Fogdog
Well-Known Member
doesn't change the real criticism I offered to your complaint. There is a large contingent in this country, perhaps a majority, that intend for this system to work.
Examples of GOP Leadership
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doublejj
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Iowa Republicans want to ban SNAP recipients from buying meat, white bread, and American cheese
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Iowa Republicans want to ban SNAP recipients from buying meat, white bread, and American cheese
A food bank advocate called the GOP bill "one of the most egregious attempts we've seen over the last many years" to cut back on benefits for the needy.
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Probly other priorities like a pay raise for the state legislators, or some kind of sweetheart deal for their in laws. And SNAP recipients who do vote, will vote for these assholes again. Wtf is wrong w/ppl? I remember Reagan hating on the homeless allatime. So, i'd be at work w/somebody and they'd say, "Why should my tax dollars go for some homeless woman popping out babies?" Nah, it should go to building up military for invasions of Grenada and Panama. That's right. Thing these jerk voters don't realize is they're next on the teabagger hit list. And then, what? They're jealous of somebody who's getting food stamps? They have jobs, and they're jealous of somebody who doesn't? Un-fucking-believable!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The entitlement plan that irritates me is the series of income and payroll tax cuts.
HGCC
Well-Known Member
We (democrats) have a lot of money and resources. They should start running ads on fox highlighting this.
If SS gets cut, republicans will 100% run on it. They can say biden was president, so the democrats cut it. Democrats need to start getting out in front of stuff.
Edit: yeah, the SNAP one is another good thing to run ads on. Target them in rural areas.
printer
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Trump: ‘Under no circumstances’ should Republicans cut Social Security or Medicare
Former President Trump on Friday urged Republicans in Congress not to cut “a single penny” from Medicare or Social Security, a notable warning as some GOP lawmakers prepare to use the debt ceiling debate as leverage to try to secure spending cuts.
“Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security to help pay for Joe Biden’s reckless spending spree, which is more reckless than anybody’s ever done or had in the history of our country,” Trump said in a recorded video statement posted to Truth Social.
The former president, who in November launched a 2024 White House campaign, called for cuts to a slew of other areas, including funding for “corrupt foreign countries,” “climate extremism,” “left-wing gender programs from our military” and “waste, fraud and abuse everywhere we can find it.”
He lambasted Biden’s spending agenda, though the national debt increased by roughly $7 trillion during the Trump administration.
“While we absolutely need to stop Biden’s out of control spending, the pain should be borne by Washington bureaucrats, not by hard-working American families and American seniors,” Trump said. “The seniors are being absolutely destroyed in the last two years.”
The former president’s message about protecting Social Security and Medicare is consistent with his previous comments on the issue as a candidate in 2016. But Friday’s video dropped as Republicans in Congress are readying for a fight over raising the debt limit, with some conservatives arguing cuts or reforms to Social Security and Medicare should be on the table in order to balance spending.
Trump’s comments on the social safety net are also in line with the message coming from the Biden White House. Biden has repeatedly warned Republicans may try to cut programs including Social Security and Medicare and vowed to veto any such efforts. The White House has been adamant that it will not negotiate lifting the debt ceiling with conditions, such as spending cuts.
The U.S. hit its debt limit this week, and the Treasury Department this week enacted “extraordinary measures” to continue to pay its debts, giving lawmakers until June to reach a deal to raise the limit. The debt ceiling accounts for money the government has already spent and approved, not future spending.
Democrats approached Trump’s comments with skepticism.
“Donald Trump’s own record speaks for itself: Every year he was in office, Trump proposed cutting Social Security and Medicare programs,” Rhyan Lake, a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement. “Americans overwhelmingly rejected the MAGA agenda of gutting Social Security, Medicare, and affordable health care in 2018, 2020, and 2022, and will do so again.”
thehill.com
Former President Trump on Friday urged Republicans in Congress not to cut “a single penny” from Medicare or Social Security, a notable warning as some GOP lawmakers prepare to use the debt ceiling debate as leverage to try to secure spending cuts.
“Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security to help pay for Joe Biden’s reckless spending spree, which is more reckless than anybody’s ever done or had in the history of our country,” Trump said in a recorded video statement posted to Truth Social.
