CunningCanuk
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Pete or Kamala would be great but what about Bernie?
these are "major" accomplishments? she's cast more tie breaking votes than pence? of course she has, she was the tie breaking vote in a tied senate...she "addressed" the southern border crisis? how? when?'Everyone' voting for her is a crazy high bar, that I would agree won't be something she can pull as VP.
I know you were just exaggerating, but I think this is one of those inconsequential topics though, there are so many ways to think that 'we know' but really I think it is just more of the 'grass is greener' talk.
As for beating the Republicans there is nobody that they have that would hold a stick to her in both her experience and her ability/preparation for any head to head questioning. There might be a handful of 'better' candidates, but that would mean pissing off a whole lot of people who are extremely proud of her work as Vice President of the United States of America, and very little benefit in doing so.
There will always be something that someone can nitpick, but I am really enjoying the virtually drama free White House.
lmao because trolls are not pushing information out about her at all times puffing her up, making is harder for you to figure out where to see what she is doing, of course she might 'seem' lackluster. Chances are she might not be doing a bunch of things that a older white guy might be watching. But all you need to do if you want is to look and you can find hours of footage of things she is constantly doing, which are not total fuckups that end up bumping the crazies like MTG off the air for a couple minutes.these are "major" accomplishments? she's cast more tie breaking votes than pence? of course she has, she was the tie breaking vote in a tied senate...she "addressed" the southern border crisis? how? when?
https://blavity.com/5-major-accomplishments-from-kamala-harris-in-her-first-year-as-vice-president/5-major-accomplishments-from-kamala-harris-in-her-first-year-as-vice-president?category1=news&category2=politics&item=5
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3689844-why-kamala-harris-is-already-among-the-most-consequential-vice-presidents-in-history/
again...why does casting tie breaking votes make her anything but the vice president? that's almost their only real duty, and she did it...how does that make her "consequential" ?
"Harris, for her part, has helped balance Biden in terms of gender, age, race and geography. Harris has also taken on numerous policy priorities and promotes her boss’s agenda in Congress"....this seems like a way of saying she's a young (relatively) woman of minority descent, which effectively makes the administration more palatable to women, minorities, and minority women...again, this makes her "consequential" why?...you'd think they would have given a few details about the "numerous policy priorities" she has taken on, since the entire article was supposed to be about her "consequence"...
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/19/1074172798/what-kamala-harris-has-gotten-done-in-her-1st-year-as-vice-president
this one single article makes it seem like she's actually doing anything important...i had to look for it, and it's limited.
i'm not trying to nitpick, i'm saying it seems like you have to look for any information about her, and what you find is kind of lackluster, even an article about how consequential she is makes her seem inconsequential...maybe she needs a new publicist...
Think of it this way.these are "major" accomplishments? she's cast more tie breaking votes than pence? of course she has, she was the tie breaking vote in a tied senate...she "addressed" the southern border crisis? how? when?
https://blavity.com/5-major-accomplishments-from-kamala-harris-in-her-first-year-as-vice-president/5-major-accomplishments-from-kamala-harris-in-her-first-year-as-vice-president?category1=news&category2=politics&item=5
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3689844-why-kamala-harris-is-already-among-the-most-consequential-vice-presidents-in-history/
again...why does casting tie breaking votes make her anything but the vice president? that's almost their only real duty, and she did it...how does that make her "consequential" ?
"Harris, for her part, has helped balance Biden in terms of gender, age, race and geography. Harris has also taken on numerous policy priorities and promotes her boss’s agenda in Congress"....this seems like a way of saying she's a young (relatively) woman of minority descent, which effectively makes the administration more palatable to women, minorities, and minority women...again, this makes her "consequential" why?...you'd think they would have given a few details about the "numerous policy priorities" she has taken on, since the entire article was supposed to be about her "consequence"...
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/19/1074172798/what-kamala-harris-has-gotten-done-in-her-1st-year-as-vice-president
this one single article makes it seem like she's actually doing anything important...i had to look for it, and it's limited.
i'm not trying to nitpick, i'm saying it seems like you have to look for any information about her, and what you find is kind of lackluster, even an article about how consequential she is makes her seem inconsequential...maybe she needs a new publicist...
