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Roger A. Shrubber

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that's what UA is doing and the actual orthodox church has actually label them heretics too.....the problem is they've turned it around...basically saying Zelensky is closing the church...aka propaganda at it's best
who gives a fuck what russia says anymore? the only people who belive them are old russians who were raised on state propaganda...let them say whatever they want, they'll get a chance to explain in the Hague soon.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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in your local traitor news.....look who's on Russian TV as a commentator.....

That's a tucker carlson ass licker...Or perhaps they take turns...But the few times i've had the stomach to actually watch any of his offensive propaganda, that cocksucker was on it, kissing putin's ass.
He and carlson should both just get the fuck out and go to russia, where they could suckle putin's balls all day, every day. fucking traitors.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
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While Ukraine has not taken responsibility for the attack, its armed forces posted a cryptic message on Telegram: “While Ukraine has not taken responsibility for the attack, … “As a result of 'careless handling of heating devices,' neglecting security measures, and smoking in an unspecified place, Santa packed about 400 corpses of Russian servicemen in bags.”
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doublejj

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While Ukraine has not taken responsibility for the attack, its armed forces posted a cryptic message on Telegram: “While Ukraine has not taken responsibility for the attack, … “As a result of 'careless handling of heating devices,' neglecting security measures, and smoking in an unspecified place, Santa packed about 400 corpses of Russian servicemen in bags.”
Russian General... "President Putin Sir there were 400 Soldiers housed in that building"
Putin... "How many bodies have you found"?
Russian General..."63"
Putin.."Ok so 63 were killed the rest are deserters"...
 

Budzbuddha

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Commander :
“First , I would like to thank yuri for most impressive Krittmas angel for tree …”

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“ Pickled apples and fish for everyone ! “

Meanwhile
500lb. Of Ukrainian HIMARS HATE inbound …

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abandonconflict

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Eh for some reason i don't see China and Taiwan going at it anytime soon.....to many variables imo.....in recent years of me watching i see china using the diplomatic approach with Taiwan, getting themselves involved within they're government and then slowly taking them over from the inside....
Exactly. This is really the only way they can do it and the US desperately wants them to try the military approach.
 

abandonconflict

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I don't see the US, using provocation like that, Taiwan will be a diplomatic thing...one way or another..time will tell
You don't see the US doing everything possible to provoke it?

Really?

You don't see Pelosi and that fat ass who worked for Trump, I forgot his name, it sounded Italian, visiting Taiwan?

You don't see over a hundred 4th gen+ jets being sold to Taiwan by the US?

You don't see FONOPs?

You don't see Subic opening back up for the US navy?

You don't see another squadron of F22's in Okinawa?

You don't see AUKUS?

You didn't see when 3 carrier strike groups were in the SCS last year?

You didn't see RIMPAC where everyone BUT the PLA was invited? (PLA was invited in 2016)

Dude, China sees that shit. They know what will happen, whether there's a policy of strategic ambiguity or Biden slipping up and saying too much.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
No, the US is not belligerent. At least not in this case, not this year.

But understand the meaning of this word 'bellicose' that has recently resurged in popular usage. Some dictionaries show it meaning the same as belligerent and some show a bit of nuance.

Bellicose = wish a motherfucker would.
Belligerent = motherfucker.
 

BudmanTX

Well-Known Member
You don't see the US doing everything possible to provoke it?

Really?

You don't see Pelosi and that fat ass who worked for Trump, I forgot his name, it sounded Italian, visiting Taiwan?

You don't see over a hundred 4th gen+ jets being sold to Taiwan by the US?

You don't see FONOPs?

You don't see Subic opening back up for the US navy?

You don't see another squadron of F22's in Okinawa?

You don't see AUKUS?

You didn't see when 3 carrier strike groups were in the SCS last year?

You didn't see RIMPAC where everyone BUT the PLA was invited? (PLA was invited in 2016)

Dude, China sees that shit. They know what will happen, whether there's a policy of strategic ambiguity or Biden slipping up and saying too much.
That's not provocation, that's a defensive stance, both for the allies in the region and Taiwan
 

CCGNZ

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The US forces are modeled on the need to fight Russia, China and a smaller power at the same time. This is not talked about much because folks might start thinking we spend too much on defense. A popular saying among those of us who would like to see just a little of that money plowed back into America for the good of it's people. . . . .

