Pandemic 2020

[schuylaar]

so there won’t be like a new variant that surpasses all the vaccines and works like the original covid that killed so many because we had no vaccine. In other words, it would have to be a new pandemic with a new virus other than covid and it can’t be sprung from Covid ? So it’s all under control now.

Unless there's new virus altogether..recent past was SARS and Ebola (which Obama took good care of us during).

 

[PJ Diaz]

So your last quote posted would be from AP? I don't recall you using that source but I could be wrong.

No, it was from Senator Johnson's website, I didn't suggest that it was from a news site. I like the AP because it's fairly unbiased generally speaking.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Sen. Johnson also extended an invitation to the following agencies and drug companies to hear firsthand about the impact of their failed response to COVID-19. All declined to participate.

• Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• Dr. Lawrence A. Tabak, DDS, Ph.D., Acting Director of the National Institutes of Health
• Dr. John R. Raymond Sr., MD, President and CEO of Medical College of Wisconsin
• Dr. Albert Bourla, DVM, Ph.D., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Pfizer
• Dr. U?ur ?ahin, MD, Chief Executive Officer of BioNTech
• Stéphane Bancel, MBA, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna Therapeutics
• Dr. Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH, White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator
• Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President
• Dr. Robert M. Califf, MD, MACC, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Peter Marks, MD, Ph.D., Director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, MD, MPH, MBA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force

Did he send an invite to Trump and Jared too?

How about Mike Pence, they were in charge of pandemic response and they impeded help to the states, denied the situation and interfered with the CDC and other government agencies. Then there was the whole horse wormer and HCQ fiasco, not to mention the bleach and UV light press conference. The politicization of vaccines and masks, there is a long list, including Trump's recorded confession to Woodward of malicious dereliction of duty. Then there is the US death toll which was appalling and shameful compared to other developed countries.

Methinks you have selective recall and an agenda.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

Ummmm, I was wondering about that myself. Now that the world is pretty clean of virus (it's not)..but their vaccines are shit and won't use our mRNA technology..it's been offered..Xi won't take it..and now they let their people with no immunity out?

Right! This is very sad and horrible! The morgues are overflowing , people are dying in the streets . 2 weeks wait for cremation…The Chinese people are now conducting thier own lockdowns on their own terms. This is crazy! We will never know thee true number of deaths over there from covid but it’s got to be astronomical!

 

[PJ Diaz]

Did he send an invite to Trump and Jared too?

How about Mike Pence, they were in charge of pandemic response and they impeded help to the states, denied the situation and interfered with the CDC and other government agencies. Then there was the whole horse wormer and HCQ fiasco, not to mention the bleach and UV light press conference. The politicization of vaccines and masks, there is a long list, including Trump's recorded confession to Woodward of malicious dereliction of duty. Then there is the US death toll which was appalling and shameful compared to other developed countries.

Methinks you have selective recall and an agenda.

None of those people are medical professionals. You are off-base with your reasoning.

 

[schuylaar]

No, it was from Senator Johnson's website, I didn't suggest that it was from a news site. I like the AP because it's fairly unbiased generally speaking.

Which Senator Johnson would that be? Isn't he a Rightie that was involved in the bid to overturn our government and take away free and fair elections? Oh yes he was! YOU just don't know it yet.

 

[PJ Diaz]

So your last quote posted would be from AP? I don't recall you using that source but I could be wrong.

Here's just one example of my using the AP as a news source in the past (use the search feature if you'd like to find more): https://www.rollitup.org/t/mar-a-lago-raided-fbi-warrants.1078495/page-155#post-17062814

 

[PJ Diaz]

Which Senator Johnson would that be? Isn't he a Rightie that was involved in the bid to overturn our government and take away free and fair elections? Oh yes he was! YOU just don't know it yet.

So anything that a "rightie" says should be immediately discredited?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

so there won’t be like a new variant that surpasses all the vaccines and works like the original covid that killed so many because we had no vaccine. In other words, it would have to be a new pandemic with a new virus other than covid and it can’t be sprung from Covid ? So it’s all under control now.

No, just that the covid vaccines should improve dramatically when research is applied, this shit is expensive for governments and a pain in the ass for the medical community. Research indicates several effective solutions are possible by targeting more than the outside of the spike protein, something more fundamental to all variants of corona viruses.

We should be in a lot better shape for the next pandemic than the last, the destructive social and economic effects are pretty apparent. Not saying a monkey can't catch a cold and it spreads to a human or some Chinese person won't get bitten by supper!

 

[PJ Diaz]

Their vaccines suck and many refused them, they also have low vaccination rates among the elderly. Joe and others offered the latest mRNA vaccines, since we now have the production capacity, Xi refused, though I imagine he and his cronies got them. It's gonna be a shit show there as the vulnerable die in droves.

The mRNA vaccines suck too though. I know a lot of people who were jabbed multiple times and still got covid to the same degree as the unvaccinated. In fact, my vaccinated co-workers seemed to have gotten it worse than I did.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

None of those people are medical professionals. You are off-base with your reasoning.

Sen Johnson is pretty selective in his witness list and focus, he is also a traitor who tried to deliver fake electors to Pence on the floor on J6. He seeks to sow disinformation doubt and distrust, smoke and mirrors to hide Trump's crimes and failures. When are you gonna stop believing these assholes who consistently make fools of you. This person has nothing to say to anybody with principles and integrity.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The mRNA vaccines suck too though. I know a lot of people who were jabbed multiple times and still got covid to the same degree as the unvaccinated. In fact, my vaccinated co-workers seemed to have gotten it worse than I did.

