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Drop That Sound

Drop That Sound

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You can see eclipses happening, with both the sun and moon at the same time, which pretty much destroys the heliocentric theory model, due to the impossible geometry involved. Then.. get this.. lol. To explain how these rare "selenelions" work, the globers basically use the same logic and reasoning that "flatties" use to explain why things appear to go over the horizon/etc, and apply the same kinds of theories to explain why the sun and moon can both be in the sky at the same time & still see a visible eclipse. They say it doesn't work that way, and then say it does, but only during super rare events like that?
 
curious2garden

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I'll just leave this here:

NASA Scientific Visualization Studio | The Moon's Rotation

The Moon rotates as it orbits the Earth. The radial yellow line marks the 0° longitude meridian on the Moon. || orbit.0175_print.jpg (1024x576) [18.1 KB] || orbit.0175_searchweb.png (320x180) [9.5 KB] || orbit.0175_thm.png (80x40) [1.5 KB] || orbit_1080p30.mp4 (1920x1080) [4.4 MB] ||...
svs.gsfc.nasa.gov svs.gsfc.nasa.gov
 
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curious2garden said:
I'll just leave this here:

NASA Scientific Visualization Studio | The Moon's Rotation

The Moon rotates as it orbits the Earth. The radial yellow line marks the 0° longitude meridian on the Moon. || orbit.0175_print.jpg (1024x576) [18.1 KB] || orbit.0175_searchweb.png (320x180) [9.5 KB] || orbit.0175_thm.png (80x40) [1.5 KB] || orbit_1080p30.mp4 (1920x1080) [4.4 MB] ||...
svs.gsfc.nasa.gov svs.gsfc.nasa.gov
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Can you find a gif or animated visual representation of a horiontal eclipse aka selenelion happening? Me neither..
 
Hollatchaboy

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Drop That Sound said:
If there was a pendulum that could prove the earth was spinning, that also means that they could tune a gyro to stay completely stationary, and harness the spin directly from the earth using magnets and coils. I don't care how big of a vacuum tube or space needed either, they should be able to do it. They could power everything with the spin of the earth, while using barely any of that energy to keep the gyro spinning, if the revolving earth theory were actually true. The Foucalt pendulum would be part of the mechanisms that keeps it stabilized, basically reverse engineered.. Imagine a giant gear connected to the earth, as big as you want, held in place by super magnets. The soviets had top secret programs in the 70s to harness earths spinning energy, and failed though. Or did they? Either they are already doing it secretly (with underground gyro generators the size of CERN, etc).. and lying to us... or, the fact no one seems to be able to do it yet proves the earth doesn't spin, and they are still lying to us either way.

Seriously though, your gonna believe some experiment from the 1850s that needed to be cranked up by hand, that they say any high school kid can perform, yet no one ever really can? You try to buy an expensive gyro or any parts to build one, and all the manufacturers of the parts state it isn't sensitive enough to detect the earths spin, yet some guy could do it in the 1800s from scratch?
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Set a camera to maximum exposure at night and watch the stars revolve.
 
Hollatchaboy

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buckaclark said:
When can we see the other side?
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You can. As soon as you fly there. From earth, most likely you'll never see it......"The time it takes for the Moon to rotate once on its axis is equal to the time it takes for the Moon to orbit once around Earth. This keeps the same side of the Moon facing towards Earth throughout the month."
 
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waterproof808 said:
when the speed of its rotation starts to differ from the speed of its orbit around earth.
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Don't worry, china is gonna bring back a sample as proof that the far side even exist. :lol:

They won't accidentally lose the samples like NASA did either this time, haha. They'll be sure to take super grainy not high res photos for you of the probe landing, but also forget to take pics of the other famous landing sites on the way out, because that isn't important to understanding how to build new moon bases on the dark side. Like, why would you wanna know how the things we left have held up on the surface for so long? Oh, and no one is allowed to fly within 80 miles of them, because NASA owns that part of the moon. Even though we have high tech spy cams supposedly orbiting outer earth space that can see your nose hairs, but we can't seem to hack the go pro's that cost billions of dollars more to see the rover and flag as they fly just over the no fly zone on all the latest moon missions..
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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Drop That Sound said:

Revolve around the inside of a dome, like this?
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How big is this dome? How come we can't see it? I was able to see every other dome I've ever been in. Just isn't logical. The amount of energy it would take to move a dome the size, im guessing you're trying to suggest, is beyond the scope of our technology.
 
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