The USAF is the largest air force in the world. The USN is the second largest air force in the world.
Yeah, you're points are correct,I know forces are structured on the 2 war concept. I love my country and just point out worrying trends,especially in poor procurement decisions that either are cost over-runs,delayed deployment,or platforms that don't live up to expectations. Some of these things have left us in positions that are concerning eg's,the F-35 program is about a decade behind schedule in deployment and had massive cost overruns, it was supposed to replace F-16,A10, and a few others and that is not going to happen as it ended up being too much to ask leaving the US using many aging gen4 platforms w/very old airframes while we scramble to upgrade a-10's and develop a low cost f-16 replacement. The LCS combat ship program has left our navy without any of the smallest blue water surface combatants(frigates) forcing Burke destroyers to do missions a smaller ship could be tasked with, just a couple of examples. Our defense budget has a way bigger slice dedicated to actually paying and housing our brave service people and their families w/decent benefits compared to China and Russia(do their people even get paid now). Corruption is also rampant in our adversaries defence budgets also as has been demonstrated vividly in Ukraine presently,but it annoys me when I see taxpayer money squandered w/poor decision making in regard to some weapons systems,I'm all for paying the people in uniform especially jr. officers and enlisted more$ for their service and sacrifice though,budget be damned.
 

CCGNZ

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China is a lot like a sailor I served with on the Saipan. His name was Pace, but we all called him Bulkhead. He was a big fuck, and would use pain to bully those below him into doing his work, and suck up to anyone above him in rank.

An example from him trying it on me. . . . we used to be able to do assembly in the powershop when there was too much rain to do it on the flightdeck. [I was an electrician's mate, and the powershop was our biggest space] If you got there early you could sit on the counters. Otherwise you had to stand. I was sitting on a counter when Bulkhead came in late and wanted my spot. He grabbed me by both kneecaps and was pulling me off. I grabbed a wrench and tried to knock him in the head. I missed but it hit the oven we baked motors in with a pretty loud bang. The Electrical Officer {who was Filipino} said, "Lawwe, leave Bulkhead alone," but otherwise didn't miss a beat in his remarks.

China is doing the same thing. They will use the threat pain to make the weaker countries in their neighborhood do what they want. But they will keep sucking up to the west because we buy all their shit.
Thanks for your service man,respect,surprised you didn't end up being escorted by 2 marines to the Brig.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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That's not provocation, that's a defensive stance, both for the allies in the region and Taiwan
I don't think America wants trouble over Taiwan while the semiconductor supply chain is at risk and neither does it's allies and they would have an increasing say in any such moves. Allies do not make for aggression and are better in defense, nobody goes it alone any more, not even American. Russia could not force the Belarusians to attack Ukraine, though they practically occupy the place and even in the second gulf war, America had some allies and some international support. Russia went alone into Ukraine and has no allies to speak of, Ukraine has about 50 allies who are offering various levels of support. America controls about 24% of the global economy these days and the first move in war is to cut off the enemy's trade and aid. Trade is the biggest weapon of war these days with global economic interdependency and aggressors are at a disadvantage in the international arena. Supply chains are global for everything including weapons systems, even for Uncle Sam these days.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Something is going on inside the CPP...


China’s Foreign Minister Says ‘Deeply Impressed’ With Americans

(Bloomberg) -- New Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang offered effusive praise of Americans after stepping down as his nation’s top envoy to Washington, signaling that ties between the world’s biggest economies appear to be warming despite recent tensions over Taiwan.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Something is going on inside the CPP...


China’s Foreign Minister Says ‘Deeply Impressed’ With Americans

(Bloomberg) -- New Chinese Foreign Minister Qin Gang offered effusive praise of Americans after stepping down as his nation’s top envoy to Washington, signaling that ties between the world’s biggest economies appear to be warming despite recent tensions over Taiwan.
That might be his circumspect way of expressing that he and his government are “deeply relieved” that after a four-year bender we once again elected a President.
 
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