What Would an Evangelical Christian Country Be Like

Bagginski

Bagginski

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bursto said:
whats ridiculous is someone who is trying to add up piles of cow shit to prove god doesn't exist

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As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”.

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.
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Pliny & Tacitus were both right, but woefully short of the mark; forward to the present day, christians are excessively unlikeable, insisting as they do that their cartoon ‘reality’ should take precedence over all other considerations & the rest of us should just let them (*you*) run things how they (you) like …living with the autistic as I do, I ASSURE you that none of this is any different from a simple inability to accommodate the realities of existence. If your gawd is worth anything, it’s probably trying to tell you the same thing right now.

So, explain please how a Palestinian Jew in the 1st Century AD got adopted into a noble Roman family…*AND* became THE FIRST REFERENCE to Cheeses in history, from whom ALL ELSE flows…and HOW NONE OF THAT IS IN ANY WAY SUSPICIOUS…you bein’ so smart ‘n’ all. Show us your chops, chief: you got ‘em, right?
 
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Bagginski

Bagginski

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i've never denied that a man named jesus existed at the time he was supposed to have existed...i'm denying that he was in any way a devine being, anything more than a man who had a cult, albeit a benign one.
I'm not actually an atheist, i'm not sure if a deity exists or not, but I'm convinced that not one single religion that exists today has anyone's best interests at heart except their own, and that the world would be a better, more peaceful place without any of them.
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100% true: *I* am the one saying that the entire thing was a con FROM THE BEGINNING

FROM THE BEGINNING

I, too, am not an ‘atheist’; I am likewise *not* a ‘theist’ (typing that, I had to delete ‘Christian’ twice & ‘Muslim’ once…damn you, autocorrect!). I believe in divinity as existent in the world; I do not believe in ‘gods’ except as knots of meaning & significance in a constantly changing pattern. Another way of saying it is, ‘your shit won’t fly w/ me’. Stop parroting, step out of the box, and say something meaningful.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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Bagginski said:
100% true: *I* am the one saying that the entire thing was a con FROM THE BEGINNING

FROM THE BEGINNING
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I think perhaps it was like a virus. It started on it's own, and unscrupulous people perpetuated the myths, compounded and combined them, let them mutate on their own, gerrymandered them, lied, omitted, misinformed, and mislead, to gain and maintain power.
Sound like any right wing political parties we all know?
 
Bagginski

Bagginski

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
I think perhaps it was like a virus. It started on it's own, and unscrupulous people perpetuated the myths, compounded and combined them, let them mutate on their own, gerrymandered them, lied, omitted, misinformed, and mislead, to gain and maintain power.
Sound like any right wing political parties we all know?
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Well, the EMPIRE was crumbling, and some bright child figured a way to do likewise with priests instead of soldiers (sort of)…shoring up a failing empire - that’s a thing, right?
 
Bagginski

Bagginski

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
The Word Of Cheeses... :shock:
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My godson…came home from school one day, and asked his mom, “do we believe in Cheeses?”
“Why do you ask?” says Mom
“One of the girls in the next building wanted to know if we believe in Cheeses….”
“What did you tell her.”
(Brightening considerably) “I told her I believe in Six Flags!”

We all agreed that was a fine answer, and that he had done well.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Bagginski said:
My godson…came home from school one day, and asked his mom, “do we believe in Cheeses?”
“Why do you ask?” says Mom
“One of the girls in the next building wanted to know if we believe in Cheeses….”
“What did you tell her.”
(Brightening considerably) “I told her I believe in Six Flags!”

We all agreed that was a fine answer, and that he had done well.
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she probably told her mother that he believes in Six Flags before Marriage.
 
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