Thanks man appreciate the info but if i could i would nd the seedlings are already starting to grow out of the small pot /tray. Max i can do is a week or two
Soil mix without " cooking"?
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HydroKid239
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The wife & I didn’t let our soil mix cook. We mixed it & tossed it right into pots. Seeds & clones planted turned out fine. I’d hold off for a while before top dressing & use a light aerated top soil for a new seed layered right on top.. or not. Should be ok either way. Actual amendments used could vary your results.
Could u tell me which ones u used?!
GreenestBasterd
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Look up a “coots mix” it’s foolproof!
From your available products this is what I’d do,
1 part coco peat
1 part perlite
1 part worm castings or compost (highest quality possible)
^^^ this your base mix a will grow decent plants given you have decent genetics to begin with.
I’d add half a cup of kelp meal, fish meal and rock phosphate per cubic foot out of what you have. If you could find some, perhaps some gypsum.
This won’t need cooking and is safe to start seeds in.
The blood and bone is what makes the soil hot from my experience.
Keep it simple and you’ll be happy.
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crimsonecho
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just get some coco and/or peat. mix with high quality ewc, manure and guano, add kelp meal and aeration and plant in. it’ll not disappoint.
45% coco
25% aeration
20% ewc
5% manure
3% kelp meal
2% guano
no need to cook this mix or anything. this is what i do in my grows just get high quality fresh ewc. if you had a worm bin it would be top notch.
45% coco
25% aeration
20% ewc
5% manure
3% kelp meal
2% guano
no need to cook this mix or anything. this is what i do in my grows just get high quality fresh ewc. if you had a worm bin it would be top notch.
Thanks for the advice man I'll get some gypsum no problem
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Will try that out too thanks mate
Thanks for the recipe man but the thing is guano is hard to source here and even if i do find it the delivery costs 3/4 times the product price . So any substitute for guano?
Boatguy
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And building the wormbin
Yeah thinking about doing that man
crimsonecho
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any kind of phosporus rich amendment readily available should do actually. if your fish meal is made mostly of fishbones it should have higher phosporus for example. its just to give a balanced 1-1-1 ratio with manure and the secondary and micro elements with ewc while maintaning the same 1-1-1 npk ratio basically. then guano is just a bump of phosporus. the guano i use is also very balanced at 4-5-4 or something. so if you dont have all the materials and you need to get something together fast this is what i use in my small pots and i am satisfied with it:
coco, pumice, perlite, wheat bran, guano, ewc, manure and thats about it. i sometimes give spirulina for aminos and since these pots are small i need to do a little bit of bottle feeding at the last 3-4 weeks (but if you topdress you dont need to). no cooking i just mix and plant.
Thanks man really appreciate it
HydroKid239
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Kelp meal, bat guano, oyster shell, dolomite lime , and EWC + Canadian sphagnum peat moss 1:1
weedstoner420
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I agree, never understood why folks dive in with a laundry list of meals, flours, and dusts in their organic mixes, when there are well-balanced organic dry fertilizer blends already available, usually at your local hardware store, that contain most of the same ingredients in appropriate ratios.
Boatguy
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I dont know either.
A soil built for growing by a giant manufacturer without any nutes just waiting for whatever additions you please.
Many nute manufacturers producing a single product in a bag to grow a plant in that medium, start to finish.
Seems easy
Bruh istg this is really confusing . Can u tell me some appropriate ratios for veg and bloom
weedstoner420
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Yes. If you really want to keep it simple, I would go to the hardware store or garden center and get 3 things:
- Bagged organic "potting mix" (one that has perlite already in it, brand does not matter)
- Bagged compost or worm castings (the higher quality the better, this is the one ingredient you don't want to skimp on)
- An organic dry fertilizer blend geared towards veggie gardening (Espoma brand products like Garden-tone, Plant-tone, Bio-tone, Tomato-tone, etc are readily available in the US. Any one of them will work, just get one and stick with it. I dunno about where you are located, but anything with a relatively balanced npk (each number between 3 and 6) that seems intended for vegetable gardening or is labeled "all-purpose"will work)
Mix together about 3-4 parts potting mix to 1 part compost/ewc. That's your base. Then for every 7.5 gallons (1 cubic foot) of base, add 2 cups of the dry fertilizer blend, and mix it in. So the ratio would be something like:
- 6 gallons potting mix
- 1.5 gallons compost or ewc
- 2 cups fertilizer blend
I don't think cooking is necessary with this recipe unless it gets warm (to the touch) within a few days of mixing, which I doubt it will. But if you do want to "cook" it, save some of the plain potting mix (before adding anything else) and use that to start your seeds in smaller containers. By the time they're ready to transplant, the mix will have had a few weeks to settle down.
Throughout the grow, top-dress every 3-4 weeks according to the directions on the fertilizer bag. Maybe mix some compost or worm castings in when you top-dress. Do the same during veg and flower, if you get a decent all-purpose fertilizer blend you shouldn't have to change it for the different stages of the plant's life.
I'd go with containers on the larger side. For autos, I'd go for 5-7 gallons minimum as their final pot. The bigger the pot, the more food the plants will have.
Sorry for the long read, hopefully that all makes sense. My point was, the above mix has only 3 "things" you need to buy in order to make it. A lot of soil recipes you see on weed growing sites will have at least double that, heck I've seen some recipes with 12-15 individual ingredients. That's fine for folks who really want to nerd out about different amendments, or have a really fine-tuned mix, but the dry fertilizer blends have all the same amendments (bone/blood meal, rock dusts, guanos, etc) in them already. So just buy a blend and add according to the directions on the bag. It may not be "ideal" or 100% exactly what the plant needs, but it's plenty close enough.
One big thing I've taken away from some more knowledgeable members on this site is, weed is just another flowering annual plant, probably like a lot of things in your mom's garden. It doesn't have any cannabis-specific needs, the same growing methods that work for tomatoes and peppers will work for weed. Good luck!