First Photo Grow for 1 GPW

[DarkLordMelkor]

I skimmed the pics and my gut tells me your growth issue is related to watering habits. I know you said the pot is heavy when watered but the soil to me looks like it was never properly hydrated and evenly watered. Next time you start a photo I would suggest starting in smaller pots and transplant up. It will be easier to water.
Might not be the problem but I would suggest doing some reading on hydrophobic peat moss.
Good Luck!

Last pics before watering so its not wet. Yeah next time i will start with cups then transplant to bigger ones.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Actually growth is very obvious when i compard day by day pics. For example difference between yesterday night and today pic. If you check them yeah it's grows actually but they are very short. I think because of indica dominance.

That's grow rate after 24 hours between two pics.



maybe i have to raise light a bit for strech but i am going for scrog. I think it's better to have bushy and wide plants instead of tall plants. I don't know what's wrong. Or maybe nothing is wrong lol

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Today started to LST them. I check my calendar and it's 21th day today lol. Didn't LST little runt. But did to other two.



Lets see if they like it. With LST and scrog, they will be very short plants tho.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Today started to LST them. I check my calendar and it's 21th day today lol. Didn't LST little runt. But did to other two.

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Lets see if they like it. With LST and scrog, they will be very short plants tho.

That's the idea.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

That's the idea.

Thank you. I am really fan of LST. Little branches becomes huge and vigorous grow. 2 weeks later i will put scrog net.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Update time

Not end of week 4 yet. Day 27.

I stopped LST because i hurt some leaves. Anyway lower branches grew really good in few days. I will keep bending after that some leaves recover up. Also plant started to take off.

In my schedule i still have 3 weeks more veg. Next week i am planning to put scrog net and go for scrogging 2 weeks long. I hope i can fill whole area with even canopy. If not, i can go for one more week no problem. But more than 4 week it's gonna be hot in end of flowering. So max 4 weeks left for flowering

Bought TDS meter. Going to feed them with EC ratios not company chart. They look good to me actually. Except #3. It's runt.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Quick update for comparision

From day 7 to 28. They are very slow in my eyes but not in pics

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#2 from 7 to 28 days



#3 from 21 to 28 days Uploading photo is limited so no first 2 weeks. It's runt tho.



So in this week (week 5) i will put scrog net in and keep bending them right to left for better canopy. I can veg 21-28 more days from today (day 28 to 56 so 7 to 8 weeks total).

I hope i can fill 5x5 area in this time. Or/if they fill 5x5 faster than 4 weeks (70% of net) i will flip to 12/12.

They are still damn short tho. 12 to 14cm height, but 30cm wide.

No deficiency yet. I will start to feed them with 1.0-1.1EC with rhizotonic, flores and calmag.

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Quick update for comparision

From day 7 to 28. They are very slow in my eyes but not in pics

#1 - from 7 to 28 days

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#2 from 7 to 28 days

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#3 from 21 to 28 days Uploading photo is limited so no first 2 weeks. It's runt tho.

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So in this week (week 5) i will put scrog net in and keep bending them right to left for better canopy. I can veg 21-28 more days from today (day 28 to 56 so 7 to 8 weeks total).

I hope i can fill 5x5 area in this time. Or/if they fill 5x5 faster than 4 weeks (70% of net) i will flip to 12/12.

They are still damn short tho. 12 to 14cm height, but 30cm wide.

No deficiency yet. I will start to feed them with 1.0-1.1EC with rhizotonic, flores and calmag.

Light intensity, temp, humidity, play a part in growth rate. Do you have all that shit on point?

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Light intensity, temp, humidity, play a part in growth rate. Do you have all that shit on point?

pH: 6.3
EC: 1.1
Temp: 28C on / 20-22C off
Humidity: 30 to 50 depends on day
Light intensity: 1000w hanged 70cm from canopy. Luxmeter says 52K on canopy.

Humidity a bit problem. And it's not about growth rate i think. Developing 9th/10th set leaves. But plant is short (12-13cm except runt. Runt is 10cm as runt lol)

 

[YoZeitgeist]

Update time.

Day 8 since they pop.

