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ooof-da

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new rule: no documents can leave the WH…EVER!

these stupid idiots are not responsible enough, none of them, regardless of party affiliation!

rant over…keep scrolling:wall:
 

Rob Roy

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The fact there are classified documents is evidence there are secret police and a secretive government.

It used to be common to hear "it's a free country" in conversation, not anymore. If anyone says it now, the NSA hears them and puts them on a list.

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Roger A. Shrubber

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A staffer was in charge of the files not Biden himself whereas Trump was in charge of everything; purposely and personally took files from their archive box; personally stuffed them into bank boxes in order to conceal their identity.

Do people think Russia is the only place that's bugged with cameras?

I'm ignoring it.
I have no doubt that Biden had no idea he had those papers. It's not the papers themselves, it's the HUGE pile of ammo it gives the republicans. They never shut up when they have absolutely nothing to bitch about, now they have something to bitch about, and we'll keep hearing about it till the day the republican party dies. It also gives them more brainwashing material, to just make the rift between sides deeper, and the climb out of the rabbit hole steeper.
it does do one good thing, which is to point out that the steps taken to guarantee the return of these types of documents needs to be completely gone over, and beefed up. this should have never been able to happen, and trump should have been called out over the very first document that he didn't return...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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new rule: no documents can leave the WH…EVER!

these stupid idiots are not responsible enough, none of them, regardless of party affiliation!

rant over…keep scrolling:wall:
well, except they need them at meetings, they need them at committee negotiations, they need them when and where they need them...and they aren't kept at the white house, they seem to be kept in any of a number of places...which seems like a bad idea.
 

schuylaar

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new rule: no documents can leave the WH…EVER!

these stupid idiots are not responsible enough, none of them, regardless of party affiliation!

rant over…keep scrolling:wall:
Dude..Biden staffers handle that stuff; Trump handled everything himself.

Biden has aides and uses them accordingly.
 

ooof-da

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well, except they need them at meetings, they need them at committee negotiations, they need them when and where they need them...and they aren't kept at the white house, they seem to be kept in any of a number of places...which seems like a bad idea.
ya maybe they do. I don’t know but this is ridiculous and we look like a bunch of blubbering idiots to the rest of the world if you ask me…which you’re not….but it’s just my rant. There has to be a way to not have sensitive material go missing or why even classify it if no one is gonna respect the classification and there is no ramifications for not returning it. maybe all the meetings, committee negotiations, etc. need to be moved to the WH? IDK man
 

ooof-da

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Dude..Biden staffers handle that stuff; Trump handled everything himself.

Biden has aides and uses them accordingly.
ya maybe that’s true. However if they never left the WH (via a POTUS or his/her staffers) then the risk is eliminated no? Outside of stealing…
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The fact there are classified documents is evidence there are secret police and a secretive government.

It used to be common to hear "it's a free country" in conversation, not anymore. If anyone says it now, the NSA hears them and puts them on a list.

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i usually regret this...
the fact that there are secret documents is evidence that there are "secret police"...but they're called the FBI, the CIA, Military Intelligence, and they all operate with the governments full knowledge. it is NOT proof of a secret government...that is ridiculous horseshit, and you know better.
it's still exactly as free a country as it's ever been, sorry they haven't abolished all law enforcement so you can do whatever ridiculous shit you've been dreaming of doing...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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ya maybe that’s true. However if they never left the WH (via a POTUS or his/her staffers) then the risk is eliminated no? Outside of stealing…
There are 435 members of the house, 100 senators, and many cabinet positions that may at times have need to access classified documents...Trying to cram them into one facility is just not going to work.
There DOES need to be reform, there do need to be immediate and biting consequences for not returning these documents, they need to be checked out and checked back in, daily, and anything that doesn't get checked back in gets retrieved by the FBI the next day...Although that may be difficult in the case of a president who actively tries to steal them.
 

Rob Roy

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i usually regret this...
the fact that there are secret documents is evidence that there are "secret police"...but they're called the FBI, the CIA, Military Intelligence, and they all operate with the governments full knowledge. it is NOT proof of a secret government...that is ridiculous horseshit, and you know better.
it's still exactly as free a country as it's ever been, sorry they haven't abolished all law enforcement so you can do whatever ridiculous shit you've been dreaming of doing...

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schuylaar

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Which has absolutely nothing to do with my statement...
At all. Not even a good attempt at deflection.
I would say try harder, you're capable of better, but meh...
Really @Rob Roy looking forward to your reply, only to meme? Guess that was Point- Roger.

Nice explanation BTW..to go one step further..it's like a library in National Archive @ooof-da and the files are the books.
 

schuylaar

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There are 435 members of the house, 100 senators, and many cabinet positions that may at times have need to access classified documents...Trying to cram them into one facility is just not going to work.
There DOES need to be reform, there do need to be immediate and biting consequences for not returning these documents, they need to be checked out and checked back in, daily, and anything that doesn't get checked back in gets retrieved by the FBI the next day...Although that may be difficult in the case of a president who actively tries to steal them.
Some people say the person who held that job for VP Biden should be questioned about their housekeeping practices. Not sure why, but something tells me he'd/she'd be the one to benefit from a training moment..especially if their new post is the Pentagon.
 

Rob Roy

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the fact that there are secret documents is evidence that there are "secret police"...but they're called the FBI, the CIA, Military Intelligence, and they all operate with the governments full knowledge.
What makes them secret police is they operate secretly. Meaning their alleged "masters" (the people that are forced to pay them) are kept in the dark or told lies. Gulf of Tonkin? JFK? 9/11 ? Operation Northwoods ? Ahem.

I say alleged masters because obviously "the people" are the slaves and not the masters.

Your statement that the FBI, CIA and military operate with governments full knowledge is vague, not really accurate and it's also a non sequitur. Basically so what if they did, but they don't anyway. So sort of a non argument point you made either way.

Not that I'm a fan of any coercion based government, but I can play "small government guy" momentarily to point out the intention was to have an open and accountable government. That's obviously not the case, not even close.

Also, miltary intelligence is an oxymoron. There isn't even supposed to be a standing army, endless undeclared wars or foreign occupation of most of the world.
 

Fogdog

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ya maybe they do. I don’t know but this is ridiculous and we look like a bunch of blubbering idiots to the rest of the world if you ask me…which you’re not….but it’s just my rant. There has to be a way to not have sensitive material go missing or why even classify it if no one is gonna respect the classification and there is no ramifications for not returning it. maybe all the meetings, committee negotiations, etc. need to be moved to the WH? IDK man
I don't recall you posting shit about confidential documents when Trump was found to be holding thousands of them at Mar a Lago. so NOW you show up crying about this? The wailing sounds familiar.

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