I would say it is properly a low-visibility spot. When it isn’t, something’s wrong.I think your both right, she has done a decent amount...but it sure doesn't seem/feel like it. It is also true that it should and traditionally is a lower visibility spot, but its also the person that goes into the next election cycle as the heir apparent so they need to have some enthusiasm around them.
Where is she popular and with what groups? We don't need to run up the score along the west coast or northeast, we need to hold onto and make gains in the midwest and upper midwest. Not sure who would gain more traction in those markets, but I think its about who will most appeal to centrists if the Ds want to keep on winning.
Will it play in Peoria as the saying goes?
Some numbers and such, they don't mean much...but eh.
What does America think of Kamala Harris? Follow the latest polls
Tracking the popularity of the vice president over timewww.latimes.com
Ford was a bit of an Edsel.Worth noting is I always crap on her, idk why i am so negative, she was my least favorite during the primaries.
Being likeable seems key to winning, and coming across as such as part of your public persona. Obama, W., Bill Clinton all had that, trump as well I guess but I didn't see it. Can't really comment past that, Bush 1 didn't seem likeable, but I would assume Regan was...other than Nixon most seemed like they were from Kennedy on.
It doesn't really have anything to do with their other qualities and qualifications. Liz Warren is a good example as well, she's super smart, qualified, yadda yadda...would be a terrible choice because she just comes across as a mean librarian.
I feel ya on gore, but I voted Nader as I lived in a solid blue state. At one juncture I was way bigger into the idea that we needed more parties on the ballot so always would always toss a vote to the greens to try and make sure they hit whatever that threshold was to be on the ballot and/or recognized as a legitimate political party.I would say it is properly a low-visibility spot. When it isn’t, something’s wrong.
People remember Agnew for corruption.
People remember Quayle for having the intellect of a brick.
People remember Pence for a noose.
People almost remember Ford for Nixon’s scandal. Mondale and Gore quietly faded away after not scoring the big one. (Gore is a heartbreak. He won, but he conceded too early. There’s a heck of a what-if novel in there for better students of history than I. I wonder what a world with no DHS would be like.)
I never chose a third party. In retrospect, I was more often voting against the guy I disliked more, which necessarily meant voting for the only viable opponent.I feel ya on gore, but I voted Nader as I lived in a solid blue state. At one juncture I was way bigger into the idea that we needed more parties on the ballot so always would always toss a vote to the greens to try and make sure they hit whatever that threshold was to be on the ballot and/or recognized as a legitimate political party.
it should be, i'm just being an ass. there is nothing wrong with Harris, and i don't think she'd be a drag on the ticket, i just think there are a few people who would get a better response. I'm sure Biden/Harris will handily beat whatever the republicans throw at them.I would say it is properly a low-visibility spot. When it isn’t, something’s wrong.
People remember Agnew for corruption.
People remember Quayle for having the intellect of a brick.
People remember Pence for a noose.
People almost remember Ford for Nixon’s scandal. Mondale and Gore quietly faded away after not scoring the big one. (Gore is a heartbreak. He won, but he conceded too early. There’s a heck of a what-if novel in there for better students of history than I. I wonder what a world with no DHS would be like.)
Personally, I think Kamala was handed a tough job with the immigration thing, then torn apart by the beaks&talons of the unsympathetic press. Her problem is not based on her performance imo.it should be, i'm just being an ass. there is nothing wrong with Harris, and i don't think she'd be a drag on the ticket, i just think there are a few people who would get a better response. I'm sure Biden/Harris will handily beat whatever the republicans throw at them.
bet none of them is above the lowest level of classification
Classified documents from Biden’s time as VP discovered in private office
Really? What's the reasoning behind that conclusion? Because i can't follow that.My guess is democrats demand he step down and the doj prosecutes him over it.
I cannot tell if you’re being serious.My guess is democrats demand he step down and the doj prosecutes him over it.