PadawanWarrior
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Are you guys intentionally derailing this thread to get it closed down. If so, that's a pretty shitty tactic.
More classified documents found at Biden house
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
silly, that’s George.
sweetisland2009
Well-Known Member
you would think a mod would just remove them from the thread instead but we will see what happens.
Back on topic. MSNBC this morning:
On Monday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” White House Spokesman for Oversight and Investigations, Special Assistant to President Joe Biden, and Senior Advisor to the White House Counsel’s Office Ian Sams responded to a question on whether there could be any classified documents at any other locations owned or used by President Joe Biden by stating that he’s going to “be really careful not to talk about potential future steps and developments in the investigation” and he’s not going to get ahead of the process.
Co-host Mika Brzezinski asked, “Ian, are there any possibilities that there are documents at other locations owned or used by President Biden in the past?”
Sams responded, “So, the President’s personal lawyers and DOJ are in communication and they’re making sure that they’re coordinated on the next steps of this investigation. Look, we’re going to be really careful not to talk about potential future steps and developments in the investigation itself because we respect the independence of DOJ to conduct this thoroughly and fairly on their own accord. And so, I’m just not going to get ahead of that process and questions like that.”
Brzezinski then remarked, “Okay, so there’s a possibility. I don’t know.”
Sir Napsalot
Well-Known Member
You seem paranoid
Budzbuddha
Well-Known Member
To keep mom and dad happy on this thread ….. here is a supposed leak pic.
The United States has three levels of classification: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. Each level of classification indicates an increasing degree of sensitivity. Thus, if one holds a Top Secret security clearance, one is allowed to handle information up to the level of Top Secret, including Secret and Confidential information. If one holds a Secret clearance, one may not then handle Top Secret information, but may handle Secret and Confidential classified information.
Confidential documents anre often automatically “ degraded “ in security level over the years …… There is also a big difference in cooperating with authorities vs. “ Top Secret “ docs that the Fat Orange Macroon HID / LIED and was forced under subpoena to cough up. Nuke Secrets - ”Missing Files “ - and Obstruction at the least.
The United States has three levels of classification: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret. Each level of classification indicates an increasing degree of sensitivity. Thus, if one holds a Top Secret security clearance, one is allowed to handle information up to the level of Top Secret, including Secret and Confidential information. If one holds a Secret clearance, one may not then handle Top Secret information, but may handle Secret and Confidential classified information.
Confidential documents anre often automatically “ degraded “ in security level over the years …… There is also a big difference in cooperating with authorities vs. “ Top Secret “ docs that the Fat Orange Macroon HID / LIED and was forced under subpoena to cough up. Nuke Secrets - ”Missing Files “ - and Obstruction at the least.
CunningCanuk
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bam0813
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18 CFR § 3a.22 - Declassification and downgrading.
Dayumn! Look at that thumb.
I totally saw that too..people, people..be careful with filters.'in this case the yellow highlighted dead skin
Seriously can't believe that when she was getting the mani for the pic she didn't get the pedi.
Correctamundo!
Curly that died was my favorite..part of Sunday afternoon line-up..Little Rascals, Superman.
Actually, now that I really look at it, it appears to be spray tan that she didn't get all the way off. After a session you wash the bottom part of your feet scrubbing the heel area especially.
Spray tans stink literally..there were other employees in my office that would go to the hottest famous people places in Miami to get sprayed..it smells terrible and you can't shower for 3 days/72 hours..even in my cubby I could always sense a fresh spray
You poor guy.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Pence too now! Looks like it will be back to "hang Mike Pence"! Makes that congressional investigation kinda complicated eh Gym? How many senators have classified documents, bet they are going through those boxes in storage now!
First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence’s Indiana home
Washington
CNN
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A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence’s Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
The FBI and the Justice Department’s National Security Division have launched a review of the documents and how they ended up in Pence’s house in Indiana.
The classified documents were discovered at Pence’s new home in Carmel, Indiana, by a lawyer for Pence in the wake of the revelations about classified material discovered in President Joe Biden’s private office and residence, the sources said. The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession.
