Small buds: Week 5 of flower

[PopAndSonGrows]

Get back to 800 PPFD, lower the lights.

 

[BasilRuys]

Also if your temps are 23c how come the plant looks more like it's heat/light stressed? Looks like your light is pretty high above the canopy. What's the deal with that?

That’s because I did have the light too close around 4 days ago. Was about 25cm then, now it’s around 40.

Looks like she grows more leaves then flowers. I’ve already schwazzed her twice (once day 1, once day 20), but she seems to grow them back in a couple of days. Maybe she’s vegging again, causing the delay? I really don’t know alot about this, but she shouldn’t have light leaks or anything…
She’s in a MarsHydro 2x2, with both side vents open, maybe they let enough light in to stunt growth?

Here are some pics from today, leaves still look like they’re suffering from light stress.

 

[weedstoner420]

The way the new growth is coming in is not stacking. Personally I would cut losses and not waste another second on her. This looks like another 8 weeks of suffering.

Edit: it does look like some of the branches are developing more regularly than the last pic

I agree with this ^^^ the structure and growth pattern just looks off, especially in the last pic...

Have you checked your timer to make sure it's actually 12/12, with no interruptions in the dark period?

 

[Antidote Man]

5.7 to 6.0 run off

 

[BasilRuys]

I agree with this ^^^ the structure and growth pattern just looks off, especially in the last pic...

Have you checked your timer to make sure it's actually 12/12, with no interruptions in the dark period?

Shoud be good, but I’ll double check later. So it does look like she’s vegging again? Can she be saved if thats the case?

5.7 to 6.0 run off

I’ll try that, thanks for the reply

 

[lusidghost]

That’s because I did have the light too close around 4 days ago. Was about 25cm then, now it’s around 40.

Looks like she grows more leaves then flowers. I’ve already schwazzed her twice (once day 1, once day 20), but she seems to grow them back in a couple of days. Maybe she’s vegging again, causing the delay? I really don’t know alot about this, but she shouldn’t have light leaks or anything…
She’s in a MarsHydro 2x2, with both side vents open, maybe they let enough light in to stunt growth?

Here are some pics from today, leaves still look like they’re suffering from light stress.
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That looks like too much light to me.

 

[Killaki]

That’s because I did have the light too close around 4 days ago. Was about 25cm then, now it’s around 40.

Looks like she grows more leaves then flowers. I’ve already schwazzed her twice (once day 1, once day 20), but she seems to grow them back in a couple of days. Maybe she’s vegging again, causing the delay? I really don’t know alot about this, but she shouldn’t have light leaks or anything…
She’s in a MarsHydro 2x2, with both side vents open, maybe they let enough light in to stunt growth?

Here are some pics from today, leaves still look like they’re suffering from light stress.
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Ah yep. That's why. She's been getting blasted by your lights being too close. She'll take time to recover. Damn week 5 is pretty deep to just now catch on to that, maybe be a real grind to finish her.

 

[weedstoner420]

Shoud be good, but I’ll double check later. So it does look like she’s vegging again? Can she be saved if thats the case?



I’ll try that, thanks for the reply

It can be saved if it's re-vegging but will take time.

To me it just looks like the flowers are not forming "normally," at least not when the leaves and overall plant appearance are generally healthy (not perfect but not terrible by any stretch). I was thinking maybe it's on more like 14/10 or something where the hormones to trigger flower are not building up quite enough to sustain normal flowering...

 

[ALPHA.GanjaGuy]

When your lights are off is it light in the tent? looks to me to be too much n and reveg going on.

You mention two vents are open, do they allow light in when it is supposed to be lights out for the plants?

 

[BasilRuys]

When your lights are off is it light in the tent? looks to me to be too much n and reveg going on.

You mention two vents are open, do they allow light in when it is supposed to be lights out for the plants?

