How much per pound/grow for all the nutes.

Splinter7

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i grow about a lb in my setup if everything goes as planned. same nutes if it doesn't.
nute cost per grow is $50, but you have to spend more than that to get everything for multiple grows. total consumables is 180 or so. i use the complete GH line with boosters and peroxide for a sterile grow in 8x2gal perlite, 45 to 50 day veg. if you want to buy sugar water too that will cost extra. i run a model that tracks historical costs and projects future ones.
 

Splinter7

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Running, fans, ac units, inline fans, air pumps, lights, more lights, more little fans, a second inline, a couple water pumps. Agreed, all the money I spend for 2 grows is ½ of one electric bill.

Incase you were wondering I'm on the jacks train these days. Plus a lil this and that

this is without AC running which cost about about $70 to 90 per month.

Consumablesseed cost80.00
perlite25.00
starter soil12.00
Chemicals49.55
consumables cost166.55
avg. consumables cost per month$34.44
Energy Cost$/kw0.13
kwh direct785.53
kwh indirect 25%196.38
total energy cost per cycle$127.65
Days per cycle147.00
avg. energy cost per month$26.40
 

Johnny Lawrence

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this is without AC running which cost about about $70 to 90 per month.

Consumablesseed cost80.00
perlite25.00
starter soil12.00
Chemicals49.55
consumables cost166.55
avg. consumables cost per month$34.44
Energy Cost$/kw0.13
kwh direct785.53
kwh indirect 25%196.38
total energy cost per cycle$127.65
Days per cycle147.00
avg. energy cost per month$26.40
Electricity costs are considerably different depending on where you live.

My new setup is a third of what I was doing before. That being said, I'm averaging about $300/month in electricity. Electricity is expensive af here. At my old place, my electricity bill was more like 800 to 1000 per month.

But hey, I wanted to live close to the beach, so the size of my property(especially the garage) went way down.
 

kod42

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Electricity costs are considerably different depending on where you live.

My new setup is a third of what I was doing before. That being said, I'm averaging about $300/month in electricity. Electricity is expensive af here. At my old place, my electricity bill was more like 800 to 1000 per month.

But hey, I wanted to live close to the beach, so the size of my property(especially the garage) went way down.
That’s crazy 1k per month:spew:
My electric bill in my area I can keep it under 200. But i have a 3x3x6 tent so not to much room but plenty for me. Need to upgrade soon!
 

Splinter7

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Electricity costs are considerably different depending on where you live.

My new setup is a third of what I was doing before. That being said, I'm averaging about $300/month in electricity. Electricity is expensive af here. At my old place, my electricity bill was more like 800 to 1000 per month.

But hey, I wanted to live close to the beach, so the size of my property(especially the garage) went way down.
It depends on a lot of stuff. Max lighting is about 540 to 580 watts with UVB. I included my kwh, but that varies a lot based on ambient conditions. when venting you suck out all the air conditioned air and replace it with outside air....my outside air temp is moderate in the 80 to 60f winter, but about 105F in the summer. then there is the cost of electricity. I have included my rate too. if you are losing a lot of air to the venting, you should add a factor to account for the extra cost of AC/heating your home/space. my electric bill in the summer was just over 500 a few months where i had to run a dedicated ac unit in the closet...my estimates are without that cost. it is easy to forget all the fans and other utilities that use up energy. fans can run 60 to 150w and you might have a few...i have 4.
 

athlete420

Member
Yeah, worth it but I guess for hydro results.

I am on my first ever hydro and coco. Only ever done cheap soil or super soil and water. .

The growth on the coco hydro is insane I have never seen growth like it.

I transplanted from really tiny pots the size of a coffee cup. I neglected them as I wasn't ready. So, when I transplanted, it was crumbly dry and black, no signs of roots.

With in 6 days they threw a bunch of roots out the new pots had roots down the sides and curled around the bottom coming out the drain holes. And then, 2 weeks later, just the side branching and the growth is insane.

And I was feeding only 0.3 of nutes

Bout too smack them with 2.0 EC.

Growth could be triple

I gave them deficiency lol.

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athlete420

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See ya in the help section..
The guy at my grow shop said where I'm from whatever is suggested on the bottle for coco or hydro, which is 2.0 ec. Then all of his clients pretty much feed that.

He's got a few guys who know what they are doing feeding 2.4ec.

I read articles that said I should take into account my ec from the tap water which is 0.7, and that I should feed too 1.0 too 1.2, so I was only adding 0.3 too 0.5ec

I'm not going too go 2 but I'm defiently going 1.8ec
 

Splinter7

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The guy at my grow shop said where I'm from whatever is suggested on the bottle for coco or hydro, which is 2.0 ec. Then all of his clients pretty much feed that.

He's got a few guys who know what they are doing feeding 2.4ec.

I read articles that said I should take into account my ec from the tap water which is 0.7, and that I should feed too 1.0 too 1.2, so I was only adding 0.3 too 0.5ec

I'm not going too go 2 but I'm defiently going 1.8ec

can't help with EC reading, but in ppm i just keep adding nutes until it burns a little then back off. you should do nutes numerically on that basis unless you are measuring volumes. Still, you should mind TDS or ppm. each plant and setup is different, so relying on teh grow shop might not be a good idea.
 

FirstCavApache64

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The guy at my grow shop said where I'm from whatever is suggested on the bottle for coco or hydro, which is 2.0 ec. Then all of his clients pretty much feed that.

He's got a few guys who know what they are doing feeding 2.4ec.

I read articles that said I should take into account my ec from the tap water which is 0.7, and that I should feed too 1.0 too 1.2, so I was only adding 0.3 too 0.5ec

I'm not going too go 2 but I'm defiently going 1.8ec
Im gonna guess the guys running the really high ec feeds are pretty experienced and have they're environment and lighting on point. Feed what you think is right but read the plants and go by what they tell you, not the hydro shop guy that wants you to use as much product as possible so you'll be back to buy more sooner. I've found that less is more often enough when feeding salt nutes. Hope it goes well for you.
 

Splinter7

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Damn I sure wish I would pay 0.13 $ for a kWh.
We're at over 45 cents now, fucking EU idiots. :wall:
it's cheaper here, but i got a long term contract before prices went up, but ya...you dudes are f'd in a. it was going to be even worse too, but some of that was avoided.
 

athlete420

Member
Im gonna guess the guys running the really high ec feeds are pretty experienced and have they're environment and lighting on point. Feed what you think is right but read the plants and go by what they tell you, not the hydro shop guy that wants you to use as much product as possible so you'll be back to buy more sooner. I've found that less is more often enough when feeding salt nutes. Hope it goes well for you.
Fed at 2 ec mostly just main anb nutes but put calmag in, yeah in coco drain too waste, the runoff is always higher. I could easily dilute it, at least 1 or 2 times and bring it back too the same ppm and ph as it was when I first mixed it.

Seems a bit crazy too me too just use it once. There's no way it degrades that much over 1 - 3 waterings.

I'll probably take a sample right now.

And get a quote on lab tests.

Take one cup of fresh res water.
One of the runoff after its went though 1 time
2 times and 3 run off's and see what is happening and I'll make a decision.

Too be honest I am even considering deep water culture with a back up battery system on air stones because I can imagine so much less waste water with dwc ?

Tipping this stuff out just seems madness.
 
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