It is not yet clear what the documents are related to or their level of sensitivity or classification.
Pence’s team notified congressional leaders and relevant committees of the discovery on Tuesday.
Pence asked his lawyer to conduct the search of his home out of an abundance of caution, and the attorney began going through four boxes stored at Pence’s house last week, finding a small number of documents with classified markings, the sources said.
Pence’s lawyer immediately alerted the National Archives, the sources said. In turn, the Archives informed the Justice Department.
A lawyer for Pence told CNN that the FBI requested to pick up the documents with classified markings that evening, and Pence agreed. Agents from the FBI’s field office in Indianapolis picked up the documents from Pence’s home, the lawyer said.
On Monday, Pence’s legal team drove the boxes back to Washington, DC, and handed them over to the Archives to review the rest of the material for compliance with the Presidential Records Act.
In a letter to the National Archives obtained by CNN, Pence’s representative to the Archives Greg Jacob wrote that a “small number of documents bearing classified markings” were inadvertently boxed and transported to the vice president’s home.
“Vice President Pence was unaware of the existence of sensitive or classified documents at his personal residence,” Jacob wrote. “Vice President Pence understands the high importance of protecting sensitive and classified information and stands ready and willing to cooperate fully with the National Archives and any appropriate inquiry.”
The classified material was stored in boxes that first went to Pence’s temporary home in Virginia before they were moved to Indiana, according to the sources. The boxes were not in a secure area, but they were taped up and were not believed to have been opened since they were packed, according to Pence’s attorney. Once the classified documents were discovered, the sources said they were placed inside a safe located in the house.
Pence’s Washington, DC, advocacy group office was also searched, Pence’s lawyer said, and no classified material or other records covered by the Presidential Records Act was discovered.
The news about Pence come as special counsels investigate the handling of classified documents by both Biden and former President Donald Trump. The revelations also come amid speculation that Pence is readying for a run at the Republican nomination for president in 2024.
Since the FBI searched Trump’s home in Florida for classified material in August with a search warrant, Pence has said that he had not retained any classified material upon leaving office. “No, not to my knowledge,” he told The Associated Press in August.
In November, Pence was asked by ABC News at his Indiana home whether he had taken any classified documents from the White House.
“I did not,” Pence responded.
“Well, there’d be no reason to have classified documents, particularly if they were in an unprotected area,” Pence continued. “But I will tell you that I believe there had to be many better ways to resolve that issue than executing a search warrant at the personal residence of a former president of the United States.”
While Pence’s vice presidential office in general did a rigorous job while he was leaving office of sorting through and turning over any classified material and unclassified material covered by the Presidential Records Act, these classified documents appear to have inadvertently slipped through the process because most of the materials were packed up separately from the vice president’s residence, along with Pence’s personal papers, the sources told ClNN.
The vice president’s residence at the US Naval Observatory in Washington has a secure facility for handling classified material along with other security, and it would be common for classified documents to be there for the vice president to review.
Some of the boxes at Pence’s Indiana home were packed up from the vice president’s residence, while some came from the White House in the final days of the Trump administration, which included last-minute things that did not go through the process the rest of Pence’s documents did.
The discovery of classified documents in Pence’s residence marks the third time in recent history in which a president or vice president has inappropriately possessed classified material after leaving office. Both Biden and Trump are now being investigated by separate special counsels for their handling of classified materials.
Sources familiar with the process say Pence’s discovery of classified documents after the Trump and Biden controversies would suggest a more systemic problem related to classified material and the Presidential Records Act, which requires official records from the White House to be turned over to the National Archives at the end of an administration.
On Friday, the FBI searched Biden’s Wilmington residence for additional classified material, an unprecedented search of a sitting president’s home that turned up six additional items containing classified markings. The search was conducted after Biden’s lawyers discovered classified material in Wilmington following the initial discovery of classified documents at Biden’s private think office in November.
Biden’s attorneys say they are fully cooperating with the Justice Department, seeking to draw a distinction from the Trump investigation.