The former president, who in November launched a 2024 White House campaign, called for cuts to a slew of other areas, including funding for “corrupt foreign countries,” “climate extremism,” “left-wing gender programs from our military” and “waste, fraud and abuse everywhere we can find it.”
He lambasted Biden’s spending agenda, though the national debt increased by roughly $7 trillion during the Trump administration.
“While we absolutely need to stop Biden’s out of control spending, the pain should be borne by Washington bureaucrats, not by hard-working American families and American seniors,” Trump said. “The seniors are being absolutely destroyed in the last two years.”
The former president’s message about protecting Social Security and Medicare is consistent with his previous comments on the issue as a candidate in 2016. But Friday’s video dropped as Republicans in Congress are readying for a fight over raising the debt limit, with some conservatives arguing cuts or reforms to Social Security and Medicare should be on the table in order to balance spending.
Trump’s comments on the social safety net are also in line with the message coming from the Biden White House. Biden has repeatedly warned Republicans may try to cut programs including Social Security and Medicare and vowed to veto any such efforts. The White House has been adamant that it will not negotiate lifting the debt ceiling with conditions, such as spending cuts.
The U.S. hit its debt limit this week, and the Treasury Department this week enacted “extraordinary measures” to continue to pay its debts, giving lawmakers until June to reach a deal to raise the limit. The debt ceiling accounts for money the government has already spent and approved, not future spending.
Democrats approached Trump’s comments with skepticism.
“Donald Trump’s own record speaks for itself: Every year he was in office, Trump proposed cutting Social Security and Medicare programs,” Rhyan Lake, a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement. “Americans overwhelmingly rejected the MAGA agenda of gutting Social Security, Medicare, and affordable health care in 2018, 2020, and 2022, and will do so again.”
Trump: ‘Under no circumstances’ should Republicans cut Social Security or Medicare
Former President Trump on Friday urged Republicans in Congress not to cut “a single penny” from Medicare or Social Security, a notable warning as some GOP lawmakers prepare to use the d…
thehill.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
would Fox run the ads?
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
good point...that's about all magats watch
printer
Well-Known Member
They are going to need the revenue to pay off the voting machine manufacturers. Could also show the judge they are mending their ways.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
That is reasonable. I’m not sure reason is in the driver’s seat at the network.
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
When i was younger, i imagined that people with money must be intelligent, they made all that money, after all...
Now i see that making money is nothing more than another talent that some have and others do not, and it really has nothing to do with native intelligence.
some people who make a lot of money are actually very intelligent, like Bill Gates, zuckerberg, Warren Buffet, while others are like idiot savants who know how to make money, but lack any moral or ethical standards, and have little to no empathy for anyone, like musk, trump, and murdoch.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Could be. I don’t know either way.
Roger A. Shrubber
Well-Known Member
I'm not so sure, Murdoch has always had his own personal agenda, often losing money to get a public bully pulpit to hammer at the masses with.
Sometimes he will side with liberals, and sometimes with conservatives....I have a hard time deciphering his motives, as they don't seem consistent.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-rupert-murdoch/2013/11/08/341837ea-47bf-11e3-b6f8-3782ff6cb769_story.html
paywalled, but firefox reader mode gets around it ^
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Trump doesn't math good. The Republican cry over capping the national debt ceiling can only be justified by capping Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.Trump: ‘Under no circumstances’ should Republicans cut Social Security or Medicare
Former President Trump on Friday urged Republicans in Congress not to cut “a single penny” from Medicare or Social Security, a notable warning as some GOP lawmakers prepare to use the debt ceiling debate as leverage to try to secure spending cuts.
“Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security to help pay for Joe Biden’s reckless spending spree, which is more reckless than anybody’s ever done or had in the history of our country,” Trump said in a recorded video statement posted to Truth Social.
The former president, who in November launched a 2024 White House campaign, called for cuts to a slew of other areas, including funding for “corrupt foreign countries,” “climate extremism,” “left-wing gender programs from our military” and “waste, fraud and abuse everywhere we can find it.”
He lambasted Biden’s spending agenda, though the national debt increased by roughly $7 trillion during the Trump administration.
“While we absolutely need to stop Biden’s out of control spending, the pain should be borne by Washington bureaucrats, not by hard-working American families and American seniors,” Trump said. “The seniors are being absolutely destroyed in the last two years.”
