Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

sweetisland2009

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why do you imagine Repugs are so offended by Critical Race Theory?

Whupped dogs holler. They know deep down that their preferred society is built on apartheid.
Except democrats are and were the segregationists. To this day fitting people into neat little groups and constantly fixated on race without actually helping race relations

Do you actually believe the 1619 project is factually correct?
 

CANON_Grow

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except hate crimes go both ways too. It’s not one group of people that are the problem. Everyone has their bad apples
There are no “both ways” in what I stated. I’m not introducing any political bias in my statement; any media, left or right, that attempts to create further division by focusing on details that don’t accurately depict what lead to the incident is the problem. It is not an issue of right vs left, white vs black, etc.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Except democrats are and were the segregationists. To this day fitting people into neat little groups and constantly fixated on race without actually helping race relations

Do you actually believe the 1619 project is factually correct?
No opinion on the 1619 project. But ever since Reagan’s fabricated welfare queen, the center of racist gravity in America has rested solidly with the GOP and allied “conservatives”.

Democrats are not the ones gerrymandering brown people into electoral impotence, or legislating away social programs that they perceive as not prioritizing evangelical white straight folk.

Like I said, whupped dogs holler.
 
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sweetisland2009

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There are no “both ways” in what I stated. I’m not introducing any political bias in my statement; any media, left or right, that attempts to create further division by focusing on details that don’t accurately depict what lead to the incident is the problem. It is not an issue of right vs left, white vs black, etc.
I can respect that apologies for any misinterpretation
 

injinji

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My cleaning lady went to a 4th of July party in DeFuniak Springs with her church family. They ordered food from Beef's. She got picked to go pick it up. While they were coming out of Beef's, there was a shooting next door. She saw the whole thing. It has been working on her pretty bad. Happy birthday America.

 

Fogdog

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My cleaning lady went to a 4th of July party in DeFuniak Springs with her church family. They ordered food from Beef's. She got picked to go pick it up. While they were coming out of Beef's, there was a shooting next door. She saw the whole thing. It has been working on her pretty bad. Happy birthday America.

so very sorry to hear about the loss of this man. Your story highlights that reporting a death toll underestimates the effect that shootings have on families and the community. Trauma lasts a lifetime. So very sorry for your cleaning lady too.
 

Fogdog

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Except democrats are and were the segregationists. To this day fitting people into neat little groups and constantly fixated on race without actually helping race relations

Do you actually believe the 1619 project is factually correct?
Do you actually believe that today's Democrats are the same party that endorsed segregation a hundred years ago? Sure, Democrats, the party that drove home the civil rights act are to blame for what happened a hundred years ago. :lol: You do know that the Civil Rights Act, the Democratic Party's centerpiece legislation of the 1960's that ended segregation is what Republicans are trying to undo today? I'm laughing at you as I write this.
 
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Budley Doright

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HGCC

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why do you imagine Repugs are so offended by Critical Race Theory?

Whupped dogs holler. They know deep down that their preferred society is built on apartheid.
CRT has always been a weird loaded term. I always thought of it as the basic idea of being able to look at issues from different perspectives and understandings. It's one of those basic skills you pick up in life and/or get taught in college.

You would think the dipshits screaming that we don't understand "it's heritage not hate" or whatever might like people seeing it from their perspective.
 

HGCC

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Do you actually believe that today's Democrats are the same party that endorsed segregation a hundred years ago? Sure, Democrats, the party that drove home the civil rights act are to blame for what happened a hundred years ago. :lol: You do know that the Civil Rights Act, the Democratic Party's centerpiece legislation of the 1960's that ended segregation is what Republicans are trying to undo today? I'm laughing at you as I write this.
Thanks! I get all riled about that.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
CRT has always been a weird loaded term. I always thought of it as the basic idea of being able to look at issues from different perspectives and understandings. It's one of those basic skills you pick up in life and/or get taught in college.

You would think the dipshits screaming that we don't understand "it's heritage not hate" or whatever might like people seeing it from their perspective.
I take a slightly more practical perspective. Though as a white male, I find that I need to stretch myself a bit to leave my privileged upbringing and perspective behind. Only late in life do I notice that it is confining.

The disadvantages of being nonwhite are papered over by my having lived almost entirely in the era of the civil rights movements, and the surface message that “we’ve fixed it”. Under the surface though, I am becoming aware of subtle (to the point of deniable) yet pervasive racist biases in how people actually get treated. To me, that is the core phenomenon of critical race theory, and the one that gets the big pushback from proponents of minority rule.

