Hps yeilds more potent weed hands down”

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TrixTa313

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A Digital ballast running a quality bulb like an ushio 600watt will not outperform a magnetic ballast running the same bulb, like that solid magnetic desert HardCore Beam” your not tricking the plant with that flickering digi BS

am i saying not to switch to led?? nooo im not… but cause just like from magnetic to digital” the potency didnt matter right??
Well the weed is getting weaker and weaker and i think imma put my plants in the old skool tent for 3 days a week or soo to activate em better…?? i dunnu just some thought about True Watts true Lightning

also anyone on here take a hps clone to led and get-same results??
 
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TrixTa313 said:
A Digital ballast running a quality bulb like an ushio 600watt will not outperform a magnetic ballast running the same bulb, like that solid magnetic desert HardCore Beam” your not tricking the plant with that flickering digi BS

am i saying not to switch to led?? nooo im not… but cause just like from magnetic to digital” the potency didnt matter right??
Well the weed is getting weaker and weaker and i think imma put my plants in the old skool tent for 3 days a week or soo to activate em better…?? i dunnu just some thought about True Watts true Lightning

also anyone on here take a hps clone to led and get-same results??
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I've used HID since 1996 when I started. My HLG outperforms my HIDs hands down. I won't be going back for many reasons but my pot is every bit as good. This is merely empirical evidence based but it was my money and I feel it was well spent. Good luck on your run.
 
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Gosh I remeber using 12 de’s at max in a sealed room, risky and expensive vs led’s ( no choice then ) . With de’s at max dim I def was running 10+ tons running of hvac at least 12 hrs a day and that was to keep it at 78f, now I can have it at 82-84f canopy and use 2.5-5 tons HVAC max and be able to run a 600-700 watt led vs 1000k watts of DE‘S GOT 1.5-2 LB MAX VS LED get 2-3lb and also better quality and same pheno’s .key is environmental adjustments but also making sure if ran led’s at higher ppfd it needs to be ran co2 1200-1500 ppm, vpd followed but also made sure that temps is correct. I see many trying to use hps enviroments but also not relaize the intakes of more ppfd = more intake of npk/co2 and misc. think of a body builder and their intake = more muscle = more protein/ calories needed.

i ran hps/cmh for along time but once the led’s became obvious of their importance I ran 1/4 of room led’s, than half than whole. No way would I ever go back and no way would I want to replace bulbs, pay 30-50%+ more in hvac but also the potency/quality control is way better in led’s so no way would I do it even now thats fosure. I could see if u had 15-20ft ceilings and have LP/commerical electric sure and exp if ur already owning them But even then the led’s in most states they are even offering tax refunds /deducted by quite a bit %.

with leds or hps debate it’s not best to judge it based on grower alone cause sometimes u gotta blame the grower just like everything in their agenda/growing method, light is def not the 100% end result .same debate goes around with strains, just because u see some user growing a crappy same clone/strain doesn’t mean it’s crappy. It’s the growers fault but also not the best example of the logical reasons of using it . This same example is for led’s. I’ve seen tons of bad grows for led’s witj good brands but also hps . Does it change the real logic of the product?
 
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HID are better at flowering plants that need to extract essential oils of, (weed, lavander, the list goes on) LEDs are better at the growing phase as they are less hot and less stressful
Basically we have debated this topic so much in ICMAG and here, LEDs fan boys are hard people to debate with anyhow

But you are not mistaken about the weaker and weaker dope being handed out all over the globe, people found a nice and easy going way to grow, too bad that on the other side, the plant side, things are not going according to plan...

Tolerance is a lame excuse, I smoked so much fire weed and it never stop to get me high, until the last few years when really 90% of what people grow may it be genetics or lights wise is bunk.

Now I won't lie, I've had shit cycles under HIDs aswell, genetics plays a much bigger role here,
But what people don't understand is that it if you put lame genetics under LEDs or HIDs you will get shit results, but if you out fire under your LEDs or HIDs, the HIDs will pull it off better imo
Nothing conclusive or science backed up evidence (we don't want the led fan boys getting their panties in a bunch) just my exp.
Best of luck
 
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TrixTa313 said:
A Digital ballast running a quality bulb like an ushio 600watt will not outperform a magnetic ballast running the same bulb, like that solid magnetic desert HardCore Beam” your not tricking the plant with that flickering digi BS

am i saying not to switch to led?? nooo im not… but cause just like from magnetic to digital” the potency didnt matter right??
Well the weed is getting weaker and weaker and i think imma put my plants in the old skool tent for 3 days a week or soo to activate em better…?? i dunnu just some thought about True Watts true Lightning

also anyone on here take a hps clone to led and get-same results??
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Things you fail to consider.

Heat on a ballast is energy that was never coverted to light. Your efficiency is way lower on a magnetic ballast. A bulb throws light 360 degrees all around its self. Leds run much cooler and are more directed. Their is no comparison

@TrixTa313
Welcome. Don't step in the BS. Bro science makes quite the mess
 
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HID lighting definitely has better intensity and level of penetration that LED has not yet matched, and maybe won't. However, LED literally rules on every other front; fuller spectrum, more efficient in literally every way, safer overall in the event of a failure, the list goes on.

I loved CMH when I used it, but the peace of mind I get from running an LED fixture is every bit worth the higher price.
 
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Roguedawg said:
If the potency seems lower its more likely its from people selecting plants for terps instead of the quality of the high, not from the use of LED. Just read through this forum, there is way more discussion on what terps the plant has instead of the high.
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I think there's a lot of truth in that. I also think it's also because the difference in focus from HID to LED. I always ran air cooled hoods so I never worried about my bulbs blowing. So I took a small loss there too. But overall my current LED is producing the best weed I've ever grown. Then again my genetics have improved as well. Myriad factors play into this. It's not a single variable problem. Another reason it's hard to come to any final conclusion and we keep recycling this topic.

Honestly I think you can produce damn fine weed with either. My HIDs, ballast and hoods are still in my garage LOL just in case!
 
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