Sure they do, just two pieces of mesh on the sodes of the tent which you can open up. Don’t know what light would enter tho… Tent is inside a small laundry room, motion detection lights and a small window. The dark period is also at night, so no light coming through the window…

Ah yep. That's why. She's been getting blasted by your lights being too close. She'll take time to recover. Damn week 5 is pretty deep to just now catch on to that, maybe be a real grind to finish her.

So light stress can/will stall growth?
Is it too late to get a decent harvest? Or is the bud development just kinda stalled, and it’ll catch up later?

It can be saved if it's re-vegging but will take time.

To me it just looks like the flowers are not forming "normally," at least not when the leaves and overall plant appearance are generally healthy (not perfect but not terrible by any stretch). I was thinking maybe it's on more like 14/10 or something where the hormones to trigger flower are not building up quite enough to sustain normal flowering...

She’s just on a standard 12/12. If she get’s any light at all during the dark period, its really not a lot and for very short periods.

Thanks again for the help guys

 

[weedstoner420]

Sure they do, just two pieces of mesh on the sodes of the tent which you can open up. Don’t know what light would enter tho… Tent is inside a small laundry room, motion detection lights and a small window. The dark period is also at night, so no light coming through the window…


So light stress can/will stall growth?
Is it too late to get a decent harvest? Or is the bud development just kinda stalled, and it’ll catch up later?


She’s just on a standard 12/12. If she get’s any light at all during the dark period, its really not a lot and for very short periods.

Thanks again for the help guys

Honestly 40 days in, pistils are starting to turn brown, and not in the "looks pollinated" way, it might finish in the normal 10-12 weeks but your yield will probably be tiny. Up to you what to do, but if it were me I'd be thinking of starting over... Maybe if you have a separate veg or seedling area you can start new seeds and have a few weeks to make up your mind while they're getting started...

 

[BasilRuys]

Honestly 40 days in, pistils are starting to turn brown, and not in the "looks pollinated" way, it might finish in the normal 10-12 weeks but your yield will probably be tiny. Up to you what to do, but if it were me I'd be thinking of starting over... Maybe if you have a separate veg or seedling area you can start new seeds and have a few weeks to make up your mind while they're getting started...

Alright, just ordered 3 autos from fastbuds. Im going to pot them in 3 gallon pots with an organic fertiliser soil/coco mix. That way I won’t have to worry about npk, light leaks or bad phenos (at least not as much).
I’ll probably still let her finish before starting the new run though, don’t want to waste that 3 month veg.

Do you recommend upgrading my fixture as well? Been looking at a 300w bar style LED by Spiderfarmer, but it’s a little pricey for me.
I’ll only do it if y’all think the fixture I have now is not strong enough…

Again, I really appreciate the support and advice from you guys!

 

[weedstoner420]

Alright, just ordered 3 autos from fastbuds. Im going to pot them in 3 gallon pots with an organic fertiliser soil/coco mix. That way I won’t have to worry about npk, light leaks or bad phenos (at least not as much).
I’ll probably still let her finish before starting the new run though, don’t want to waste that 3 month veg.

Do you recommend upgrading my fixture as well? Been looking at a 300w bar style LED by Spiderfarmer, but it’s a little pricey for me.
I’ll only do it if y’all think the fixture I have now is not strong enough…

Again, I really appreciate the support and advice from you guys!

150 watts is probably good for that size tent. I guess the "they say" is 35 watts per square foot for LED. Maybe if you could get a single fixture of that wattage instead of using two different ones it would be a little better, but if you only have 4 feet of headroom I wouldn't try increasing the total wattage

 

[BasilRuys]

150 watts is probably good for that size tent. I guess the "they say" is 35 watts per square foot for LED. Maybe if you could get a single fixture of that wattage instead of using two different ones it would be a little better, but if you only have 4 feet of headroom I wouldn't try increasing the total wattage

Great, thanks! Just added 2 30w LED bars to replace the blurple 50w, giving me a total of 160w of full spectrum light. And I can still add that 50w grow light for flower if I’d neet it. Hope that’ll be enough to flower those 3 autos.