Plants won't flip

skinnys

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It's been 9 days since I flipped into 12/12, I've actually increased it to 10/14(10h on) 6 days ago.
They just won't flip?
I've cooled down the tent a little more to simulate fall.
What else can I do? Should I just wait?

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deerman12

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It's been 9 days since I flipped into 12/12, I've actually increased it to 10/14(10h on) 6 days ago.
They just won't flip?
I've cooled down the tent a little more to simulate fall.
What else can I do? Should I just wait?

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I have been growing autos. May I ask how many days old these plants are before you flipped them? I am trying to learn more about the photo period. Your plants look healthy.
 

skinnys

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I have been growing autos. May I ask how many days old these plants are before you flipped them? I am trying to learn more about the photo period. Your plants look healthy.
8 weeks old before flipping. In retrospect I think I waited a bit too long, someone said they won't get that much bigger anyway. Don't quote me on that though.
I'm doing autos next :-)

Btw, I've got PM on my floor and reflector, but not on the plants as far as I can tell. Will this be a problem? I clean it off regularly but it comes back quickly. My humidity went way past 60% sometimes.
 

deerman12

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8 weeks old before flipping. In retrospect I think I waited a bit too long, someone said they won't get that much bigger anyway. Don't quote me on that though.
I'm doing autos next :-)
My tent is short. My friend says his photos grow in height like wildfire for 2-3 weeks after flowering starts. I have a Do Si Dos that is 2-3 weeks from harvest it is 46 inches tall, I am stressing about light burn. I can't raise the light any more. I have to better stress training next time. I was afraid I would kill them so I did not stress strain them much. Another rookie mistake:wall:
 

skinnys

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My tent is short. My friend says his photos grow in height like wildfire for 2-3 weeks after flowering starts. I have a Do Si Dos that is 2-3 weeks from harvest it is 46 inches tall, I am stressing about light burn. I can't raise the light any more. I have to better stress training next time. I was afraid I would kill them so I did not stress strain them much. Another rookie mistake:wall:
I'm guessing you didn't top it?
I've topped both of mine, the one on the left is mainlining and the one on the right just topped once. I keep my light close to make them bushy.

PM is a problem, and you should do whatever it takes to get rid of it before full blown flower. If it's on your floor and reflector just a matter of time before it's on your plant if it isn't already.


Someone else may say differently but yeah fuck PM.
Thanks for your reply, I'll give my tent a thorough cleaning. I doubt it's gonna get rid of it though, as I've done it a few times already :p
 

skinnys

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Pm Doesn't grow on floors and metal.
Do you have any idea what it is then? I have this white, somewhat greasy layer of something on my floor and reflector, I assumed it was PM. It seems to come when my humidity goes above 70%(I haven't bought a proper humidifier yet).
It wipes off easily with a damp cloth.
I would show you a pic but I just cleaned out my tent.
 
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curious2garden

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8 weeks old before flipping. In retrospect I think I waited a bit too long, someone said they won't get that much bigger anyway. Don't quote me on that though.
I'm doing autos next :-)

Btw, I've got PM on my floor and reflector, but not on the plants as far as I can tell. Will this be a problem? I clean it off regularly but it comes back quickly. My humidity went way past 60% sometimes.
Another possibility is your plants are too immature. You need to know what their phyllotaxy is, mature cannabis plants have alternating, immature are opposing
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You can run plants 12/12 from seed but until they reach maturity you won't see flowering. Flowering auxins take about 2 weeks to kick in. Anyway this is a god send considering your environment. Get all the PM cleared up and clean all your fans, blowers and filters. Best of luck on this.
 

skinnys

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Another possibility is your plants are too immature. You need to know what their phyllotaxy is, mature cannabis plants have alternating, immature are opposing
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You can run plants 12/12 from seed but until they reach maturity you won't see flowering. Flowering auxins take about 2 weeks to kick in. Anyway this is a god send considering your environment. Get all the PM cleared up and clean all your fans, blowers and filters. Best of luck on this.
According to some users I don't have PM, so not sure how to handle that yet. I did clean out my tent today, will see how it goes. Do you think my description above describes PM? A white layer of something that looks like fog/condensation on windows, wipes off easily. It's not condensation as it makes the cloth white.

One of the plants have alternating nodes, one does not. I wasn't aware of this fact you mention, so thanks for that. After creating this thread I just spotted my first white pistils so I guess I'm good.
I still have some root rot and drooping to deal with, so I'm still worried. I'm watering every 2nd day now(coco).
 

curious2garden

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According to some users I don't have PM, so not sure how to handle that yet. I did clean out my tent today, will see how it goes. Do you think my description above describes PM? A white layer of something that looks like fog/condensation on windows, wipes off easily. It's not condensation as it makes the cloth white.

One of the plants have alternating nodes, one does not. I wasn't aware of this fact you mention, so thanks for that. After creating this thread I just spotted my first white pistils so I guess I'm good.
I still have some root rot and drooping to deal with, so I'm still worried. I'm watering every 2nd day now(coco).
Are you running an ultrasonic humidifier without using distilled water? How about your air access? The pattern etc...? If it's not also on plants I'd guess it wasn't PM but I live in the desert where our humidity is under 20% so most of the folks around here know more about PM than I do. One way to test would be to move the plants out and let the fans etc....... run after cleaning them and if it recurs it's not PM.

I wish you well on this, sometimes just figuring stuff out is the hardest part, ok at least for me it was LOL
 

skinnys

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Are you running an ultrasonic humidifier without using distilled water? How about your air access? The pattern etc...? If it's not also on plants I'd guess it wasn't PM but I live in the desert where our humidity is under 20% so most of the folks around here know more about PM than I do. One way to test would be to move the plants out and let the fans etc....... run after cleaning them and if it recurs it's not PM.

I wish you well on this, sometimes just figuring stuff out is the hardest part, ok at least for me it was LOL
Thanks ✌

Ultrasonic humidifier, no distilled water (it's $8 pr Litre here....) If you're thinking it's salt residue, it's not. Even the bulb gets covered in this stuff btw, I'm surprised nobody has experienced this before.

Fresh air from the window right next to the tent. I've grown a few grows before and this white stuff is allways present, but haven't caused me problems with the flowers yet, at least afaik.

I envy your 20% RH, jees. Just a humidifier and you're good. Dehumidifying is pricey..


Edit: S***, I just realized from reading another thread that plants are supposed to get those pistils/hairs on the nodes. Mine don't have that yet, no wonder I'm struggling with flipping them.
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This isn't ready for 12/12, is it?
 
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curious2garden

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Ultrasonic humidifier, no distilled water (it's $8 pr Litre here....)
If it's a very fine white powder that's exactly what it is :) let me trek up to my grow and see if there's someplace I didn't clean up completely. Here ya go:
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I just killed my ultrasonic humidifier doing that LOL You can also see my ineffectual swipes at it :lol: thankfully my new one arrived today.
 

skinnys

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If it's a very fine white powder that's exactly what it is :) let me trek up to my grow and see if there's someplace I didn't clean up completely. Here ya go:
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I just killed my ultrasonic humidifier doing that LOL You can also see my ineffectual swipes at it :lol: thankfully my new one arrived today.
Ahh, you're right!! Sorry about your humidifier :-?
Thanks for your time, I think you nailed it 8-)
 
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