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Malcolm Gladwell explores how classic westerns may have influenced SCOTUS rulings on gun laws

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Best-selling author Malcolm Gladwell delves into the influence of classic Westerns like 'Gunsmoke' on American gun culture and how misconceptions from these shows still impact today's debates on gun laws in the latest episode of his "Revisionist History" podcast. Gladwell joins Morning Joe to discuss the misconceptions surrounding the Wild West and its historical accuracy, shedding light on how pop culture has shaped Americans' views on firearms. Gladwell also explores the Supreme Court's connection to these misconceptions and their influence on the ongoing national conversation about firearms in America.
 
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Most gun owners are paranoid, and fear driven, and this proves it. What kind of place do you want to live in? A place where emotionally unstable people are armed, because most of the mentally and emotionally unstable want to be armed and feel they need to be. Just someone knocking on their door or driving into their driveway is enough, or just helping an animal cross the road. They can often just "stand their ground" and blaze away.

Who brought you to this pathetic point?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1702589535379431620
 
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Fogdog

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I've been waiting for this to happen. Harney County, large in area but small in population (10,000), elected a judge who, for no good reason decided that requiring a person to get a permit to buy a gun would violate the 2A. On Monday, a trial is scheduled to test his ruling. Regardless of the outcome, the loser will appeal and we'll continue with the old ways with all the loopholes that guns can be sold to anybody who wants one without a background check until the appeals process is exhausted.

The following is the first few paragraphs in an article about the trial. There is much more in the article that is linked to this post.

State trial begins to determine if new Oregon gun laws are constitutional

Oregon’s new voter-approved gun laws passed constitutional muster in a federal court this summer, but now they face another round of legal challenges — this time in state court.

Harney County Circuit Court Judge Robert Raschio is presiding over a six-day trial to determine if the Oregon Constitution allows the state to ban high-capacity magazines and require a completed background check and permit to purchase a firearm.
Ballot Measure 114 passed by a narrow margin in November 2022, carried largely by voters in Multnomah, Washington and Hood River counties. The measure lost big in Eastern and Southern Oregon.

Since its passage, the new law has faced parallel legal challenges in federal and state courts. In December 2022, U.S. District Judge Karin Immergut allowed the law to go into effect until a federal trial. In July, she ruled the law is constitutional. At the same time, Raschio blocked the provisions entirely pending this week’s state trial.

The Harney County lawsuit was brought by two gun owners claiming the law infringes on their right to bear arms established under Article 1, Section 27 of the Oregon Constitution.

www.klcc.org

State trial begins to determine if new Oregon gun laws are constitutional

Harney County Circuit Court Judge Robert Raschio is presiding over a six-day trial to determine if the Oregon Constitution allows the state to ban high capacity magazines and require a completed background check and permit to purchase a firearm.
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i know this is impossible but,

say if one state went hard on gun control, (like seriously only farmers need a single shot rifle that is used only during certain times of the year anything else is not really required unless u at war) and made a safer state, and people moved there to find a safer place to live, would it catch on to other states, making the ones that will never change and dragging their feet then they are open to ridicule sort of thing, or never gonna happen

ya'll kind of got to stop thinking your just like Daniel Boon imo, for anything meaningful to change, i know guns are fun but at what cost is that fun worth

isnt it still 21 for drinking there, whats wrong with ya'll,

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here you go young man, take a machine gun:wall: its your right
 
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Budley Doright

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bursto said:
i know this is impossible but,

say if one state went hard on gun control, (like seriously only farmers need a single shot rifle that is used only during certain times of the year anything else is not really required unless u at war) and made a safer state, and people moved there to find a safer place to live, would it catch on to other states, making the ones that will never change and dragging their feet then they are open to ridicule sort of thing, or never gonna happen

ya'll kind of got to stop thinking your just like Daniel Boon imo, for anything meaningful to change, i know guns are fun but at what cost is that fun worth

isnt it still 21 for drinking there, whats wrong with ya'll,

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here you go young man, take a machine gun:wall: its your right
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Unfortunately you all have went beyond what is normal and sensible gun control. I used to hunt lots and guns were part of our families recreational time. I spent a lot of memorable times with my friends, dad and brother outdoors, to see that end for others would be disheartening, but yes the cost is high :(. We just banned all sales and transfer of handguns which IMO is the right thing to do, sadly that won’t happen in the USA. Fuck, you all can’t even limit mag capacity without years of court battles :(.
 
