Vaccinated stay contagious longer than Unvaccinated

PJ Diaz

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While cases are not trending in the right direction, the last two spikes of hospitalizations didn't cause the crazy amount of covid deaths like previous waves. It could be a really rough Christmas and a tough start to the new year, as it appears there is a delay of 2-4 weeks after hospitalizations. I just hope there isn't 30 fewer ICU beds each day, otherwise merry Christmas - no ICU beds available. We'll find out soon enough.

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The number of "COVID Hospitalizations" can be deceiving, as we never know how many of those are folks are hospitalized DUE TO COVID vs being hospitalized WITH COVID. This has been especially true during 2022, due to increased testing and the Omicron wave.
 

CANON_Grow

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I don't want to continue to beat a dead horse, so all I will say is I don't care if covid is the main cause of hospitalizations or just a factor in it. If someone gets into a car accident and dies because there are no ICU beds available to get the proper care, it's an unnecessary death.
 

Rob Roy

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Recently there's been some research / discussion about vaccinated being able to pass on vaccine "cooties" to the unvaxxed via some kinds of contact.

I have a friend I sometimes imbibe cannabis with and his wife is vaxxed. She's a nice person, but I will be declining to puff, puff, pass with her. She can have her own joint, I don't want any vaccine cooties to change my genetic makeup.

While I don't know for sure if it's intentional or not, but some people have claimed the "pass it on" aspect isn't a mistake, it's an intentional feature of a vaccine bioweapon designed to reduce population.

It's amazing how just discussing that as a possibility gets many people who got "vaxxed" angry. Almost like they are having an internal mental struggle. I think the term is "cognitive dissonance". I would not take a blood transfusion from a vaxxed person, I know that.
 

PJ Diaz

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I don't want to continue to beat a dead horse, so all I will say is I don't care if covid is the main cause of hospitalizations or just a factor in it. If someone gets into a car accident and dies because there are no ICU beds available to get the proper care, it's an unnecessary death.
That's a pretty big "if", especially considering the screenshots you showed indicate 500 available ICU units in LA county. Also, it's pretty different if someone goes gets hospitalized for a head injury and then happen to test positive for covid, vs being admitted for symptoms related to covid-19. The idea that you can somehow conflate the two scenarios is an error.
 

PJ Diaz

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Recently there's been some research / discussion about vaccinated being able to pass on vaccine "cooties" to the unvaxxed via some kinds of contact.

I have a friend I sometimes imbibe cannabis with and his wife is vaxxed. She's a nice person, but I will be declining to puff, puff, pass with her. She can have her own joint, I don't want any vaccine cooties to change my genetic makeup.

While I don't know for sure if it's intentional or not, but some people have claimed the "pass it on" aspect isn't a mistake, it's an intentional feature of a vaccine bioweapon designed to reduce population.

It's amazing how just discussing that as a possibility gets many people who got "vaxxed" angry. Almost like they are having an internal mental struggle. I think the term is "cognitive dissonance". I would not take a blood transfusion from a vaxxed person, I know that.
Early on in the vaccination campaign, there many reports from women who were in prolonged close contact with vaccinated people, and then those women experienced menstrual anomalies not at all dissimilar to what vaccinated women have also widely reported.

 

CANON_Grow

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Early on in the vaccination campaign, there many reports from women who were in prolonged close contact with vaccinated people, and then those women experienced menstrual anomalies not at all dissimilar to what vaccinated women have also widely reported.

I actually think we can find some common ground here.

If you are NOT vaccinated and are concerned about vaxxed mutants contaminating your pure blood, you should 100% do everything in your power to prevent those vaxxed mutant particles from entering your respiratory system. ALWAYS wear a N95 mask if you are around anyone that took the jab, or are at all unsure. Keep hand sanitizer on your person, and apply frequently. Knowing big pharma, they for sure made the vaxx super spreadable so you gotta be vigilant and not let your guard down.
 

