STRAINLY

MySundaysBest

Well-Known Member
Today I spoke with STRAINLY, clearly asking him about the problem of false invoicing that could be done by his team, here is his answer, what do you think?


Hi there,

1. This is a one man show. I am one single operator, with one dev who has limited access. You can argue you still need to trust me. Fair enough.
2. When you think about it, whether me or anyone working for Strainly (in theory, even 100 people), would still have to pay for the ordered item! It is a net negative operation. I spend $100 out of my pocket to get $6 fee. I am net negative $94... Great! I now sit on a huge inventory of seeds and clones after repeating the operation to collect fees. I now need to operate a store to sell those acquired genetics... Why would I run Strainly in the first place? I'd rather sell seeds with a bigger margin in the first place. Seedbanks take a lot more than 6% fees.
3. As explained, you are eligible to a fee refund if the buyer backs out. So imagine I am the buyer (hidden behind a fake profile), I back out after the seller paid the fee... Now you (the seller) come back to me saying this buyer did not pay, please refund my fee. And you get your money back. As the admin, I can verify the buyer never paid the seller. If the buyer paid the seller, then no problem. Seller is happy. There is no flaw here. I spent years mapping out this thing.
4. But now let's suppose I do this for a couple of months... and refuse to refund the fees. All vendors leave, nothing is left on the platform, Strainly shuts down. I lose my personal savings invested in this platform. Just to give you an idea... tens of thousands of dollars invested in the past 6 months only... There is just no incentive for me to do this.
5. Regarding your suggestion. Again, Strainly is not moving the money between parties. Buyers pay sellers DIRECTLY. Strainly does not even see the transactions. You guys want the flexibility of using a multitude of payment methods. THERE IS NO WAY TO DEDUCT A FEE. You need to realize that this industry cannot be served by the regular payment processors. It will never work like eBay or Amazon. With those platforms, they hold the money and transmit it. Huge regulatory implications. Also, this implies you leak your identity and sellers go through full KYC/Identity verification (like you do on Paypal for instance). You will never accept that, rightly so.
6. Pay attention to items descriptions and sellers' profiles. They usually say if they ship overseas or not. If they accept your request and then refuse to ship to you, they contact me and ask for a fee refund. Simple as that.
7. If I ask for the fee after the transaction is made, no one will ever pay... I cannot run after you guys.

Best,
Sounds like he made poor business decisions and is trying to make up for it by installing weird business practices. I don't get why he just doesn't require a monthly/annual fee to use his service. Seems like he is salty about something and wants a cut of every individual transaction, which is just greedy.
 

Ohwolfie

Well-Known Member
@Euforia94
#3. How can he verify that you were paid or not if you don't go through their payment system? They only offer Bitcoin as a payment, right? Say you decide that you want to use Cash App. They don't see the transactions, so how can they verify either way?

Maybe I am missing something?? Also #6

@buddygrows
Says that it's very difficult to get refunded for the seller's fee. He said it's almost impossible. So we have a first hand account saying that it's not so easy as he says.

So aside from the fact that I genuinely don't like the guy from Strainly, I'm also highly skeptical of his motives. Maybe I'm wrong.
 

buddygrows

Well-Known Member
@Euforia94
#3. How can he verify that you were paid or not if you don't go through their payment system? They only offer Bitcoin as a payment, right? Say you decide that you want to use Cash App. They don't see the transactions, so how can they verify either way?

Maybe I am missing something?? Also #6

@buddygrows
Says that it's very difficult to get refunded for the seller's fee. He said it's almost impossible. So we have a first hand account saying that it's not so easy as he says.

So aside from the fact that I genuinely don't like the guy from Strainly, I'm also highly skeptical of his motives. Maybe I'm wrong.
I just don't get why he can't let you put "international" anywhere. Makes no sense to me. The refund process isn't too bad once I figured out.

