cross country in a few months too
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no, I totally understand - public transportation in this country is abysmal - even in many metro areas - and so much of our society/culture seems designed around the idea of everyone having their own car. I would certainly suggest you keep an eye out for any class-action suits against Kia/Hyundai on this issue.
 
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orangejesus

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hanimmal said:
I haven't checked in a couple years to see how A plan discounts with Ford are, but you got me curious.

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by my recollection the A-plan was always the best - and only limited to Ford employees (family? cannot remember); I was very happy to make use of their X-plan pricing a few years ago - though the discount was not as good as the other plans.
 
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orangejesus

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sweetisland2009 said:
simple people stop at headline woes.

You shared the worst case example possible (ford MAP markups which made headlines everywhere) in an attempt to dismiss anyone with the means/interest to do so capitalizing on the anomaly that has been the last 18-24 months. Shopping dealers is easy too
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per KBB, this past October was the sixteenth strain month where new vehicle average transaction prices were higher than MSRP

could be you're shopping for vehicles that are less desirable for other consumers - there will always be outliers and exceptions.
 
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sweetisland2009

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orangejesus said:
per KBB, this past October was the sixteenth strain month where new vehicle average transaction prices were higher than MSRP

could be you're shopping for vehicles that are less desirable for other consumers - there will always be outliers and exceptions.
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Two 2021 Tacomas, a 2022 rav4, and now a 2023 Subaru crosstrek all bought in the last 20 months…..all some of the highest selling most popular vehicles in their class. That’s exactly why I chose them

in my unfriendly state* all I did was call dealerships outside of the big metro areas and ask to speak with the sales manager and up front ask if their dealership was charging market adjusted pricing. If you were able to pay msrp (which I did for the taco and rav) you were still winning. I ordered the Subaru and had to wait four months, but Subaru isn’t allowing dealerships to add MAP only a $75 supply chain hardship fee. So I put a few thousand miles on the taco and traded it in for 3k more than I bought it for. Plus the sales tax transfer benefit applies within the same year.
 
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sunni

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orangejesus said:
no, I totally understand - public transportation in this country is abysmal - even in many metro areas - and so much of our society/culture seems designed around the idea of everyone having their own car. I would certainly suggest you keep an eye out for any class-action suits against Kia/Hyundai on this issue.
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yeah i got into one.
 
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sunni

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sweetisland2009 said:
Two 2021 Tacomas, a 2022 rav4, and now a 2023 Subaru crosstrek all bought in the last 20 months…..all some of the highest selling most popular vehicles in their class. That’s exactly why I chose them

in my unfriendly state* all I did was call dealerships outside of the big metro areas and ask to speak with the sales manager and up front ask if their dealership was charging market adjusted pricing. If you were able to pay msrp (which I did for the taco and rav) you were still winning. I ordered the Subaru and had to wait four months, but Subaru isn’t allowing dealerships to add MAP only a $75 supply chain hardship fee. So I put a few thousand miles on the taco and traded it in for 3k more than I bought it for. Plus the sales tax transfer benefit applies within the same year.
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the main issue here is no one has any new vehicles, i looked all outside the metro area and around the sticks too
everyones reserving everything ands than waiting for it to be done in production.
sounds like you got some great deals sad its not liek that everywhere


I did finally purchase todaythougha 2021 volkswagen golf GTI hatchback so im vroom vrooming now
 
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sweetisland2009

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sunni said:
the main issue here is no one has any new vehicles, i looked all outside the metro area and around the sticks too
everyones reserving everything ands than waiting for it to be done in production.
sounds like you got some great deals sad its not liek that everywhere


I did finally purchase todaythougha 2021 volkswagen golf GTI hatchback so im vroom vrooming now
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Im glad you found the GTI I absolutely love the simple lines and those wheels and just everything about the golf is appealing. Edit: When I was in high school my friend got one of those r32? Golf’s in that beautiful blue - so so nice

I may take for granted living in the area I do but it really only took a 50 mile radius search and a couple weeks each time to score the Toyotas.
 