The FBI obtained a search warrant to search Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in August. Federal investigators took that step because they believed Trump had not turned over all classified material despite a subpoena and were concerned records at Mar-a-Lago were being moved around.
Last week, Pence told Larry Kudlow in a Fox Business interview that he received the President’s Daily Brief at the vice president’s residence.
“I’d rise early. I’d go to the safe where my military aide would place those classified materials. I’d pull them out, review them,” Pence said. “I’d receive a presentation to them and then, frankly, more often than not Larry, I would simply return them back to the file that I’d received them in. They went in commonly into what was called a burn bag that my military aide would gather and then destroy those classified materials—same goes in materials that I would receive at the White House.”
First on CNN: Classified documents found at Pence’s Indiana home
Washington
CNN
—
A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence discovered about a dozen documents marked as classified at Pence’s Indiana home last week, and he has turned those classified records over to the FBI, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN.
The FBI and the Justice Department’s National Security Division have launched a review of the documents and how they ended up in Pence’s house in Indiana.
The classified documents were discovered at Pence’s new home in Carmel, Indiana, by a lawyer for Pence in the wake of the revelations about classified material discovered in President Joe Biden’s private office and residence, the sources said. The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession.
It is not yet clear what the documents are related to or their level of sensitivity or classification.
Pence’s team notified congressional leaders and relevant committees of the discovery on Tuesday.
Pence asked his lawyer to conduct the search of his home out of an abundance of caution, and the attorney began going through four boxes stored at Pence’s house last week, finding a small number of documents with classified markings, the sources said.
Pence’s lawyer immediately alerted the National Archives, the sources said. In turn, the Archives informed the Justice Department.
A lawyer for Pence told CNN that the FBI requested to pick up the documents with classified markings that evening, and Pence agreed. Agents from the FBI’s field office in Indianapolis picked up the documents from Pence’s home, the lawyer said.
On Monday, Pence’s legal team drove the boxes back to Washington, DC, and handed them over to the Archives to review the rest of the material for compliance with the Presidential Records Act.
In a letter to the National Archives obtained by CNN, Pence’s representative to the Archives Greg Jacob wrote that a “small number of documents bearing classified markings” were inadvertently boxed and transported to the vice president’s home.
“Vice President Pence was unaware of the existence of sensitive or classified documents at his personal residence,” Jacob wrote. “Vice President Pence understands the high importance of protecting sensitive and classified information and stands ready and willing to cooperate fully with the National Archives and any appropriate inquiry.”
The classified material was stored in boxes that first went to Pence’s temporary home in Virginia before they were moved to Indiana, according to the sources. The boxes were not in a secure area, but they were taped up and were not believed to have been opened since they were packed, according to Pence’s attorney. Once the classified documents were discovered, the sources said they were placed inside a safe located in the house.
Pence’s Washington, DC, advocacy group office was also searched, Pence’s lawyer said, and no classified material or other records covered by the Presidential Records Act was discovered.
The news about Pence come as special counsels investigate the handling of classified documents by both Biden and former President Donald Trump. The revelations also come amid speculation that Pence is readying for a run at the Republican nomination for president in 2024.
Since the FBI searched Trump’s home in Florida for classified material in August with a search warrant, Pence has said that he had not retained any classified material upon leaving office. “No, not to my knowledge,” he told The Associated Press in August.
In November, Pence was asked by ABC News at his Indiana home whether he had taken any classified documents from the White House.
“I did not,” Pence responded.
“Well, there’d be no reason to have classified documents, particularly if they were in an unprotected area,” Pence continued. “But I will tell you that I believe there had to be many better ways to resolve that issue than executing a search warrant at the personal residence of a former president of the United States.”
While Pence’s vice presidential office in general did a rigorous job while he was leaving office of sorting through and turning over any classified material and unclassified material covered by the Presidential Records Act, these classified documents appear to have inadvertently slipped through the process because most of the materials were packed up separately from the vice president’s residence, along with Pence’s personal papers, the sources told ClNN.
