Reveg vs replace.

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VaSmile

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I got 2 lady's in my green house about a month from harvest. These are the first plants I will harvest of these strains so idk how much I like them yet. how should I determine if I should reveg them or chop them and start new plants. Would on choice be beneficial in terms of total yeild or quality over the other. This is my first outdoor grow.
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Asking specifically about my caramel apple fritters, pretty sure I'm going to chop the thorsberry
 
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ALPHA.GanjaGuy

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If you chop you chop the entire plant, if you reveg you need to leave some behind to reveg.

To decide if you want to reveg is a tough question and is one reason many people take clones before flowering so they have a cut in case they love the strain..

Otherwise you if you think you will want to keep her at this point reveg is your only option. You could harvest and leave some behind to reveg, then after drying and sampling your bud decide if you want to continue the reveg or not.
 
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VaSmile

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Genetic preservation is not the top concern atm.
More intrested if a reveg vs restart will significantly impact
Ease of care
Final yield
Quality of finished product.
Its my first year and so far my habit/production seam to be on a just in time balance so yield dose matter until I'm able to build up a better stock pile
 
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Not so much as don't care as it's just not my top intrest and I'm not at risk of losing the strain with this one plant. I have more seed. There is another specimen at a collaborators house indoors that's not blooming yet. I haven't grown enough plants yet to take one and say "this one is special and must be preserved" my personal goals are more about verity trying to grow as many different strains as I can. The property owner where my green house is doesn't care about anything as long as he's getting nearly free weed. I was just wounding if there was a utilitarian perpuse to revegging. Thinking along the lines that an established plant would yield better then a younger one since it doesn't have to spend energy on stalk growth or be more durable to environmental changes. If neither of those are true or it is a more difficult care regiment then caring for saplings then I'll probably never untalize the practice unless va changes is plant limit
 
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VaSmile said:
Not so much as don't care as it's just not my top intrest and I'm not at risk of losing the strain with this one plant. I have more seed. There is another specimen at a collaborators house indoors that's not blooming yet. I haven't grown enough plants yet to take one and say "this one is special and must be preserved" my personal goals are more about verity trying to grow as many different strains as I can. The property owner where my green house is doesn't care about anything as long as he's getting nearly free weed. I was just wounding if there was a utilitarian perpuse to revegging. Thinking along the lines that an established plant would yield better then a younger one since it doesn't have to spend energy on stalk growth or be more durable to environmental changes. If neither of those are true or it is a more difficult care regiment then caring for saplings then I'll probably never untalize the practice unless va changes is plant limit
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You will never grow that same plant again unless you reveg, or took clones. Every plant is different from seed.
I don't care if Jesus is the breeder. It won't be a 100% match like a clone.
If it's your first grow.. try to reveg it, and do better. Why? because we always do better after we get our feet wet.
 
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My personal experience, just generally speaking overall:

Seed grown plants are heartier, more resilient and way less prone to pests and disease than clones. Also, every seed you pop is a real chance at a "GOLDEN TICKET", you could find that next (enter famous strain here) !! I personally enjoy finding and comparing different phenotypes within strains.
 
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VaSmile

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I'm not completely green to this but I did maybe 3 cycles 10years ago under the direction of an opioid addict. I got my set up in September and have pulled down 4 autos and 2 photos. Everything has been good smoke so far, nothing has wowed me with any other quality. The plant in question smells good, I like the structure(fewer thicker branches not a shit load of leaf) and has been blooming in a unheated greenhouse for a month. Ok y'all convinced me + I don't wanna make buck sad I'll keep her at least for the summer
 
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VaSmile

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Today is harvest daytime!:weed:
The subject of this ponderance is a Carmel apple fritters from captin red beard. Reasons I want to keep her.
She smells like grandma's apple pie
Love her growth structure
Despite facing extream environmental conditions during her bloom she showed no signs of herming and ripened fullying in line with her advertised time (60days) though my yeild obviously suffered.
Everything else I got going is sativa dom.
 

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VaSmile said:
Dod I do it right? Can I take more off? Should I cut back the empty branches? How long should she have to recover before I uppot?
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There really isn't a right or wrong way. Just leave some stuff on her like you did, and slam her under 24hr light, with some light veg nutes. Just keep on keeping on until you see some weird leaf growth comming from the buds, or nodes. That's usually when I up pot it into something slightly bigger and it usually takes off after that. You're looking at a solid month or two before you get it started on the right track again.
Ps that plant was no where near ready to chop. Weeks to go still.
 
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VaSmile

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Jjgrow420 said:
There really isn't a right or wrong way. Just leave some stuff on her like you did, and slam her under 24hr light, with some light veg nutes. Just keep on keeping on until you see some weird leaf growth comming from the buds, or nodes. That's usually when I up pot it into something slightly bigger and it usually takes off after that. You're looking at a solid month or two before you get it started on the right track again.
Ps that plant was no where near ready to chop. Weeks to go still.
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Dose it really need 24? I was hoping to keep her outdoors we I'll get 14.5hr daylight tomorrow. We did light depo the past month with any timing errors on the side of less light and she spent 48hrs in darkness before harvest if any of that makes a difference
 
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ALPHA.GanjaGuy

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She was grown in a 1gal as a breeding project, topped out around 3ft and full of seeds, I cut her down to what you see and left a few lowers for reveg. I’ll take a picture of her profile view later when I’m back home..
But as @Jjgrow420 said there’s not really a right or wrong.. basically I looked at it as the more you leave the greater chance you have for success. I had two others fail and a third that is way behind this one and I left about the same amount of plant behind on each.
 
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VaSmile

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Jjgrow420 said:
No. It doesn't NEED 24. It just helps it kick faster
48hrs dark is broscience
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A lot of things I do are probably bro science, I'm just running the program I was taught for now. I know it and I know it works. I know there are many ways to skin a cat and that my mentor was not the best weed grower on the planet (we did grow damn good weed though) which is why I am here. I intend to be doing a lot of things differently as habit 2 years from now but I'm not gonna change anything til I have a very high level of confidence formed by 1st hand evidence
 
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BrassNwood

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VaSmile said:
Dose it really need 24? I was hoping to keep her outdoors we I'll get 14.5hr daylight tomorrow. We did light depo the past month with any timing errors on the side of less light and she spent 48hrs in darkness before harvest if any of that makes a difference
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She will reveg on her own under natural outside lighting in summer. As the oid bud sites explode with a dozen new shoots each start thinning them down to get her in a more natural shape as left untrimmed a reveg plant is a huge thousand headed medusa of a plant.
 
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