Rob Roy

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I actually think we can find some common ground here.

If you are NOT vaccinated and are concerned about vaxxed mutants contaminating your pure blood, you should 100% do everything in your power to prevent those vaxxed mutant particles from entering your respiratory system. ALWAYS wear a N95 mask if you are around anyone that took the jab, or are at all unsure. Keep hand sanitizer on your person, and apply frequently. Knowing big pharma, they for sure made the vaxx super spreadable so you gotta be vigilant and not let your guard down.
Can't we just put the vaxxed people on an island in a kind of charitable hospice thing? Of course leave them some supplies and let them turn into zombies amongst themselves ?

Think of how "society" will benefit from getting rid of the gullible genetically modified. Maybe Fauci could visit them and bring them some half face eaten lab beagles to play with?
 

CANON_Grow

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Can't we just put the vaxxed people on an island in a kind of charitable hospice thing? Of course leave them some supplies and let them turn into zombies amongst themselves ?

Think of how "society" will benefit from getting rid of the gullible genetically modified. Maybe Fauci could visit them and bring them some half face eaten lab beagles to play with?
Not sure what you got against island people, why should island people have to suffer? That sounds kinda racist to be honest man. It is a good idea though, but gonna need a pretty big island, but I like your line thinking. Keep it all separate, pure bloods on one side, vaxxed zombies on the other. Maybe just start with grocery stores or something, only pure bloods on even days, only vaxxed mutant morons on odd days, or something like that?
 

Rob Roy

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Not sure what you got against island people, why should island people have to suffer? That sounds kinda racist to be honest man. It is a good idea though, but gonna need a pretty big island, but I like your line thinking. Keep it all separate, pure bloods on one side, vaxxed zombies on the other. Maybe just start with grocery stores or something, only pure bloods on even days, only vaxxed mutant morons on odd days, or something like that?
Oh it would be a heretofore "deserted island". Maybe Antarctica or something. Heard that will be a tropical paradise after the ice melts by like next week.

Anyway, I got nothing against island people, I was born on one, an island that is, not born on an island person. That would have been awkward, "excuse me Mr. or Mrs. Island person, but I believe I was just born on you", except of course it would be in baby talk and totally incomprehensible to them.

Imagine the frustration of saying something perfectly sensible, but somehow it's incomprehensible to other people.
 

PJ Diaz

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I actually think we can find some common ground here.

If you are NOT vaccinated and are concerned about vaxxed mutants contaminating your pure blood, you should 100% do everything in your power to prevent those vaxxed mutant particles from entering your respiratory system. ALWAYS wear a N95 mask if you are around anyone that took the jab, or are at all unsure. Keep hand sanitizer on your person, and apply frequently. Knowing big pharma, they for sure made the vaxx super spreadable so you gotta be vigilant and not let your guard down.
Nah, I'm not the kind of person to live my life in a bubble, being afraid of everything in the world around me, which I could possibly get hurt by. If I were, I wouldn't own a motorcycle.

If you're into that though, you do you.

 

canndo

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I have trouble believing anyone who has reduced science and the dangers of communicability to "vaccine coodies".

It's funny, I neglected to ask, all those decades ago, when, exactly, I might experience lsd flashbacks and residual acid finally leaching out of my spinal column.

But how do we know those Hallucinogenic bits might not be communicable as well? Perhaps you might consider that danger as well.

Until then, it's been several years now since my first Frankenshot. So far I've noticed no untoward effects in myself, the dozens I know or my wife.

When shall I expect these body wide clots?

And when, should we never encounter such reactions in the general population, can we expect an admission from the anti vaxxer types that they were wrong?

See, these folks are taking lessons from doomsday cults. If the world does not end next Thursday as predicted, how many times will this cult adjust its prognostication?


I for one, am capable of admitting I was wrong after only a small but reasonable set of evidence.

Seems the anti vax cooty kooks are devoid of that simple, reality based ability.
 

