Nope_49595933949
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Nah man, good grade sulfuric acid, it's what plants crave
Does anything work to increase Potency?
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Jjgrow420
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Yea, I dont understand why someone would use dangerous acids as a ph down when there's so many safer food grade available options.
bk78
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Just another sock
O0gieBO0gie
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The initial addition of say, citric acid, will drop the pH – generating citrate ions in the process – these will then be absorbed by microbes and plants, increasing the pH again rapidly. The use of these acids is therefore not recommended in hydroponics. - https://scienceinhydroponics.com/2020/05/a-guide-to-different-ph-down-options-in-hydroponics.html
O0gieBO0gie
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Food grade sulfuric acid is safe to use in hydroponics. A big advantage is that plants are quite insensitive to sulfate ions – the nutrient provided by sulfuric acid – so adding sulfuric acid does not really affect the nutrient profile being fed to the plants. - https://scienceinhydroponics.com/2020/05/a-guide-to-different-ph-down-options-in-hydroponics.html
Jjgrow420
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I never said you can't. I said there's less dangerous options. For home growers use of extremely corrosive acids isn't practical. It just seems like your googling answers and regurgitating the text.
O0gieBO0gie
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With all do respect guys i'm not making shit up for clout
I never said you said you can't, i'm simply stating that it is safe to use and where i got my research from. I'm a home grower who uses sulfuric acid and did my research before doing so. Sulfuric acid can be "food grade" too. https://www.echemi.com/cms/603804.html Seem like you don't do your research before making comments.
lusidghost
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The allure is strong. I still get the urge to dump a bunch of additives into my res. I used to use an A+B base and then add like 15 other powders into the mix. I haven't noticed any difference since I stopped, but I still feel like I'm shorting them somehow by only using a 2 part.
O0gieBO0gie
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I use to do the same thing until started make my own A+B nutes from scratch. You are doing the right thing. Less really is more. You could still add some silica tho.
lusidghost
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About a year ago I tried a little silica / kelp / fluvic acid additive blend I made, but then a drip emitter clogged so I cut them all back out.
I've been contemplating making my own for a while now. Where are you buying the individual nutrients?
medicaloutlaw
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Sulfuric acid is used in many commercial soil applications for Ph control and to prevent bacteria and mold. Used as a food preservative also. Why do you think twinkies last so long
Jjgrow420
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Ya I was going off information I know about batteries. I don't just google info I actually have some stored in my cloud drive (my brain). Looking into it, sulfuric acid can be food grade as well and is used for diff applications in the food industry. It's still silly to be telling people to use such a corrosive acid when there's other better options available. I can buy ph down (phosphoric acid or citric acid) anywhere. Not so sure about acquiring food grade sulfuric acid though. Anyways. Do what you want. Newbies should stay away from dangerous chemicals they don't need to use is all I'm saying. Maybe the application would be useful if mixing thousands of gallons, irrigating large fields where less acid would be needed to bring ph down in such a large volume. Not for a home grower.
O0gieBO0gie
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Fallguy111
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Their may be another way... There's a story about an old blues musician Robert Johnson that supposedly sold his soul to the devil. Bring your mother plant to a crossroads and midnight and smoke a joint. Good luck.
J. Rocket
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stay strong, it'll pass...lol
do they look healthy?
then your not shorting them.
3 part flora indoors for years.
opened calmag once, first rockwool grow.
actual issue was running nutes waaaay too low.
got that sorted and havent touched the stuff since.
lusidghost
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I've been off the sauce for 2 or 3 years, but I have taken the occasional taste. A little kelp here, a little Recharge there. It's been clean living through FloraFlex AB and Pool Shock for a good while now.
Modern Selections
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The better question to answer is: What kills potency in Cannabis?
A. Heat
B. High Humidity
C. Drying practices
D. Genetics
Basically even if you have the best genetics in the world, they still have to be grown to their ultimate potential. A good grower can take a Seedsman seed and produce high quality cannabis. An inexperienced/uneducated grower can turn top genetics into hay fairly easy.
Put your money and efforts into perfecting your environment and thereafter any plant you put into it will shine. Then it's all about finding the genetics that suit you.
A. Heat
B. High Humidity
C. Drying practices
D. Genetics
Basically even if you have the best genetics in the world, they still have to be grown to their ultimate potential. A good grower can take a Seedsman seed and produce high quality cannabis. An inexperienced/uneducated grower can turn top genetics into hay fairly easy.
Put your money and efforts into perfecting your environment and thereafter any plant you put into it will shine. Then it's all about finding the genetics that suit you.
Cannabis needs 18 chemicals, some in larger amounts, some in trace amounts. All fertilizers are designed to provide those chemicals in concentrations such that a plant can take up enough of them to have "sufficient" levels of those chemicals. If the plant doesn't get enough of a given chemical, that's a state of "insufficiency". If the plant is getting too much of a given chemical, it's in a state of toxicity and you may see "nute burn". If the levels are in the "sufficiency" range and the other parts of the grow environment are "within range", you will end up with a lot of cannabis.
Something I wish I'd done when I started growing (I did one grow in 2017 and have been growing consistently since 2/2021) was to not go near "the pretty bottles" (bottled nutes). I've used Fox Farm and Botanicare and they worked well for me but it was just the 18 chemicals in pretty bottles. About 8 months ago, I got dumped the nutes and used the bottles with Jack's 3-2-1 dry ferts. For just over $100, I have all of the fertilizer that I'll need for the next decade or so.
"Okay. So all the chemical and fert additives for weed are almost entirely for
Just cleaned up the text a bit.