A cognate topic is affirmative action, which (if I understand correctly) is intended as a counterforce to the residual disadvantages that nonwhites carry into society and career.

I hear voices that excoriate affirmative action as inherently discriminatory. This is correct in the abstract, but it pointedly ignores the fact that to be born not white in US imposes a definite socioeconomic burden. Thus I mistrust the proponents of that argument — as defenders of the secretly cherished racial bias that CRT seeks to expose and remedy.

So if I read you right, embracing the warnings under the heading of CRT requires that white folk like me make the effort to leave my privileged comfort zone, and work at empathy with those who live their lives outside it.

However, to understand is only half the fight. The second half is to execute. To deliberately take steps that restore the dignity and access of traditionally oppressed (however subtly) demographics. I see affirmative action as one attempt to seek that remedy.

Lately, a simple way to subvert the process is to vote Republican. They appear to have gone all in on social injustice. It’s a headscratcher.
 
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cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I take a slightly more practical perspective. Though as a white male, I find that I need to stretch myself a bit to leave my privileged upbringing and perspective behind. Only late in life do I notice that it is confining.

The disadvantages of being nonwhite are papered over by my having lived almost entirely in the era of the civil rights movements, and the surface message that “we’ve fixed it”. Under the surface though, I am becoming aware of subtle (to the point of deniable) yet pervasive racist biases in how people actually get treated. To me, that is the core phenomenon of critical race theory, and the one that gets the big pushback from proponents of minority rule.

A cognate topic is affirmative action, which (if I understand correctly) is intended as a counterforce to the residual disadvantages that nonwhites carry into society and career.

I hear voices that excoriate affirmative action as inherently discriminatory. This is correct in the abstract, but it pointedly ignores the fact that to be born not white in US imposes a definite socioeconomic burden. Thus I mistrust the proponents of that argument — as defenders of the secretly cherished racial bias that CRT seeks to expose and remedy.

So if I read you right, embracing the warnings under the heading of CRT requires that white folk like me make the effort to leave my privileged comfort zone, and work at empathy with those who live their lives outside it.

However, to understand is only half the fight. The second half is to execute. To deliberately take steps that restore the dignity and access of traditionally oppressed (however subtly) demographics. I see affirmative action as one attempt to seek that remedy.

Lately, a simple way to subvert the process is to vote Republican. They appear to have gone all in on social injustice. It’s a headscratcher.
This was posted in another thread today. However it substantiates what I tried to say with such a clear voice that I think a redundant citation here is appropriate.

 

Fogdog

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I wonder who this guy is and what influenced him to do this. An illegal firearm in New York. No gun law followed by the perp
Gasp,

Imagine that. A murderer who has no respect for the law!

What I find ironic in your post is the assumption that people need guns to protect themselves from other gun owners. Oh well. Can't fix stupid.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Shooting at Rainier Beach Safeway in Seattle leaves 5 injured

Seattle police first tweeted about the shooting at 9:22 p.m. The incident occurred in the 9200 block of Rainier Avenue S., according to Seattle police. Seattle Police Deparment (SPD) Chief Adrian Diaz told KOMO News that the shooting initially began in the parking lot of what is formerly known as "King Donuts."
 

Fogdog

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Shooting at Rainier Beach Safeway in Seattle leaves 5 injured

Seattle police first tweeted about the shooting at 9:22 p.m. The incident occurred in the 9200 block of Rainier Avenue S., according to Seattle police. Seattle Police Deparment (SPD) Chief Adrian Diaz told KOMO News that the shooting initially began in the parking lot of what is formerly known as "King Donuts."
At least 50 shots were fired in what was probably just few minutes. A report I read said "two suspected shooters opened fire at a community outreach event." There isn't information about what led up to it or who did it but the image of two people firing into a crowd is what I'm getting from this.

Four women and one guy were wounded. Two are in critical condition.

Before anybody starts ragging on Seattle for it's "defund the police" campaign. The states with the highest rates of mass shootings are Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and South Carolina, along with Missouri. All with lax gun regulations. All with high rates of gun ownership. The rate of mass shootings in Washington state is 0.67. Rates in the five states listed with the highest rates are between 2 per million residents and 4 per million.
 
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