The vice president’s residence at the US Naval Observatory in Washington has a secure facility for handling classified material along with other security, and it would be common for classified documents to be there for the vice president to review.
Some of the boxes at Pence’s Indiana home were packed up from the vice president’s residence, while some came from the White House in the final days of the Trump administration, which included last-minute things that did not go through the process the rest of Pence’s documents did.
The discovery of classified documents in Pence’s residence marks the third time in recent history in which a president or vice president has inappropriately possessed classified material after leaving office. Both Biden and Trump are now being investigated by separate special counsels for their handling of classified materials.
Sources familiar with the process say Pence’s discovery of classified documents after the Trump and Biden controversies would suggest a more systemic problem related to classified material and the Presidential Records Act, which requires official records from the White House to be turned over to the National Archives at the end of an administration.
On Friday, the FBI searched Biden’s Wilmington residence for additional classified material, an unprecedented search of a sitting president’s home that turned up six additional items containing classified markings. The search was conducted after Biden’s lawyers discovered classified material in Wilmington following the initial discovery of classified documents at Biden’s private think office in November.
Biden’s attorneys say they are fully cooperating with the Justice Department, seeking to draw a distinction from the Trump investigation.
The FBI obtained a search warrant to search Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in August. Federal investigators took that step because they believed Trump had not turned over all classified material despite a subpoena and were concerned records at Mar-a-Lago were being moved around.
Last week, Pence told Larry Kudlow in a Fox Business interview that he received the President’s Daily Brief at the vice president’s residence.
“I’d rise early. I’d go to the safe where my military aide would place those classified materials. I’d pull them out, review them,” Pence said. “I’d receive a presentation to them and then, frankly, more often than not Larry, I would simply return them back to the file that I’d received them in. They went in commonly into what was called a burn bag that my military aide would gather and then destroy those classified materials—same goes in materials that I would receive at the White House.”
Roger A. Shrubber
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what the fuck?!?!...here's an idea...lets have a free turn in period, that lasts ten days...ANYONE with classified documents after that ten days is up, is going to go to at least jail for at least a week...just to make shit real.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Well Joe is relieved, it takes the heat and focus off him, but it won't help Donald at all! In fact it would be another nail in his conviction, examples of proper conduct in such matters. Mike was another guy who behaved professionally around secret documents and is himself another victim of a clerical error and bad transition procedures. His and Biden's cases are much different than Trump's, Trump fucked himself by being a stupid asshole and this is still further proof of it.
Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home
19,384 views Jan 24, 2023 #MikePence #Republicans #Politics
Classified documents have been found at former Vice President Mike Pence's Indiana home according to two letters NBC News has obtained from his legal team to the National Archives. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
Classified documents found at Pence's Indiana home
19,384 views Jan 24, 2023 #MikePence #Republicans #Politics
Classified documents have been found at former Vice President Mike Pence's Indiana home according to two letters NBC News has obtained from his legal team to the National Archives. NBC's Peter Alexander reports.
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Transitions and secret docs are something that will be dealt with, now that both parties are in shit over it, 2 to 1 for the dems though!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
“well, damn. I thought I gave all of them to Lindsey and Kevin. Musta missed a few.”
DIY-HP-LED
Well-Known Member
Search Mark Meadows home! The Trump WH was much sloppier than other administrations about secret docs and things in general, it was amateur's hour. Trump would/could not follow any rule procedure or plan regarding anything, including his own insurrection and autocoup.
I'll even bet a search of John McCain's estate would yield secret documents, and it could happen, since his wife hate's Trump's guts!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
steada McCain, the Thomases.
Big_Chungus
Active Member
Ruh roh.
Poor fella can barely form coherent sentences. Shame on his family for putting him up to a job he was clearly incapable of handling, and woe on the American public for actually voting for this decrepit POS.
Poor fella can barely form coherent sentences. Shame on his family for putting him up to a job he was clearly incapable of handling, and woe on the American public for actually voting for this decrepit POS.