All seeds the same???

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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its funny how people think seeds they find in a bag of bud are somehow far inferior than the ones they buy with the fancy names and descriptions .
even if the seed comes from a not so good bag of weed doesnt mean you cant grow super dank weed from it , with the right skills and growing conditions .
i was reading a post by someone the other day who was saying his weed wasnt very strong because it was grown from a seed he found in a really good bag of weed and bag seed never is very strong lol made me chuckle .
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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fdd2blk said:
but seriously, i could hand the top connoisseur a doobie and not tell them what it was. then let them smoke it and try to identify it. 9 times outta 10 they will get it wrong. close but wrong. :)
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But isn't it fun to do anyway? I agree that most people would get it wrong, but that's not the point. Accuracy in identifying strains isn't why we do it - we do it because it's a hobby that we admire and appreciate.
 
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fdd2blk

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jrh72582 said:
I understand what you're saying if weed is a means to an end - getting high! it all smokes and it all gets you high.

However, for the same reason that people like nice cigars and wine, people like to know the names of the buds they're smokin'. All wine gets you drunk, but connoisseurs must know the origins of the grapes and the conditions of growth. It's about much more than getting drunk. Drinking wine is no longer a means to an end but an end itself. We drink it for the flavor and for the genetics that certain strains of grapes exhibit. It's almost a lifestyle. That's how my friends and I smoke. We like to know origins and discuss tendencies of certain strains.

I do hold you opinion in high esteem, however. When it comes to growing and weed knowledge in general, you know more than I, so I respect you stance on the matter, but I like knowing the name of my bud! I don't think they're all the same, ya dig?
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i consider myself a connoisseur, but i think half of it is BS. most of the people i know that vend to the clubs change the name of their buds. they watch the market and see what people are demanding. they walk in with hindu kush and call it strawberry cough. it gets sold and LOVED as strawberry cough. it's the names i have issues with. you can't tell skunk #1 from skunk #27. :roll:

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/46319-fdds-flavor-week.html

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MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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fdd2blk said:
but seriously, i could hand the top connoisseur a doobie and not tell them what it was. then let them smoke it and try to identify it. 9 times outta 10 they will get it wrong. close but wrong. :)
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Agreed... There are only like 5 different tastes really...

Haze
Skunk
Fruit
Gasoline
Earth

That's pretty much it as far as I'm concerned...

I agree that there are way too many named strains out there to make sense, when I bred Silver Pearl to Somango, I was thinking "I wonder if this strain already exists?"

Silver Pearl is Skunk x NL x Early Girl... Crossed with Somango, which is Jack Herer x Skunk. I'm crossing the offspring with super skunk, which is supposed to be Skunk x Afghani... Who the hell knows if those genetics exist... :?

But true, I can't always identify random strains, but I know what they taste similar to. I can always guess the strains my friends have grown, because I've grown/smoked them all :bigjoint: and I know what the possible choices are...
 
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fdd2blk

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jrh72582 said:
But isn't it fun to do anyway? I agree that most people would get it wrong, but that's not the point. Accuracy in identifying strains isn't why we do it - we do it because it's a hobby that we admire and appreciate.
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you are missing the point. :mrgreen:bongsmiliebongsmilie
 
jrh72582

jrh72582

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fdd2blk said:
i consider myself a connoisseur, but i think half of it is BS. most of the people i know that vend to the clubs change the name of their buds. they watch the market and see what people are demanding. they walk in with hindu kush and call it strawberry cough. it gets sold and LOVED as strawberry cough. it's the names i have issues with. you can't tell skunk #1 from skunk #27. :roll:

https://www.rollitup.org/seed-strain-reviews/46319-fdds-flavor-week.html

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Okay - I feel ya. Like I said, there are many people who know much more than I and you're ultimately right. I am deluded to think that smoking something by a certain name means anything more than a name. I still like paying attention to it. Every year, my buddies and I go to Amsterdam and try new buds. Sometimes, we even take notes to remember what we smoked, so it's just something we do for fun. Based on what you said about growers changing the names when selling to dispensaries, they probably do the same in Amsterdam. So ultimately, names probably means very little to nothing. However, we'll still go to Amsterdam every year and appreciate the hell out of that named bud!!
 