I almost had a buyer back out because shipping costs are more for international, obviously. But if they can't read that anywhere it's gonna look like I'm up-charging.
 

grayeyes

Well-Known Member
Today I spoke with STRAINLY, clearly asking him about the problem of false invoicing that could be done by his team, here is his answer, what do you think?


Hi there,

1. This is a one man show. I am one single operator, with one dev who has limited access. You can argue you still need to trust me. Fair enough.
2. When you think about it, whether me or anyone working for Strainly (in theory, even 100 people), would still have to pay for the ordered item! It is a net negative operation. I spend $100 out of my pocket to get $6 fee. I am net negative $94... Great! I now sit on a huge inventory of seeds and clones after repeating the operation to collect fees. I now need to operate a store to sell those acquired genetics... Why would I run Strainly in the first place? I'd rather sell seeds with a bigger margin in the first place. Seedbanks take a lot more than 6% fees.
3. As explained, you are eligible to a fee refund if the buyer backs out. So imagine I am the buyer (hidden behind a fake profile), I back out after the seller paid the fee... Now you (the seller) come back to me saying this buyer did not pay, please refund my fee. And you get your money back. As the admin, I can verify the buyer never paid the seller. If the buyer paid the seller, then no problem. Seller is happy. There is no flaw here. I spent years mapping out this thing.
4. But now let's suppose I do this for a couple of months... and refuse to refund the fees. All vendors leave, nothing is left on the platform, Strainly shuts down. I lose my personal savings invested in this platform. Just to give you an idea... tens of thousands of dollars invested in the past 6 months only... There is just no incentive for me to do this.
5. Regarding your suggestion. Again, Strainly is not moving the money between parties. Buyers pay sellers DIRECTLY. Strainly does not even see the transactions. You guys want the flexibility of using a multitude of payment methods. THERE IS NO WAY TO DEDUCT A FEE. You need to realize that this industry cannot be served by the regular payment processors. It will never work like eBay or Amazon. With those platforms, they hold the money and transmit it. Huge regulatory implications. Also, this implies you leak your identity and sellers go through full KYC/Identity verification (like you do on Paypal for instance). You will never accept that, rightly so.
6. Pay attention to items descriptions and sellers' profiles. They usually say if they ship overseas or not. If they accept your request and then refuse to ship to you, they contact me and ask for a fee refund. Simple as that.
7. If I ask for the fee after the transaction is made, no one will ever pay... I cannot run after you guys.


Sounds like a poorly planned, poorly executed business plan. First its free then wait "I wanna make money" so I'm changing the way it works. This sounds like the time I was told I was fired from a job but never asked to leave. Paychecks kept coming.
 

buddygrows

Well-Known Member
Have you received reimbursement since?
Yes my friend did it for me. I don't think it'll be an issue. You do have to contact the guy to get a refund which is weird imo but not a huge deal. I would just wait until a couple people flake and then get refunded for them all at once. I was having an issue with my lightning balance on Strainly. So far to deal with all the ins and outs I've had to get BTC on cashapp, download bluewallet and phoenix (an app i've never heard of)
 

MannyPacs

Well-Known Member
I think it's kinda like door dash(a non profitable business who's path to success/profit seems to only be getting harder). They were one of the first to "provide" the "service" and figured they would be smart enough to figure out how to make it profitable along the way. People have more options now to sell seeds not less, and the seed market in general has cooled, so it does seem like things are only going to get harder for strainly.
 

Unga Bunga

Well-Known Member
I have no dog in this fight but as I see it this Strainly guy has set himself up for failure . Making things harder and having to jump through hoops is never good .

It would be simple to just charge a seller a monthly fee . Offer escalating packages based on number of listings and sit back and collect . Instead he chose to make more work for himself and force extra steps upon seller/buyer .
 

nxsov180db

Well-Known Member
I thought they already had a system in place where you had to pay to sell clones? Like a membership or something.. Man they went to its all free, to making you pay a membership to sell clones, to the fee based system awful fast lol.
 

leetdood

Member
Strainly dude shot himself in the foot. He's a clown, nobody should use that website.

