Examples of Democratic Party leadership

PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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DIY-HP-LED said:
They forgot to mention covid, this is what morons swallow. Joe came into office grabbed the bull by the nuts and got vaccines distributed that knocked covid down, until it mutated later on causing far less death and disease. As joe got the vaccine distributed folks started to go to work and go out, they wanted things again including gas for their cars to go places again. All the supply chains were shut down or curtailed along with international trade, carbon emissions for the planet went way down. Businesses and people had to go on the dole to survive for over a year.

Sure, you'll get inflation and low unemployment as millions never returned to work and just retired, but that's not Biden's fault. Inflation is global in nature and blame its continuance on Putin and his war driving food prices up, Joe already tamed fuel prices which were high when Russia started its war.

Cherry picked statistics taken out of context with lies of omission, these people are liars, and this is an example of lying and deception used to fool fools.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635558810000474112
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You do know who created Operation Warp Speed correct, lol? You're favorite president Donald Trump.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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PadawanWarrior said:
You do know who created Operation Warp Speed correct, lol? You're favorite president Donald Trump.
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From what I can gather it didn't do too much but spread some money around, he had no plan to distribute vaccines, he was busy trying to destroy America with a coup. As Tucker said, there is nothing they can salvage from the Trump years, they were a failure at every level, no positives, Tuck speaks the truth in private, but lies to the suckers.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
They forgot to mention covid, this is what morons swallow. Joe came into office grabbed the bull by the nuts and got vaccines distributed that knocked covid down, until it mutated later on causing far less death and disease. As joe got the vaccine distributed folks started to go to work and go out, they wanted things again including gas for their cars to go places again. All the supply chains were shut down or curtailed along with international trade, carbon emissions for the planet went way down. Businesses and people had to go on the dole to survive for over a year.

Sure, you'll get inflation and low unemployment as millions never returned to work and just retired, but that's not Biden's fault. Inflation is global in nature and blame its continuance on Putin and his war driving food prices up, Joe already tamed fuel prices which were high when Russia started its war.

Cherry picked statistics taken out of context with lies of omission, these people are liars, and this is an example of lying and deception used to fool fools.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1635558810000474112
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fucking moron doesn't realize that it takes months if not years for what happens today to cause all the shit it's going to cause...or just decided not to mention that...
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
DIY-HP-LED said:
From what I can gather it didn't do too much but spread some money around, he had no plan to distribute vaccines, he was busy trying to destroy America with a coup. As Tucker said, there is nothing they can salvage from the Trump years, they were a failure at every level, no positives, Tuck speaks the truth in private, but lies to the suckers.
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OWS was a slogan. That man designed a slogan to conceal his obstruction of the real work.

apnews.com

AP FACT CHECK: Trump distorts on vaccine, state distribution

President Donald Trump is wrongly taking full credit for Pfizer's announcement that its COVID-19 vaccine was robustly successful. That's according to an AP Fact Check.
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Herb & Suds

Herb & Suds

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PadawanWarrior said:
What are you talking about, the shakes? I don't take that stuff. And that's not a reliable source for one. The dude had Lyme disease for years and almost died last year from heart failure. He has a family history or heart issues and sounds like a bigger dude.
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A bunch of trumpets we’re claiming the vax gave them the tremors lol
 
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oldsilvertip55

oldsilvertip55

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Fogdog said:
But really, I started this thread to show another and better Democratic value on display: the ability to have a debate and discuss how to fix our broken Senate.

www.politico.com

Manchin wants to make filibuster 'painful' to use

The pivotal West Virginia Democrat is also open to using budget reconciliation to pass voting reforms.
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Sen. Joe Manchin said Sunday he is open to altering the Senate filibuster to make it more “painful” for the minority party to wield, while reiterating his opposition to ending the procedural hurdle altogether.

“The filibuster should be painful, it really should be painful and we've made it more comfortable over the years,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.” “Maybe it has to be more painful.”

