It's the only solution in which everybody involved saves face in spite of what a difficult to achieve proposal it is,reputations and pride are on the line here,and we don't need to see nuclear armed nations reaction's to suffering a mortal hit to their standing. So ,I have no doubt you've considered this option previously, to anyone reasonably intelligent it's the only option I can see that doesn't involve bloodshed or enslavement of a free people.if you care to look back for it, i suggested a similar relocation plan at one point, and the assholes in this thread had the nerve to offer valid points why it wouldn't work...i don't care to reread it myself, but it exists somewhere in this thread, or the war thread...i don't recall which
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cannabineer
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happy new neenerif you care to look back for it, i suggested a similar relocation plan at one point, and the assholes in this thread had the nerve to offer valid points why it wouldn't work...i don't care to reread it myself, but it exists somewhere in this thread, or the war thread...i don't recall which
Roger A. Shrubber
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have you checked with the Taiwanese if they're willing to give up their home for this plan? the Ukrainians don't seem like they'd be very receptive, and i doubt the Taiwanese would be, either. but necessity is what it is, i suppose, they might change their minds if faced with imminent invasion.
hanimmal
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See: Brexit, Trump, ect. The attack being conducted on democracies across the globe by shitty dictators is very real.
No I haven't and it's certainly not a utopian solution,I try to put myself in their shoes as I do generally w/everything in life,I'm sure it would be a heartbreaking decision for them to ponder. I do know that they aren't down for any reunification proposals,the majority of Taiwanese disdain the CCP,and look no further than their brethren in Hong Kong, how'd that work out?
DIY-HP-LED
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Do repeated covid infections make you stupid? Many in the antivaccer crowd can't afford to lose much before they start drooling and need assistance filling out forms.
Maybe a new slogan might be get vaccinated, not stupid, if each infection brought ya down a notch or two.
Maybe a new slogan might be get vaccinated, not stupid, if each infection brought ya down a notch or two.
COVID-19 Virus Found in the Brain: Autopsies Reveal Startling New Information
An analysis of tissue samples from the autopsies of 44 people who died with COVID-19 shows that SAR-CoV-2 virus spread throughout the body—including into the brain—and that it lingered for almost 8 months. The study was published on December 14 in the journal Nature. Scientists from the National
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DIY-HP-LED
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According to creationist evolution does not occur and a Bible based approach would not recognize any of this. So teaching creationism in schools is not just a dumb idea, it's a deadly one too. Bullshit kills, whether it's about masks, vaccines or horse de wormer.
I wonder though, does every time you get infected with covid make you just a little bit stupider?
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I wonder though, does every time you get infected with covid make you just a little bit stupider?
Omicron offshoot XBB.1.5 could drive new Covid-19 surge in US | CNN
The CDC estimates that XBB.1.5 has more than doubled its share of the Covid-19 pie each week for the last four, rising from about 4% to 41% of new infections over the month of December.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
buckle down for a rough Q1-2 of 2023. Ignore the politicians and their cherry-picked MDs telling you the pandemic is over or that herd immunity is in place. To the nonidiots among us I say maintain red alert: masks, minimal contact with others, wash hands and face a lot. We have an immune-evasion champ on our hands.
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Omicron offshoot XBB.1.5 could drive new Covid-19 surge in US | CNN
The CDC estimates that XBB.1.5 has more than doubled its share of the Covid-19 pie each week for the last four, rising from about 4% to 41% of new infections over the month of December.
PJ Diaz
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On a separate but parallel note, apparently mRNA vaccines can cross the blood brain barrier.Do repeated covid infections make you stupid? Many in the antivaccer crowd can't afford to lose much before they start drooling and need assistance filling out forms.
Maybe a new slogan might be get vaccinated, not stupid, if each infection brought ya down a notch or two.