He obviously only cares about money, and furthermore, lots of people got ripped off on his website in the first place. Way too much back and forth about his clown eBay clones sales service. It sounds harsh but it's true- who would trust this clown after this? He lies to you, he lies to sellers, he lies to buyers, he's not interested in making a transparent platform where everybody benefits.

He sent out a mass email about how "Strainly didn't make any changes" and i responded that it was obvious lies. Reply was that "I must have heard some false rumours." My only response was literally "nice try, loser."

There are much better alternatives.
 

Thefarmer12

Well-Known Member
As a seller I’ll certainly be pulling my account off Strainly after a couple years using their site. Too bad but this guys shooting himself in the foot as others have said. Hope to see someone come up with a similar site/discord without the asinine business practices.
 

CaliWorthington

Well-Known Member
There's no Discord thread here, so I will ask this question. Why do I get emails that say "So and so mentioned you on Discord", when I know they didn't?
 
Are there any alternative sites to strainly besides discord
It really doesn’t get much better than discord atm, i Haven’t seen any real downsides to it. No fees, no drama, no bullshit. The cuts available are pretty crazy, they’ve been tc’d and are cheaper than most vendors on strainly. I have the whole freakin chem lineup in my garden lol never thought that would happen at the price I paid, I’ve also got the og‘s I’ve always wanted.
 

splakow

Well-Known Member
It really doesn’t get much better than discord atm, i Haven’t seen any real downsides to it. No fees, no drama, no bullshit. The cuts available are pretty crazy, they’ve been tc’d and are cheaper than most vendors on strainly. I have the whole freakin chem lineup in my garden lol never thought that would happen at the price I paid, I’ve also got the og‘s I’ve always wanted.
I need an invite to gmo
 

CaliWorthington

Well-Known Member
Maybe they confused you with the guy that sells trucks
I think it's because my username has the word 'Cali' in it. Anyway I plan to get the Mega Wellness OG and a few other cuts on there when I can afford it. I'd send you an invite but I don't know how to do that. Discord makes me feel like Stan Marsh's dad (South Park) trying to play World of Warcraft.
 

Tony Tokes

Member
Member/ cloudlife has a Gandolf type fella with a wood pipe! Enjoy guys and gals.. another real deal (finally). I'd never steer ya wrong, the chems d and 91 are legit. I'm sure my ssh is as well. I won't try to undercut this man if I had a cut to spare either so please don't ask me to. I wouldn't do any wrong by him as I'm fortunate as to have hooked up with him and would like to continue to.. not be a dick and try to corner the market etc.. not the type of guy I am.

Anything else I may have I may deal if I got it in rotation at the time, if I actually end up doing it. It's never about the money more the principle. Don't take money of this man's table. I'm willing to help a few people out as everyone starts somewhere but not fuck him over. I'd send you to him most times anyway. I'd have very few but my point still stands. That boy has some gems. I am in no way affiliated or otherwise. Just a happy guy to have a few of my baby's back after I lost them a few years back.. (buddy in MA fucked up a controler and all my moms died.) Was on my first vacation in years lol!
He also has intimate knowledge of every cut and can verify hands. It is obvious he is legit and knows wtf he has. Also has some other gems I want! It will be obvious to anyone in the know of these east coast gems that he has the real thing. I hope this helps him out! You can thank me later.

Hope this helps riu members as well as I would not put my rep or respect here on the line for a fake. Every morning when I mist I get that familiar funk I held for 10 years again. I'm thankful. If you are familiar with (any) of his gems you prob will be as well!

Also his cuts are all 100% healthy and 100% when received I will post tomorrow and you will see they are in great shape and still happy as can be. Though they didn't travel far and I had them 8 minutes after they landed at a buddys house as I was in his town that morning running a plow lol.

Imo don't spend the money if you won't have someone or be around to get them anyway or your asking for it in the winter lol.

Happy hunting!
Cloudlife is 100% solid. I love how he uses Katsu’s method too. Can’t ever go wrong with that, everyone should be on that lol.
 
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