Manchin (D-W.Va.) has previously supported efforts to require senators to filibuster by talking on the chamber floor in order to hold up a bill, an idea he raised on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“If you want to make it a little bit more painful, make him stand there and talk,” Manchin said. “I'm willing to look at any way we can, but I'm not willing to take away the involvement of the minority.”

Joe Manchin. I'd hate him if he were my Senator. But he is not. He's West Virginia's guy. Most West Virginians love him. That's democracy for you. I expect my Senators (Wyden and Merkley) to work with him.

Prior to 1990's, the filibuster was rarely used. Today, it's the go-to tool of Republicans whenever they want to stop something. They made the filibuster easy to use -- a Senator simply checks off a box on a computer screen and all by himself he can stop a bill from proceeding through the senate. Some Democrats want to eliminate the filibuster altogether. Manchin supports a limited filibuster because he believes those in the political minority should have a voice in the making of our laws. He's willing to make changes but not eliminate it. In other words, he wants a debate about what to do and why. Democrats are listening and reacting to this by having a discussion. Such a different reaction compared to what Trump's Republicans did when they held power.

Despite high sounding words about how the filibuster protects the rights of a minority, it has mostly been used to stop civil rights legislation.

Two of the most famous uses of the movie-version filibuster mentioned above were by the segregationist senator Strom Thurmond, who in 1957 held the Senate floor for more than 24 hours in an attempt to block civil rights legislation – and who mounted a sequel filibuster to sequel legislation in 1964.

“For generations, the filibuster was used as a tool to block progress on racial justice,” Senator Elizabeth Warren, who is eager to bin the filibuster, told the National Action Network in 2019. “And in recent years, it’s been used by the far right as a tool to block progress on everything.”

So, yeah, saying the filibuster is needed to protect democracy and freedom is bullshit.

Republicans -- Trump's Republicans -- only care about defeating Democrats. They will use the filibuster to prevent Joe Biden and Democrats from fulfilling promises to properly manage the US's recovery from the Covid epidemic and when the epidemic is over, to bring back jobs lost due to the epidemic. To them, its all about power. Stop Democrats from helping people so they can take away the Senate or the House in 2022. One could say that Republicans are why we need to end the filibuster.

With GOP partisan use of the filibuster hanging as a threat to Democratic lawmakers who are trying to get help to where it is needed in this disaster.
With GOP partisan use of the filibuster as a tool to re-take power in Washington.
With GOP attempting to overthrow the US government just weeks away as an example of why we can't let that happen.

With all that hanging as a threat, Democrats are engaging in a debate about the filibuster, what it's good for and how to keep what's best while getting rid of the bad. Despite a very real threat from Republicans to dismantle our democracy if they ever gain power again. Democrats are having a thoughtful discussion on what is best for this country and how to make progress while protecting our democracy.

That is leadership.
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everyone of them(both parties) should leave the gun laws alone,if they want to stay in office.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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oldsilvertip55 said:
everyone of them(both parties) should leave the gun laws alone,if they want to stay in office.
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The times are against you silver. Most people favor rational gun sales regulations and other sane laws. It's not really about guns but saving lives.

Regarding to your response to my post. A distinguishing difference between Democrats and today's MAGA GOP is shown by your threat when I called for debate and discussion. Your argument is just a political threat and not based reason. That's where you and the gun lobby are now. You gave no good reason for keeping gun laws the way they are. It's a concession of defeat.
 
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cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Fogdog said:
The times are against you silver. Most people favor rational gun sales regulations and other sane laws. It's not really about guns but saving lives.

Regarding to your response to my post. A distinguishing difference between Democrats and today's MAGA GOP is shown by your threat when I called for debate and discussion. Your argument is just a political one and not based good reasons. That's where you and the gun lobby are now. You gave no good reason for keeping gun laws the way they are. It's a concession of defeat.
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The gun show loophole is an open wound, mostly in red states.
 
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