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Budley Doright said:
Unfortunately you all have went beyond what is normal and sensible gun control. I used to hunt lots and guns were part of our families recreational time. I spent a lot of memorable times with my friends, dad and brother outdoors, to see that end for others would be disheartening, but yes the cost is high :(. We just banned all sales and transfer of handguns which IMO is the right thing to do, sadly that won’t happen in the USA. Fuck, you all can’t even limit mag capacity without years of court battles :(.
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i am not suggesting no guns at all, you should be able to own a gun and hunt with a license, like you say, but you must have a reason for one, like hunting, or having a farm, or permission from a land owner, if you in Cali, or New York, and you dont hunt or work on a farm, you dont need a gun
the only reason you do is everyone else does, so i better get one

atm its like Oprah is handing out guns, you get a gun, and you get a gun, and you get a gun, go blast some kids at school you didn't like,
 
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rasterman

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Sure, more gun laws will be passed by our overlords in the US. They hate us and will continue trying. Eventually the new laws be struck down as unconstitutional. The backlash started a few years ago. Before too much longer, the pendulum may swing back the other way and everyone will be armed. As is their right.
 
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i have the right to send my kids to school and know there safe, and most likely wont get hurt other than playing sport, i had to hand guns to police, back in the day, during an amensty period, i only just got it a year or two. i was pissed to, imagen how a 20 yo me felt back then i was really pissed, and going to get it back with correct paperwork, but didnt

now i prefer the less gun crazy life we have here now and if taking off a 20yo wanna be John Rambo's toy, because i dont have enough reason to shoot or not a club member, is the price so be it

you can still have them just get some rules,
 
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www.pewresearch.org

Key facts about Americans and guns

About six-in-ten U.S. adults (58%) favor stricter gun laws. Another 26% say that U.S. gun laws are about right, while 15% favor less strict gun laws.
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About four-in-ten U.S. adults say they live in a household with a gun, including 32% who say they personally own one, according to an August report based on our June survey. These numbers are virtually unchanged since the last time we asked this question in 2021.

There are differences in gun ownership rates by political affiliation, gender, community type and other factors.

  • Republicans and Republican-leaning independents are more than twice as likely as Democrats and Democratic leaners to say they personally own a gun (45% vs. 20%).
  • 40% of men say they own a gun, compared with 25% of women.
  • 47% of adults living in rural areas report personally owning a firearm, as do smaller shares of those who live in suburbs (30%) or urban areas (20%).
  • 38% of White Americans own a gun, compared with smaller shares of Black (24%), Hispanic (20%) and Asian (10%) Americans.
Personal protection tops the list of reasons gun owners give for owning a firearm. About three-quarters (72%) of gun owners say that protection is a major reason they own a gun. Considerably smaller shares say that a major reason they own a gun is for hunting (32%), for sport shooting (30%), as part of a gun collection (15%) or for their job (7%).

The reasons behind gun ownership have changed only modestly since our 2017 survey of attitudes toward gun ownership and gun policies. At that time, 67% of gun owners cited protection as a major reason they owned a firearm.

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bursto said:
i have the right to send my kids to school and know there safe, and most likely wont get hurt other than playing sport, i had to hand guns to police, back in the day, during an amensty period, i only just got it a year or two. i was pissed to, imagen how a 20 yo me felt then back then i was pissed

now i prefer the less gun crazy life we have here now and if taking off a 20yo wanna be john rambos toy, because i dont have enough reason to shot or not a club member, is the price so be it
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Guns are the leading cause of death of kids in America, not in Canada or the EU though. Guns kill kids and those who support no gun control laws help kill kids too.
 
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I would like to think our training and licensing requirements, as well as federal jurisdiction of gun laws helps.
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If there is no problem, then there is no need for new laws and regulations. IMO most murders are committed by smuggled American handguns and clamping down on legal gun owners more won't help with that, access is the issue here.
 
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if i came to a high school foot ball game, near were you guys live, right now many % folks will be armed you think in that crowd?
 
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