COVID-19 Virus Found in the Brain: Autopsies Reveal Startling New Information
An analysis of tissue samples from the autopsies of 44 people who died with COVID-19 shows that SAR-CoV-2 virus spread throughout the body—including into the brain—and that it lingered for almost 8 months. The study was published on December 14 in the journal Nature. Scientists from the Nationalscitechdaily.com
Adverse effects of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: the spike hypothesis - PMC
Vaccination is a major tool for mitigating the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, and mRNA vaccines are central to the ongoing vaccination campaign that is undoubtedly saving thousands of lives. However, adverse effects (AEs) following ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
".. biodistribution studies of the mRNA–LNP platform by Moderna in Sprague Dawley rats revealed the presence of low levels of mRNA in the brain, indicating that the mRNA–LNPs can cross the blood–brain barrier"
DIY-HP-LED
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I guess the main thing is they don't appear to be doing any harm, unlike Covid which attacks neurons and the cells supporting them. It would appear that with each natural infection a person might get dumber with each bout and could get a couple of bouts of covid a year as new strains are always popping up. So trying to stay ahead of the game as much as one can with the latest boosters might be a good idea, until a more permanent vaccine is available in a couple of years. It will still need to be an annual booster along with a flu shot probably. However it beats getting stupider by degrees as yer brain turns to mush over the years and variants!On a separate but parallel note, apparently mRNA vaccines can cross the blood brain barrier.
Adverse effects of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: the spike hypothesis - PMC
Vaccination is a major tool for mitigating the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, and mRNA vaccines are central to the ongoing vaccination campaign that is undoubtedly saving thousands of lives. However, adverse effects (AEs) following ...
".. biodistribution studies of the mRNA–LNP platform by Moderna in Sprague Dawley rats revealed the presence of low levels of mRNA in the brain, indicating that the mRNA–LNPs can cross the blood–brain barrier"
Antiviral meds still work though so it can blunt the effects of the next wave.
PJ Diaz
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You clearly didn't read the study. Many adverse events were mentioned, including: acute myocardial infarction, Bell’s palsy, cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, Guillain–Barré syndrome, myocarditis/pericarditis (mostly in younger ages), pulmonary embolism, stroke, thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome, lymphadenopathy, appendicitis, herpes zoster reactivation, neurological complications, and autoimmunity (e.g., autoimmune hepatitis and autoimmune peripheral neuropathies).
DIY-HP-LED
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Many? Reported by who? The medical community should be alarmed don't you think?
Roger A. Shrubber
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reported...not verified, not documented...no factual information....? just a bunch of shit off vaers?
PJ Diaz
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Good news! The study I posted has 139 footnotes for you to reference, but you might want to start by reading the study first before you just tacitly dismiss it. That is of course, if you really do base your positions on the findings of science. Yes, there are certainly many folks in the medical community who are alarmed, yet you quickly dismiss them.
CANON_Grow
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It certainly appears to be a valid study and has a ton of information to parse through. I will need to dig into it more, and speak to people far smarter than myself to know if it's actually valid(edit - not questioning the validity of it, just not informed enough to know either way), but the first few readings of it do raise some questions and makes it clear on-going clinical observation and documentation will be required. Hopefully the science continues to improve and they can get mRNA vaccines with zero adverse effects. I think it's prudent to say the article also states: "Importantly, these associated AEs are significantly less frequent than analogous or additional serious AEs induced after severe COVID-19"
The more articles I read about covid19 and vaccinations, the conclusion I think we end up at is there will always be some serious adverse effect to the vaccines for a very few unlucky people, but anyone that had an adverse effect to the vaccine was going to have just as much and likely a far worse reaction to covid19 infection. I hope I'm wrong and they can perfect the vaccine. I really hope we don't have to deal with this shit forever.
DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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DIY-HP-LED
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Covid isn't over, its endemic here now and an epidemic in China. The rules still apply, one day there will be a much better vaccine and those who refuse it will continue to play dice with Darwin.
DIY-HP-LED
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
This virus has broken the rules we thought we knew. They’re supposed to lose power as they bounce around the host pool.
The new variant is so unlike the one(s) for which we built the vaccines that it might yet be called Covid-22 by the historians.
The new variant is so unlike the one(s) for which we built the vaccines that it might yet be called Covid-22 by the historians.
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