Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 45 29.4%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 38 24.8%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 70 45.8%

  • Total voters
    153

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
A lot depends on what you drive, a compact car or a kilowatt guzzling SUV or half ton. I'm just going by what the LMFP battery promises, 600 mi/1000km range and 4000 recharge cycles when charged from home at a lower rate as many would do. They are building a factory to make this battery in Michigan among other places. However, a 600-mile range, a long-life, lower cost battery pack should resolve the main issues with buying an EV for many. It is just one approach among many that will bring us better cheaper batteries used for devices, EVs and renewable energy storage over the next decade.
EVs that get better than 5km/kWh are few and small. So for an average EV, 0.8 tonne of battery seems (to me) like a large dead weight to be taking everywhere.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
As interesting as the battery innovations are, it’s mostly marketing and hype to attract investors. Some will boom, maybe sell a few patents, most will bust.
A lot of it is a decade of R&D coming to fruition, there are several chemistries in production now and ramping up to mass production, others will begin production soon. VW has a piece of the LMFP battery mentioned above and are building a factory for mass production in Michigan and I assume Europe too. There will be plenty of also rans and business failures as the technology plateaus over the next decade and companies go bust or are absorbed into bigger ones.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
EVs that get better than 5km/kWh are few and small. So for an average EV, 0.8 tonne of battery seems (to me) like a large dead weight to be taking everywhere.
I'm sure battery packs will be sized appropriately and the weight to power ratio should increase over time and tweaking. Many might want a cheaper car with a 200-mile range for commuting, not just technology, market forces and economics will control the deployment of much of this stuff too.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Im hoping the prices drop as they become more popular.
The average washing machine costs between $500-$1000, An EV should cost no more than 5 times as much...There's not much more material involved, 4 motors, some wiring, the EV doesn't even need the pumps....
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Im hoping the prices drop as they become more popular.
The average washing machine costs between $500-$1000, An EV should cost no more than 5 times as much...There's not much more material involved, 4 motors, some wiring, the EV doesn't even need the pumps....
An EV should be less expensive to make than an ICE vehicle, provided the battery can be made cheap enough. It depends on what you want to drive and can afford I suppose, a compact car or a half ton with all the bells and whistles that you need a new electrical entrance at home to charge. A compact car could be charged from home solar with a battery bank most of the time and the cost of transportation could be very cheap for many.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
Just leave a little space between the panels so the fire brigade's water can reach the fire:


 

Sativied

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printer

Well-Known Member
Man…

We have been 2X as fast for a while.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
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