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orangejesus

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sweetisland2009 said:
Two 2021 Tacomas, a 2022 rav4, and now a 2023 Subaru crosstrek all bought in the last 20 months…..all some of the highest selling most popular vehicles in their class. That’s exactly why I chose them

in my unfriendly state* all I did was call dealerships outside of the big metro areas and ask to speak with the sales manager and up front ask if their dealership was charging market adjusted pricing. If you were able to pay msrp (which I did for the taco and rav) you were still winning. I ordered the Subaru and had to wait four months, but Subaru isn’t allowing dealerships to add MAP only a $75 supply chain hardship fee. So I put a few thousand miles on the taco and traded it in for 3k more than I bought it for. Plus the sales tax transfer benefit applies within the same year.
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ah, understood; to be honest I don't encounter too many folks that fall into the 'anyone with the means/interest to do so' category - you sound significantly more savvy than the average auto buyer (basing this on reviewing loan contracts for many, many years).

curious - were the Tacomas purchased in late 2020/early 2021? at the beginning of the pandemic quite a few dealers - and OEMs/lenders - were desperate to get customers in on the lot... saw many 'no payments for six months!' ads

still, I'm sure you'll agree that being 'able to pay msrp (which I did for the taco and rav) you were still winning' is a somewhat new concept; we purchased a 2020 BMW X3 M40i in January of 2020 and the sales manager took $9k off MSRP before we begin haggling - I doubt that would happen now.
 
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PadawanWarrior

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sunni said:
the main issue here is no one has any new vehicles, i looked all outside the metro area and around the sticks too
everyones reserving everything ands than waiting for it to be done in production.
sounds like you got some great deals sad its not liek that everywhere


I did finally purchase todaythougha 2021 volkswagen golf GTI hatchback so im vroom vrooming now
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Sweet. I'd have to get to GTI version too. I wanna go fast!
 
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South Australia’s remarkable 100 per cent renewables run extends to over 10 days

South Australia has just chalked up what is undoubtedly a world first – a run of more than 10 consecutive days over which the average production of wind and solar accounted for 100 per cent of local demand.

No other gigawatt scale grid in the world has come close to this amount of “variable renewable energy”, or for such a long time.

RenewEconomy reported that South Australia had just enjoyed a seven day run of wind and solar that produced more than 104 per cent of average demand.

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South Australia’s remarkable 100 per cent renewables run extends to over 10 days

South Australia posts a remarkable and world-first run of net 100 per cent wind and solar for more than 10 days, or 249 hours.
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orangejesus

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cannabineer said:
No; it is my impression that they are different body types. I’m wondering where he found the C ultimately deficient relative to the other model.
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understood - definitely different body style, so space could well be a concern; I've never met someone who felt they bought too big of a car...

The 2015 Toyota Prius vs 2015 Toyota Prius C is one of those comparisons that needs a little explaining because by their names alone, you wouldn’t think there is much of a difference. There are a few critical differences though, that could help you determine what model Prius would be best for your lifestyle.

When comparing the two models, the biggest difference is their sizes. The 2015 Toyota Prius C is a hatchback that is meant for city/urban driving and is a bit smaller than the Prius, but it gets slightly better fuel economy in the city. It also is a bit less expensive, but is more basic in terms of standard features.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
orangejesus said:
understood - definitely different body style, so space could well be a concern; I've never met someone who felt they bought too big of a car...

The 2015 Toyota Prius vs 2015 Toyota Prius C is one of those comparisons that needs a little explaining because by their names alone, you wouldn’t think there is much of a difference. There are a few critical differences though, that could help you determine what model Prius would be best for your lifestyle.

When comparing the two models, the biggest difference is their sizes. The 2015 Toyota Prius C is a hatchback that is meant for city/urban driving and is a bit smaller than the Prius, but it gets slightly better fuel economy in the city. It also is a bit less expensive, but is more basic in terms of standard features.
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Yeah, I just did a bit of reading. The two types have very similar fuel use. The bigger one gets you a distinctly bigger motor, more room inside and more available goodies like the adaptive cruise control.
I wonder if I just answered my question.

(add) I like the smallest car that will serve. My current ride is a Fit, and I get fantastic fuel economy. I keep intending to sign up for Fuelly to gloat; Im at the very top of their bell curve. Of course, I drive it as if I were paying for my own fuel, heh.

I am making lustful eyes at an Aptera, if they ever get their poo together. A hundred Wh per mile.
 
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I would really like another prius to be my daily driver if I ever have to start regularly commuting again to areas I can't get to via public transit.

*dramatic turn*

Anywho my xterra needed the fuel pump replaced to pump its 15mpg's, crapped out and left me stranded way up north earlier this week. Ran me 1k to get done, but sure beats having to buy a new car. I prefer older cars you can work on yourself, but I was not at all equipped to drop the gas tank to change it out (and its zero outside so no) and needed it done quickly so meh.

It's weird to me seeing used car prices go up, I was wanting to ditch this thing for something a bit more practical but nope.
 
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