PJ Diaz

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I have trouble believing anyone who has reduced science and the dangers of communicability to "vaccine coodies".

It's funny, I neglected to ask, all those decades ago, when, exactly, I might experience lsd flashbacks and residual acid finally leaching out of my spinal column.

But how do we know those Hallucinogenic bits might not be communicable as well? Perhaps you might consider that danger as well.

Until then, it's been several years now since my first Frankenshot. So far I've noticed no untoward effects in myself, the dozens I know or my wife.

When shall I expect these body wide clots?

And when, should we never encounter such reactions in the general population, can we expect an admission from the anti vaxxer types that they were wrong?

See, these folks are taking lessons from doomsday cults. If the world does not end next Thursday as predicted, how many times will this cult adjust its prognostication?


I for one, am capable of admitting I was wrong after only a small but reasonable set of evidence.

Seems the anti vax cooty kooks are devoid of that simple, reality based ability.
I don't know. How many years do you have to eat fast food regularly, and/or drink or smoke cigarettes heavily, before your body exhibits heart disease? Could be decades. Which shot number are you on now anyways, many people are already on jab-5.
 

canndo

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I don't know. How many years do you have to eat fast food regularly, and/or drink or smoke cigarettes heavily, before your body exhibits heart disease? Could be decades. Which shot number are you on now anyways, many people are already on jab-5.

The problem with your comparison is that we have the mechanics of the hazards of fast food within our scientific understanding. Further, these people are chronic consumers of such foods.
No one ever claims that three or four "doses" of curly fries will inevitably result in clogged arteries and dementia. Yet this is exactly the dark prediction of the anti vaxxers.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I have trouble believing anyone who has reduced science and the dangers of communicability to "vaccine coodies".

It's funny, I neglected to ask, all those decades ago, when, exactly, I might experience lsd flashbacks and residual acid finally leaching out of my spinal column.

But how do we know those Hallucinogenic bits might not be communicable as well? Perhaps you might consider that danger as well.

Until then, it's been several years now since my first Frankenshot. So far I've noticed no untoward effects in myself, the dozens I know or my wife.

When shall I expect these body wide clots?

And when, should we never encounter such reactions in the general population, can we expect an admission from the anti vaxxer types that they were wrong?

See, these folks are taking lessons from doomsday cults. If the world does not end next Thursday as predicted, how many times will this cult adjust its prognostication?


I for one, am capable of admitting I was wrong after only a small but reasonable set of evidence.

Seems the anti vax cooty kooks are devoid of that simple, reality based ability.
I do not understand the reflex fear of a therapy that has averted so much harm.

Although finally being able to understand what the moles on my scalp and shoulders are whispering to each other at night (when they think I’m asleep) is pretty damned cool.
 
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PJ Diaz

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The problem with your comparison is that we have the mechanics of the hazards of fast food within our scientific understanding. Further, these people are chronic consumers of such foods.
No one ever claims that three or four "doses" of curly fries will inevitably result in clogged arteries and dementia. Yet this is exactly the dark prediction of the anti vaxxers.
There was certainly a time when we didn't understand the mechanics of the hazards of things like fast food, cigarettes, and alcohol, but there were small groups of people who were out there warning us of such hazards. Not in dissimilar fashion, those people were often called crazy conspiracy theorists, until decades later they were proved right.

Remember when we were told that cigarettes were good for us by doctors?

https://www.history.com/news/cigarette-ads-doctors-smoking-endorsement

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sweetisland2009

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The epoch times.

ahh yes, the quick attempt to dismiss. Just stick to msnbc and anything .gov and nod approvingly

here is the actual content they’re citing btw

 

CunningCanuk

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ahh yes, the quick attempt to dismiss. Just stick to msnbc and anything .gov and nod approvingly

here is the actual content they’re citing btw

Glad you’re on the case. Let me know when 7 million die from the vaccine.
 
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