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fdd2blk

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MrHowardMarks said:
Agreed... There are only like 5 different tastes really...

Haze
Skunk
Fruit
Gasoline
Earth

That's pretty much it as far as I'm concerned...

I agree that there are way too many named strains out there to make sense, when I bred Silver Pearl to Somango, I was thinking "I wonder if this strain already exists?"

Silver Pearl is Skunk x NL x Early Girl... Crossed with Somango, which is Jack Herer x Skunk. I'm crossing the offspring with super skunk, which is supposed to be Skunk x Afghani... Who the hell knows if those genetics exist... :?

But true, I can't always identify random strains, but I know what they taste similar to. I can always guess the strains my friends have grown, because I've grown/smoked them all :bigjoint: and I know what the possible choices are...
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you're going to end up with a skunk dominant strain. skunk #28 i guess. :mrgreen::mrgreen:


there are a few exceptions that do stand out.

cheese - which is just a strong skunk. i grew some hijack this year, one of the plants showed it's skunk genes. it smelled just like cheese. if you do the research cheese is just a rare skunk pheno that someone grabbed. in fact that's what ALL the clone only strains are. someone grows out a bunch of seeds and gets a random odd pheno. they keep it as a kother and rename it. it's still what it was. isn't it? :mrgreen:

purple - all of it tastes like dirt and flowers to me. last time i smoked it i focused on the "grape" aspect of the taste. i guess i get where they say it tastes like grapes. somewhat. but i go to the club and the top 7 strains are purple. purple cream, the purps, mendo purp, purple grand dad, grand daddy purple, purple erkel, erkel, purple dream, purple widow, i fucking saw purple/purple the other day. wtf is that? :wall:


i could go on but i think we get the point. :mrgreen:
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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I totally get the point, name is a part of bag appeal. I was never into the "purple" strains, I think it's a bunch of bullshit.

I guess living in Cali, you definately have seen the name game a lot at dispensaries...
 
7th1der

7th1der

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Well I'm on the opposite coast and I cant stand when people trynna sell little ass jars of KB and say its purple. Obviously thats a name that should look like it sounds, thats why I don't buy it. My question is when you grow out bag seed correctly, I know it looks better than the shwag bag it came from, but does it look like some $20/gram shit or does it look like some real good shwag? I'm currently growing some bangin ass bag seed now and if it looks better than the bag it came out of it's gonna look pretty expensive. lol
 
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firsttimegroww

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Iv heard people saying theres no OG kush seeds, but my friend that owns a clinic found some seeds in a big bad of OG, so im going to assume its og? haha
I dont understand why there cant be OG seeds, it can easily polinate itself or be polinated by another plant.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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The schwaggest schwag can be the dankest of dank... Well, unless it's some kind of hemp strain... So, yeah, som schwag could be grown and sold for 20 a gram, but only by douchebags who sell grams for 20 dollars... :mrgreen:

Skunk was originally a mexican columbian bagseed that had a good taste and yield, it was found in the 70's, brought from Cali to Amsterdam, and seed breeding, and genetics got it's start, people traveled across the world, Afghanistan, Thailand, collecting different strains of the same species (Cannabis) and bred them for there different characteristics, flavor, yield, potency etc.

Every strain can be lined back to a specific region. Without breeding, most of the hybrids would never had existed, seeing as specific regions have specific types of cannabis. It was man, or the breeders and connisuers who created the different strains around today.
 
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gangjababy

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7th1der said:
Well I'm on the opposite coast and I cant stand when people trynna sell little ass jars of KB and say its purple. Obviously thats a name that should look like it sounds, thats why I don't buy it. My question is when you grow out bag seed correctly, I know it looks better than the shwag bag it came from, but does it look like some $20/gram shit or does it look like some real good shwag? I'm currently growing some bangin ass bag seed now and if it looks better than the bag it came out of it's gonna look pretty expensive. lol
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I grew out some seeds from ok bag seeds and got some beasters/low dank. I was able to get rid of it for $50 an eighth, people were happy to buy it. It depends on how well you grow it. I used Botanicare Pro Grow and Bloom and got some killer nugs. The one thing I didn't like was that it took 11 weeks to finish and was a bit too much on the sativa side for me.
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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i recently grew one from bag seed that smelled like a peice of freshly cut quality parmisan cheeze.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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