Why do libertarians support Republicans?

Roger A. Shrubber

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A lot of people in Florida might be moving with rising sea levels and a real good hurricane. I understand it is already difficult to get mortgage insurance there and no insurance, means no mortgage which means no means no sale and plunging property values. That should happen long before the sea level actually rises to a high enough level to cause evacuation, but a good hurricane would finish them pretty quick.
The whole republican dream is imploding, and they're doing it to themselves.
I read about the rising cost of home owners insurance in florida and parts of texas and louisiana a couple of years ago, and it's just been getting worse since then. Magats move there because they don't have state income tax, only to end up living worse because they can't afford rent, a mortgage, or insurance. They have low unemployment rates, but shitty base pay, and high inflation. They're destroying their own educational systems, and a degree from a southern red state university will be about as valuable as a roll of toilet paper.
And all of this is before the indictments that i hope and pray are coming, arrive. That event (if it ever happens) will impact the republican party like a meteor storm, leaving gaping holes in the landscape, and twisted wreckage.
More republican detritus for the rest of the nation to clean up and repair. Per usual.
 

Fogdog

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Disney World is in Florida so they need to play by Florida's rules. They can always move if they want, :lol:
"if you don't like it, move". Have I ever said you seem very right wing authoritarian from the things you say?

If you don't like it, move. That's been said to me and sometimes I took that advice, but it was usually job related. I've fired my bosses. Several different times at different companies. But to pack up and leave my home is a different matter. I chose to stay and fight. And now, in Oregon, I'm hearing complaints from the very same demographic that told me to leave.

Don't like taxes? Want no regulations? Don't want to pay for other people's kid's education? Somalia beckons. Why don't they move?

The tides are against DeSantis and his elderly supporters. People don't have to move, they can stay and fight. In time, they will win. It will take maybe 15 years at the outside. Meanwhile, Florida is a nice place to live.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Meanwhile, Florida is a nice place to live.
no, it's not. It's a humidly rotting pile of compost, infested with snakes, spiders, rats, armadillos, iguanas, alligators, and cockroaches.
Housing prices are ridiculously high, insurance rates are outrageous, the healthcare system is severely under staffed, anywhere in the state worth visiting is buried in a sea of tourists, and it's run by a fascist governor who embraces white supremacists...
I know you were being sarcastic...But I'm not. :)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
no, it's not. It's a humidly rotting pile of compost, infested with snakes, spiders, rats, armadillos, iguanas, alligators, and cockroaches.
Housing prices are ridiculously high, insurance rates are outrageous, the healthcare system is severely under staffed, anywhere in the state worth visiting is buried in a sea of tourists, and it's run by a fascist governor who embraces white supremacists...
I know you were being sarcastic...But I'm not. :)
I think “compared to Somalia”

 

Antidote Man

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I've always understood their commonality is in doing away with government involvement in big business and trimming down social security.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I've always understood their commonality is in doing away with government involvement in big business and trimming down social security.
I think they have a lot more in common than that, it's more a matter of which one will stop rushing towards anarchy first? Because they'll be the ones revealing their fascist state first.
 

Fogdog

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I think they have a lot more in common than that, it's more a matter of which one will stop rushing towards anarchy first? Because they'll be the ones revealing their fascist state first.
anarchy is on the opposing side of fascism. One can't rust toward both anarchy and fascism. Fascists do create the sense of anarchy and chaos for propaganda purposes but they are all about imposing autocratic rule.

Think about the Reichstag fire and Jan 6. Both were perpetrated by fascists. Both tried to use it to impose martial law. Only one managed to carry it off.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
anarchy is on the opposing side of fascism. One can't rust toward both anarchy and fascism. Fascists do create the sense of anarchy and chaos for propaganda purposes but they are all about imposing autocratic rule.

Think about the Reichstag fire and Jan 6. Both were perpetrated by fascists. Both tried to use it to impose martial law. Only one managed to carry it off.
and it was a near thing, we are learning.
 

Fogdog

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no, it's not. It's a humidly rotting pile of compost, infested with snakes, spiders, rats, armadillos, iguanas, alligators, and cockroaches.
Housing prices are ridiculously high, insurance rates are outrageous, the healthcare system is severely under staffed, anywhere in the state worth visiting is buried in a sea of tourists, and it's run by a fascist governor who embraces white supremacists...
I know you were being sarcastic...But I'm not. :)
Florida has its upsides and its downsides. I can't say if I want to live there or not, I'd have to give it a try first. It has its attractions and detractions.

You live in a dark red state, you manage. I lived in Idaho for about ten years and got along well there. I was very happy while living there and moved only for the job but also liked Oregon. My vote was wasted in ID but the state had attractions for me. The only place one can be happy is between their ears. Keep that place in order and everything else is manageable.

That doesn't necessarily apply everywhere in the world and some people are born into situations that are not manageable but I am saying that yours is a first world complaint that isn't necessarily true.
 
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