They saved millions of lives and still confer immunity, there are studies to back this up and I posted them here. They can also respond to new variants much faster than traditional vaccines. Your personal observations are of no value in this matter since you are highly biased against vaccines and have a considerable emotional and egotistical investment.

 

[cannabineer]

Sen Johnson is pretty selective in his witness list and focus, he is also a traitor who tried to deliver fake electors to Pence on the floor on J6. He seeks to so disinformation doubt and distrust, smoke and mirrors to hide Trump's crimes and failures. When are you gonna stop believing these assholes who consistently make fools of you. This person has nothing to say to anybody with principles and integrity.

Ron Johnson Is a Great White Shark in the Sea of American Crazy

Next on the agenda: the pressing question of whether COVID vaccines are giving people AIDS.

www.esquire.com

 

[PJ Diaz]

others have done so, and effectively. This is the guy who claimed the vax causes Aids, after all.

Opinion | Ron Johnson and the COVID Disinformation Pipeline

False claims continue to rock public health to its core

www.medpagetoday.com

You are playing a word soup here. Show the video and full context.

there...your hour and ten minutes of horseshit...his experts are fucking qtards, his guests are fucking qtards, he's a fucking qtard....
this didn't help your argument at all, and no one is ever going to watch more than 5 minutes of this crap, if they can manage that without feeling nauseated...

Why did you post that video Roger, it has nothing to do with this "AIDS" assertion?

I found the video in question, and in fact Senator Johnson does not claim it to cause AIDS at all; it was Rumble user Todd Callender who asserted that, and Senator Johnson said that he had to "push back" on that to him. He said "it may all be true", but that's hardly an assertion of fact, and if anything it's an attempt to move the conversation away from such assertion.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1521549634170195968

 

[PJ Diaz]

Sen Johnson is pretty selective in his witness list and focus, he is also a traitor who tried to deliver fake electors to Pence on the floor on J6. He seeks to sow disinformation doubt and distrust, smoke and mirrors to hide Trump's crimes and failures. When are you gonna stop believing these assholes who consistently make fools of you. This person has nothing to say to anybody with principles and integrity.

Selective? Who did you want him to invite? He invited all of the following folks, who selectively declined:

• Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• Dr. Lawrence A. Tabak, DDS, Ph.D., Acting Director of the National Institutes of Health
• Dr. John R. Raymond Sr., MD, President and CEO of Medical College of Wisconsin
• Dr. Albert Bourla, DVM, Ph.D., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Pfizer
• Dr. Uğur Şahin, MD, Chief Executive Officer of BioNTech
• Stéphane Bancel, MBA, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna Therapeutics
• Dr. Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH, White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator
• Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President
• Dr. Robert M. Califf, MD, MACC, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Peter Marks, MD, Ph.D., Director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, MD, MPH, MBA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Selective? Who did you want him to invite? He invited all of the following folks, who selectively declined:

• Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
• Dr. Lawrence A. Tabak, DDS, Ph.D., Acting Director of the National Institutes of Health
• Dr. John R. Raymond Sr., MD, President and CEO of Medical College of Wisconsin
• Dr. Albert Bourla, DVM, Ph.D., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Pfizer
• Dr. Uğur Şahin, MD, Chief Executive Officer of BioNTech
• Stéphane Bancel, MBA, Chief Executive Officer of Moderna Therapeutics
• Dr. Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH, White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator
• Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President
• Dr. Robert M. Califf, MD, MACC, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Peter Marks, MD, Ph.D., Director of the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research at the Food and Drug Administration
• Dr. Tom Shimabukuro, MD, MPH, MBA, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force

They declined a fraudulent political circus and refused to participate in a lie with a liar.

 

[PJ Diaz]

They declined a fraudulent political circus and refused to participate in a lie with a liar.

You didn't answer the question as to who you wanted him to invite. Your assertion was that "Sen Johnson is pretty selective in his witness list", and I pointed out that he invited a well rounded list of participants. Apparently you can't actually debate that fact, or any of the facts contained within the round-table discussion itself, and instead resort to ad hominem attacks.

 

[schuylaar]

So anything that a "rightie" says should be immediately discredited?

They did it to themselves; have proven to be untrustworthy, liars and schemers..leaving the party in droves so they can have an (I) after their name for the heinous way that (R) has conducted themselves.

Do you have the current list of those who asked for pardon but not received?- stunning who's on it.

 

[schuylaar]

No, just that the covid vaccines should improve dramatically when research is applied, this shit is expensive for governments and a pain in the ass for the medical community. Research indicates several effective solutions are possible by targeting more than the outside of the spike protein, something more fundamental to all variants of corona viruses.

We should be in a lot better shape for the next pandemic than the last, the destructive social and economic effects are pretty apparent. Not saying a monkey can't catch a cold and it spreads to a human or some Chinese person won't get bitten by supper!

It's feces. I watched a documentary which explained that you don't have to necessarily go to wet market to be infected..typically bat feces that lands on someone's food. Chinese spend time outside eating more than we..they like outside close to nature as part of the culture..dusk brings out bats and just like birds? Tell me you've never been shit on by a bird? I have on my shoulder at least once. I wasn't eating but did have to change my shirt.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

It's feces. I watched a documentary which explained that you don't have to necessarily go to wet market to be infected..typically bat feces that lands on someone's food. Chinese spend time outside eating more than we..they like outside close to nature as part of the culture..dusk brings out bats and just like birds? Tell me you've never been shit on by a bird? I have on my shoulder at least once. I wasn't eating but did have to change my shirt.

Last
Time I got shit on by a bird I was eating. First day on the job eating outside in the cafeteria lounge. It was a sign of things to come.