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HGCC

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Back a loser and become a loser, the problem isn't China, its Xi and the CPP. How is this gonna look in a couple of months when the Russians are getting their asses whipped? Russia could rebuild its military after the war with Chinese help, but is it to China's advantage to do this? A weak Russia would allow them to take advantage in central and eastern Asia, a dissolving Russian federation would be to their advantage.

All the arms that China can give won't make up for a broken corrupt military that is structurally unsound and cannot change for as long as Russia is an autocracy.

I think we are wrong to try and bully China into compliance. Much better to offer them trade and such if they are willing to kick Russia to the curb. The US is very reliant on cheap Chinese goods, our markets would not handle the shock well. Joe Walmart would lose their fucking minds.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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As far as Crimea is concerned, the Ukrainians will cut it off and starve it out, most of the Russians who moved there will move back to Russia, and many have left having seen the writing on the wall. All those Ukrainians who were bombed out of their houses will be given their property and the ones left won't have jobs, Tartars will be invited back to their homeland. They will cut Crimea off and concentrate on destroying the Russian Army in the east and retaking all of their mainland back, many Russians will leave there too, but it's more about politics than ethnicity or even language. So, they might not take Crimea this year, but Vlad will have lots of equipment and troops trapped there while Ukraine kicks his ass on the mainland.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I think we are wrong to try and bully China into compliance. Much better to offer them trade and such if they are willing to kick Russia to the curb. The US is very reliant on cheap Chinese goods, our markets would not handle the shock well. Joe Walmart would lose their fucking minds.
They will cut a deal, Xi going to Moscow is leverage for one, Putin is a mere pawn now! :lol:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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biggest guess that would kill the black sea fleet, cause it won't have access to the port there.......
Why would Ukraine take Crimea right away? They can cut it off and take the rest of the mainland back while they starve and evacuate civilian useless mouths from there. Anything Vlad has there will be trapped there and useless as the fighting rages on the mainland and they will be desperate for the men and equipment sitting there. Once they drive them to the borders then blow up the rail bridges leading into Ukraine as far back into Russia as you can reach. Then if their railheads are a hundred miles inside their own borders you don't need to worry about an attack on your back as you liberate Crimea. Belarus could also fall before Crimea and all the shit and men trapped in Crimea will be useless there too, once Ukraine gets their country back, they are gonna cause Russia even more grief. If they beat them this spring with few loses of men and equipment they won't let up on the fuckers until Crimea is liberated. Trouble from Belarus to Georgia is coming when the Ukrainians give them their Soviet shit and other stuff they've been given when they standardize their army equipment and pass the mess of older systems on to others. While they starve out Crimea, they can sink Russian ships with drone ships, drone aircraft and rockets.

The Russian federation won't break up on its own, though it would anyway, they are gonna have a lot of help from various parties who want to break up Russia. Critical rail bridges blowing up in Siberia wouldn't be surprising and would tear Russia in half with a dozen republics in the east suddenly cut loose. China might not build them a replacement bridge, but could build their own railways into the regions at great speed, as we have seen!
 

BudmanTX

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Why would Ukraine take Crimea right away? They can cut it off and take the rest of the mainland back while they starve and evacuate civilian useless mouths from there. Anything Vlad has there will be trapped there and useless as the fighting rages on the mainland and they will be desperate for the men and equipment sitting there. Once they drive them to the borders then blow up the rail bridges leading into Ukraine as far back into Russia as you can reach. Then if their railheads are a hundred miles inside their own borders you don't need to worry about an attack on your back as you liberate Crimea. Belarus could also fall before Crimea and all the shit and men trapped in Crimea will be useless there too, once Ukraine gets their country back, they are gonna cause Russia even more grief. If they beat them this spring with few loses of men and equipment they won't let up on the fuckers until Crimea is liberated. Trouble from Belarus to Georgia is coming when the Ukrainians give them their Soviet shit and other stuff they've been given when they standardize their army equipment and pass the mess of older systems on to others. While they starve out Crimea, they can sink Russian ships with drone ships, drone aircraft and rockets.

The Russian federation won't break up on its own, though it would anyway, they are gonna have a lot of help from various parties who want to break up Russia. Critical rail bridges blowing up in Siberia wouldn't be surprising and would tear Russia in half with a dozen republics in the east suddenly cut loose. China might not build them a replacement bridge, but could build their own railways into the regions at great speed, as we have seen!
if you take out or take over Sevastopol,, the black sea fleet is useless...they will have no wear to port and refuel, the will be forced to move out and go up into the baltic ports for refuel and re fitting and re armament, other than some ports in the sea of azov and in the western part of the black sea there are no other ports that can hold. And if they move out( and i use "if" rather mildly) they won't be able to come back in cause of Turkey's closure of the straits.....

now if they do, that the next place to hit with drone ships etc.......
 