The former president’s message about protecting Social Security and Medicare is consistent with his previous comments on the issue as a candidate in 2016. But Friday’s video dropped as Republicans in Congress are readying for a fight over raising the debt limit, with some conservatives arguing cuts or reforms to Social Security and Medicare should be on the table in order to balance spending.
Trump’s comments on the social safety net are also in line with the message coming from the Biden White House. Biden has repeatedly warned Republicans may try to cut programs including Social Security and Medicare and vowed to veto any such efforts. The White House has been adamant that it will not negotiate lifting the debt ceiling with conditions, such as spending cuts.
The U.S. hit its debt limit this week, and the Treasury Department this week enacted “extraordinary measures” to continue to pay its debts, giving lawmakers until June to reach a deal to raise the limit. The debt ceiling accounts for money the government has already spent and approved, not future spending.
Democrats approached Trump’s comments with skepticism.
“Donald Trump’s own record speaks for itself: Every year he was in office, Trump proposed cutting Social Security and Medicare programs,” Rhyan Lake, a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement. “Americans overwhelmingly rejected the MAGA agenda of gutting Social Security, Medicare, and affordable health care in 2018, 2020, and 2022, and will do so again.”
Trump: ‘Under no circumstances’ should Republicans cut Social Security or Medicare
Former President Trump on Friday urged Republicans in Congress not to cut “a single penny” from Medicare or Social Security, a notable warning as some GOP lawmakers prepare to use the d…
Trump politicals good. He knows that a Republican isn't against entitlement programs. A Republican wants cuts to programs they don't use. His base don't math good either.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I’m still curious where MosCarthy and co. will find the revenues needed to address social security.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
They aren't talking about cutting benefits to people already drawing from SS. They are talking about capping the debt, not cutting it. So, they are talking about capping benefits programs like social security and Medicare by raising age limits and making it harder to fully benefit from Medicare and Medicaid. They can't cap the debt without cutting benefits to future beneficiaries.
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The Republican Study Committee, the largest group of House Republicans, released a budget plan in June that called on lawmakers to gradually raise the Medicare age of eligibility to 67 and the Social Security eligibility to 70 before indexing both to life expectancy. It backed withholding payments to those who retired early and had earnings over a certain limit. And it endorsed the consideration of options to reduce payroll taxes that fund Social Security and redirect them to private alternatives. It also urged lawmakers to “phase-in an increase in means testing” for Medicare.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I call those cuts behind a semantic veneer.They aren't talking about cutting benefits to people already drawing from SS. They are talking about capping the debt, not cutting it. So, they are talking about capping benefits programs like social security and Medicare by raising age limits and making it harder to fully benefit from Medicare and Medicaid. They can't cap the debt without cutting benefits to future beneficiaries.
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The Republican Study Committee, the largest group of House Republicans, released a budget plan in June that called on lawmakers to gradually raise the Medicare age of eligibility to 67 and the Social Security eligibility to 70 before indexing both to life expectancy. It backed withholding payments to those who retired early and had earnings over a certain limit. And it endorsed the consideration of options to reduce payroll taxes that fund Social Security and redirect them to private alternatives. It also urged lawmakers to “phase-in an increase in means testing” for Medicare.
Roger A. Shrubber
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I doubt they'll ever pass anything of the sort, but if they ever did, it sure seems like they should owe each and every person working before that decision a FULL REFUND of every red cent that they had paid into the SS system, and medicare, up to that point.They aren't talking about cutting benefits to people already drawing from SS. They are talking about capping the debt, not cutting it. So, they are talking about capping benefits programs like social security and Medicare by raising age limits and making it harder to fully benefit from Medicare and Medicaid. They can't cap the debt without cutting benefits to future beneficiaries.
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The Republican Study Committee, the largest group of House Republicans, released a budget plan in June that called on lawmakers to gradually raise the Medicare age of eligibility to 67 and the Social Security eligibility to 70 before indexing both to life expectancy. It backed withholding payments to those who retired early and had earnings over a certain limit. And it endorsed the consideration of options to reduce payroll taxes that fund Social Security and redirect them to private alternatives. It also urged lawmakers to “phase-in an increase in means testing” for Medicare.
