Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 45 28.1%

  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 25.6%

  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 74 46.3%
  • Total voters
    160
cannabineer said:
it’ll be a lot less cool if it turns out that you need a megawatt-plus wondercharger to hit those marks, and pay $100 a charge.

Assuming a 200-kWh battery and “better than industry average” 5 miles per kWh, that’s still $70 a full charge from home, without paying the charging-station markup. I pay less to go a mile in my gasser, at $4.59(9) a gallon.

Dammit guys: the way forward is efficiency.

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The goal never was a lower cost per mile than fossil fuel cars. For the subject at hand, climate change, the way forward is more efficient use resources. The goal is cleaner transportation so we stop killing the planet. Which is also why “the average commute” is a key factor. Those with an average commute changing to EV also increase available charging options. At least with EV many people do have an opportunity to charge it with solar. Especially in the US I wouldn’t be worried about limitations, for obvious and good reasons ICE cars will still be allowed for many years to come.
 
Sativied said:
The goal never was a lower cost per mile than fossil fuel cars. For the subject at hand, climate change, the way forward is more efficient use resources. The goal is cleaner transportation so we stop killing the planet. Which is also why “the average commute” is a key factor. Those with an average commute changing to EV also increase available charging options. At least with EV many people do have an opportunity to charge it with solar. Especially in the US I wouldn’t be worried about limitations, for obvious and good reasons ICE cars will still be allowed for many years to come.
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Cost and personal budget are issues and challanges to overcome and since one person makes little difference in total emisions it has to make sense. But the game changer no one mentioned in this equation is solar. The only way you can know your ev is running on clean energy is to produce it your self. If you got solar you should be over producing your home energy needs so charging at home dose not have out of pocket cost but is represented as loss of revenue. Living in the desert and paying $.33+/kwh @cannabineer should be able to find someone willing to put them up no money down with a years delayed payment. Assuming your credit is not fucked. Collect your rebates for production and use that to make your payments since your always be 6 months ahead (takes time to get everyone on track and set to make the money flow on time)
 
VaSmile said:
Cost and personal budget are issues and challanges to overcome and since one person makes little difference in total emisions it has to make sense. But the game changer no one mentioned in this equation is solar. The only way you can know your ev is running on clean energy is to produce it your self. If you got solar you should be over producing your home energy needs so charging at home dose not have out of pocket cost but is represented as loss of revenue. Living in the desert and paying $.33+/kwh @cannabineer should be able to find someone willing to put them up no money down with a years delayed payment. Assuming your credit is not fucked. Collect your rebates for production and use that to make your payments since your always be 6 months ahead (takes time to get everyone on track and set to make the money flow on time)
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My landlord would not go for it. I agree, installing home solar is a no-brainer and would largely remove the car’s load from the grid.

One thing I find pretty tasty is that many EVs have the option to act as power sources for household use … very handy to keep essentials like the freezer running during a power outage.
 
cannabineer said:
Since a mini split is usually used to cool, its poor operation at minus thirty is something I think of as “not a problem”.

Here in the hot corner of North America it’s been an exceptional July. I dread August.
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It would be a problem if it won't work to cool my little grow room if I'm running it sealed using CO2 tho. I'll be needing it's dehumidifying action as well for that. Plus it's lack of portability. If I had lots of spare cash I'd put a mini split upstairs in the living room and get the portable for the grow room but I'm cash poor, credit rich.

I'm only going to be growing for 6 months of the year going forward. Planning to grow a bunch of plants starting end of Oct thru to end of April to avoid contamination from hemp pollen from the field down the road from us.

Those plants shot right up the last couple weeks. I wanted to fly my drone over it for pics but it's just downwind from an airstrip so in restricted space. Took my camera with me when I went to town on Friday and shot these on the way back. I wonder how many non-locals who whiz by on the highway notice what's growing in there.

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Can just drive right in there off the highway if you wanted to. No more outdoor growing for me or any others in the area.

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OldMedUser said:
It would be a problem if it won't work to cool my little grow room if I'm running it sealed using CO2 tho. I'll be needing it's dehumidifying action as well for that. Plus it's lack of portability. If I had lots of spare cash I'd put a mini split upstairs in the living room and get the portable for the grow room but I'm cash poor, credit rich.

I'm only going to be growing for 6 months of the year going forward. Planning to grow a bunch of plants starting end of Oct thru to end of April to avoid contamination from hemp pollen from the field down the road from us.

Those plants shot right up the last couple weeks. I wanted to fly my drone over it for pics but it's just downwind from an airstrip so in restricted space. Took my camera with me when I went to town on Friday and shot these on the way back. I wonder how many non-locals who whiz by on the highway notice what's growing in there.

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Can just drive right in there off the highway if you wanted to. No more outdoor growing for me or any others in the area.

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it is cannabis … but rope, not dope
 
cannabineer said:
it is cannabis … but rope, not dope
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You know that and I know that but how many young stoners know that. Thinking of getting the wife to drop me off one moonless night so I can pick a garbage bag of free buds before they crop. Should be at least 6% CBD I could make a nice batch of oil out of. ;)

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DIY-HP-LED said:
They don't believe in no liberal fake news global warming down south. President Trump can solve it!

Maybe some time in the oven will change some hearts and minds.

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CO2 persists in the atmosphere for decades or longer so even if we stopped burning a drop of fossil fuel tomorrow this is not going away for a few generations at least.

Going to need to double electricity production ASAP just to power all the A/C units that are going to be needed much less electrification of transport and everything else that burns fossil fuel for energy.

We are at or past the tipping point for heating and glacier melt at the poles. Not just the glaciers but millions of square miles of permafrost are melting which allows all the frozen organic matter to decompose throwing mega-tonnes of methane into the atmosphere which is much more damaging than CO2 albeit shorter lived.

In the next few decades a couple billion people will need to relocate to escape the rising sea levels and we think the refugee situation is bad now.

Many trillions of dollars are needed right now to even begin to slow this down and all our world governments do is have more summits about what if anything should be done. SMH.

Oh sweet lord please give us another chance and we promise not to piss it away again!

Even Musk agrees there is no Planet B as yet.

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Sativied said:
The goal never was a lower cost per mile than fossil fuel cars. For the subject at hand, climate change, the way forward is more efficient use resources. The goal is cleaner transportation so we stop killing the planet. Which is also why “the average commute” is a key factor. Those with an average commute changing to EV also increase available charging options. At least with EV many people do have an opportunity to charge it with solar. Especially in the US I wouldn’t be worried about limitations, for obvious and good reasons ICE cars will still be allowed for many years to come.
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I concede the bolded. I am a somewhat unusual consumer. In US it is not easy to get and run a fueled car that is aggressively engineered for economy, be it of fuel use or overall operation.* So to move me into the adopter category, total cost of operation has to be plainly lower than for a competitor vehicle.

That is why the Aptera concept appeals. Big battery, lotsa miles per megajoule, slow free recharge in the desert sun makes for occasional long trips without costly charging en route. Never mind our right-wing wingnuts … to me that is freedom.

I am kicking myself for not buying a gen-1 Honda Insight. By the time I realized it hits most of the markers, it became a cult (expensive) vehicle.
 
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