DIY-HP-LED

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War Spoils To War Assets | Ukraine Turns Captured Russian T-62 Tanks Into Armoured Recovery Vehicles

535,351 views Feb 14, 2023 #RussiaUkraineWar #GetCloserToTheNews #WorldNews
According to reports on social media, Ukrainians have been converting captured Russian tanks into armored engineering vehicles (ARVs). At least two T-62s have undergone such conversion. Experts believe that Ukrainians recognize the greater value of T-62-based recovery vehicles compared to T-62 tanks. As a larger battle of heavy weaponry like tanks is anticipated, having more ARVs would be beneficial for Ukraine, which entered the current war with too few.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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War Spoils To War Assets | Ukraine Turns Captured Russian T-62 Tanks Into Armoured Recovery Vehicles

535,351 views Feb 14, 2023 #RussiaUkraineWar #GetCloserToTheNews #WorldNews
According to reports on social media, Ukrainians have been converting captured Russian tanks into armored engineering vehicles (ARVs). At least two T-62s have undergone such conversion. Experts believe that Ukrainians recognize the greater value of T-62-based recovery vehicles compared to T-62 tanks. As a larger battle of heavy weaponry like tanks is anticipated, having more ARVs would be beneficial for Ukraine, which entered the current war with too few.
it's about all they're good for anymore, and they won't have to worry about ammo for them.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ron and Donald have one thing in common, having their noses shoved up Putin's ass. Maybe a majority of Americans will favor snatching defeat from the jaws of victory because the brown people are taking over! Ron would feel uncomfortable about beating up a fellow fascist, I'm sure your allies are impressed with Ron, and he will finish what Trump started, the destruction of your alliances, you will be left to face China on your own as will we. If Europe has to beat back Russia on their own or can't depend on Ron, their attitude towards America will change, as will ours.

Ron is playing politics with national security and your international alliances and a proto fascist like him won't go down well with other liberal democracies. Electing a republican as POTUS would be a reward for trying to destroy the country, just like they were rewarded in 2022 when they should have been wiped off the election map by decent people over J6.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Ron and Donald have one thing in common, having their noses shoved up Putin's ass. Maybe a majority of Americans will favor snatching defeat from the jaws of victory because the brown people are taking over! Ron would feel uncomfortable about beating up a fellow fascist, I'm sure your allies are impressed with Ron, and he will finish what Trump started, the destruction of your alliances, you will be left to face China on your own as will we. If Europe has to beat back Russia on their own or can't depend on Ron, their attitude towards America will change, as will ours.

Ron is playing politics with national security and your international alliances and a proto fascist like him won't go down well with other liberal democracies. Electing a republican as POTUS would be a reward for trying to destroy the country, just like they were rewarded in 2022 when they should have been wiped off the election map by decent people over J6.

that just goes to show how fucking ignorant desantis is about foreign policy, and how completely unqualified and unprepared he is to do the job.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Russians attack Bakhmut with infantry against Ukrainian self-propelled artillery

710 views Mar 14, 2023 #UATV #UATV_English #UkraineNews
The battle for Bakhmut has been going on for many months now, with Russia trying to break through Ukrainian defences. Every house is a fortification in Bakhmut, and the casualties of the occupiers are significant. At the same time, the occupying army suffers 'shell hunger' – fewer and fewer artillery shellings happen every day. No matter what, Ukrainian forces are still holding on to Bakhmut to defend the rest of Ukraine and exhaust Russian offensive capabilities.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There might be future trouble for Putin brewing here, these guys don't oppose the war, but are being failed by corrupt leadership at all levels. Many will return back to Russia defeated and resentful, especially if the Ukrainians pull a blitzkrieg on them and capture tens of thousands. The dead can be buried, but the living will be dangerous to Vlad and POWs can speak, the dead can't, they also can't stand trial for war crimes. Stalin sent his Soviet POWs to the Gulag or just killed them after the war, especially those who had a taste of the west.


Russia mobilises more troops as previous ones have already been killed in Ukraine

48,104 views Mar 13, 2023 #UATV #UATV_English #UkraineNews
Amid huge losses, the mobilisation of the population for the war against Ukraine continues in Russia. It is carried out in a covert mode. Prisoners are also recruited, Ukrainian intelligence and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported that at the end of February. Our correspondents have found out more about that.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Joe: DeSantis is talking about trashing the international order

8,550 views Mar 14, 2023 #Politics #Trump #DeSantis
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, a potential Republican presidential candidate, broke with many in his party Monday and said protecting Ukraine is not a "vital" national interest for the U.S. DeSantis called it a "territorial dispute" with Russia, reflecting a momentous shift within the party. The Morning Joe panel discusses DeSantis' and former President Trump's recent remarks about the war in Ukraine.
 

BudmanTX

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Ron and Donald have one thing in common, having their noses shoved up Putin's ass. Maybe a majority of Americans will favor snatching defeat from the jaws of victory because the brown people are taking over! Ron would feel uncomfortable about beating up a fellow fascist, I'm sure your allies are impressed with Ron, and he will finish what Trump started, the destruction of your alliances, you will be left to face China on your own as will we. If Europe has to beat back Russia on their own or can't depend on Ron, their attitude towards America will change, as will ours.

Ron is playing politics with national security and your international alliances and a proto fascist like him won't go down well with other liberal democracies. Electing a republican as POTUS would be a reward for trying to destroy the country, just like they were rewarded in 2022 when they should have been wiped off the election map by decent people over J6.

Looks like ol Ron has been bought by the Russians, like i didn't see that coming.....
 
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