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My growth bit stunted at day 3 to day 5. I don't know why but now they started to grow day by day. I watered them 5 days ago but soil is still wet. So looks like gonna water them once a week for a while. Grow room is no 26C lights on 20C lights off. Humidity bit low (30) even with humidifier. I think that's because my exhaust fan is pretty strong even with lowest level.

As you can see at third pic, my seedling is bit retarded lol. When i wake up at second day when first two leaves appears, i saw that half of one leaf is broken somehow. Very thin piece was holding it and i pulled it off. But still growing anyway.

Didn't give any nutes yet. I will start nutes when i see second set leaves fully grow. So probably 3-5 days later.

I saturated whole soil with 6.3 pH water before i plant them in and 3rd day after they fully break through soil i saturated whole soil again with 6.3 pH with around 20-25% run off. So as i said soil is still very wet after 5 days of watering. Looks like it will take 3-5 days to water again. Which means watering every 10 days for now. I know they won't drink much water now.

And somehow all of them looks like skewed. I will tie them. I feel like as it grows stem will break due to the weight.

I know they look like bit small for 8 days old plant. But what's your thoughts?

Update on my ladies since the last time I first posted on here, nice to see your babies flourishing as well.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Nice buds. They look good to me Happy smoking.

 

[YoZeitgeist]

Nice buds. They look good to me Happy smoking.

Thank you, Still a few weeks away it's only week 5 + 3 days of flower, dropping temps at night really bringing it their colors.

Have no idea what's up with so many ppl that leave laugh emojis but ‍ happy growing everyone and stay safe out here.

 

[YoZeitgeist]

Thank you, Still a few weeks away it's only week 5 + 3 days of flower, dropping temps at night really bringing it their colors.

Have no idea what's up with so many ppl that leave laugh emojis but ‍ happy growing everyone and stay safe out here.

Nope going to troll or offer up some advice on something I should do with my grow? I mean if it's too troll cool but helping others is what I thought this site was for.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

A little bit update.

Day 31 from breaking soil.

Yesterday i watered them with different ECs to see if they like it or not. 1.4 - 1.2 and 1.1 EC. Seems like all of them is happy lol. No signs of deficiency or burn yet. My runoff was between 4 and 6 EC. Then i learnt that checking soil EC is useless and stopped worrying about it. Also i put scrog net and started to bending them. Branches started to grow fast.

But they are still short af lol.

I have 18 days more before flipping. I hope i can fill 75% of net. If not i will keep vegging.



And that's overall looking

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

Before end of week 5 (day 35).

Today i defoliated huge fan leaves have contact with dirt and huge fan leaves which making bud sites shadowy. They look really bald to me now lol. Not removed all of them tho. Just maybe half or not even half. I think they have better airflow now.

Here is before and after pics with defoliated fan leaves I just realized that only using net is not scrogging. Because upper cola keeps growing and plant not spreading from sides. So topping is crucial. Anyway just trellising lol.

Am i too late for topping? I still have 2,5-3 weeks veg. I can top them but will be ok? What if i do it today (after defolation)? Too much stres for them? Should i wait anohter week to heal for topping? And i will be in week 6 if i wait. So after 6 week of veg is it good idea to top?

@Hollatchaboy @Nope_49595933949 @amneziaHaze

 

[Nope_49595933949]

You need to water better.

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

You need to water better.

Last time i used 5 liters of water. They are in 20L pot. EC 1.4 and pH 6.3. Around 1 LT run off. I did slurry test today and pH of soil was 7.0 and EC0.2

Watered 4 days ago and during defolation i lift pots and they are still heavy.

They are not drinking fast.

When comparing day by day pics there is really good growth rate but it's wide. They don't get taller. And number #3 is runt. It's always small. Other two is growing well.

I think genetics sux or i am doing something wrong.

 

[Nope_49595933949]

What's your lights on and off temps?

 

[DarkLordMelkor]

What's your lights on and off temps?

26C on 21C off mostly. Never been over 27 and never been lower than 20 since 5 weeks. RH is very relative. It's going between 30 and 50.

 

[Nope_49595933949]

I'd try to get both a little higher. Under LED you want to be low 80s lights on and not too far off during lights off.