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zatoichi2

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Grew a few shrooms last year and froze. Took twice as much recently straight from freezer after 3 beers and seemed to do nothing. Does it need to achieve room temp and/or the beer effected the results. Was thinking of doubling again and some soy lecithin but not sure how much is needed.

Grew a bunch a long time ago and forget a lot of specifics. Used WBS in quart jars noc'd with LC, then into kitty litter trays with I think peat moss or it might have been coco coir, covered for a few weeks then into shotgun fruiting chamber. If anyone is familiar, could use some pointers. Is popcorn better than WBS?
 
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Kola_Kreator said:
Alcohol kills the effect of shrooms. Try them without the beers
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Thought I had read that, so took more and zero effect, just looking for microdose. When I took microdose last year, enjoyed youtube music and videos for hours, and cured depression for a month. Any idea how much soy lecithin?
 
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Weird. I have a few ozs of shrooms in the freezer that I grew last year. Grabbed a few out of the freezer and gobbled a small one a few weeks ago. It wasn't big enough to really do much, but I definitely felt something and it seemed pretty much in line with how it would have hit before being frozen. I didn't think cold degraded them much at all.

I've tripped on shrooms just fine after drinking a good bit of alcohol. The only thing I've found that kills the shroom buzz for me is xanax.
 
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Shrooms are not the same for everyone. I've seen people eat 10 gold caps and not even buzz when others in the same room are tripping balls from eating out of the same bag.

It's likely that alcohol + shrooms varying effects for different people. I can recall at least 2 times when I've been in the middle of an intense trip then drank 1 beer and been sober 10 minutes later. Just the other night a friend of mine had 6 grams after drinking quite a bit and had pretty much no effects.

Best way to have them is to boil them in water or make some kind of soup and throw them in, the trip kicks in a lot faster and harder because it will take less time to pass from the stomach into your blood/brain.

Around 10 gold tops boiled up was always a good amount to get me tripping hard. But the right number to eat would depend on the size and type of mushroom you have got.
 
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zatoichi2

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Fangthane said:
Weird. I have a few ozs of shrooms in the freezer that I grew last year. Grabbed a few out of the freezer and gobbled a small one a few weeks ago. It wasn't big enough to really do much, but I definitely felt something and it seemed pretty much in line with how it would have hit before being frozen. I didn't think cold degraded them much at all.

I've tripped on shrooms just fine after drinking a good bit of alcohol. The only thing I've found that kills the shroom buzz for me is xanax.
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I had quit prozac last year before I took them and started again around january. In process of getting off it again since does nothing for depression. Last year was not depressed for a month and had quit drinking that day for a month.
 
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Gemtree said:
Grow pans lol
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Think that is cyanescens. Must have been what the dead heads had when I was in high school. One gram did the job. If I have not grown them in past, must grow on wood or something else. Have only grown with wild bird seed bulked to peat or maybe coir (around 15 years ago, and did not keep notes). Can you point to tek? Thought i heard they could be grown on the pellet stove pellets which are fairly cheap.
 
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zatoichi2 said:
Think that is cyanescens. Must have been what the dead heads had when I was in high school. One gram did the job. If I have not grown them in past, must grow on wood or something else. Have only grown with wild bird seed bulked to peat or maybe coir (around 15 years ago, and did not keep notes). Can you point to tek? Thought i heard they could be grown on the pellet stove pellets which are fairly cheap.
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zatoichi2 said:
I had quit prozac last year before I took them and started again around january. In process of getting off it again since does nothing for depression. Last year was not depressed for a month and had quit drinking that day for a month.
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If you are back on the Prozac now then that is definitely the issue. Prozac is an SSRI which are widely known to inhibit psychedelics.
 
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zatoichi2

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Thundercat said:
If you are back on the Prozac now then that is definitely the issue. Prozac is an SSRI which are widely known to inhibit psychedelics.
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The microdose of cubes last year did way more than the prozac even at max dose. Will start every other day. Also be good to be growing. Bought cones infected with spider mites and mold and had to trash everything and take break. Been bored. Thanks for the info.
 
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zatoichi2 said:
Does the cow manure stink in the trays?? That was why I never tried them. Actually live about 500 feet from about 30 cows.
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My only growing experience was using premade dung-based all-in-one grow bags from Amazon, which didn't stink at all. I'd imagine that any manure used would have been composted for an extended time and would lose its smell.
 
Gemtree

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zatoichi2 said:
Thanks. That was a great read. Might try cubes first. Does the cow manure stink in the trays?? That was why I never tried them. Actually live about 500 feet from about 30 cows.
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He has a great write up for cubes too just look up bod tek shroomery and it has all his teks. I do oats to totes lol haven’t tried the pan tek yet though and cubes are fine on just coco
 
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zatoichi2

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Gemtree said:
He has a great write up for cubes too just look up bod tek shroomery and it has all his teks. I do oats to totes lol haven’t tried the pan tek yet though and cubes are fine on just coco
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I learned on shroomtalk when it was big, about 13 years ago. Used shotgun fruiting chamber with 2 kitty litter trays. Never cased them or tried second flush. Read so many teks some I mix up. So you can bulk grain with coco? From that pan tek, realize the cubes were not weak, but was expecting pan cyan results from 1 gram which would be 3 grams of cubes. Thanks for the help!!
 
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I'm growing natalenscens on coco/vermiculite, it is taking forever. I cased it back in August with my little sister and she has already havested her first flush. I just brought mine out of the closet today after I cased my APE. I started a blue meanie shoebox back in July. I forgot about it and it is dry as a bone. There is some black stuff on top of the cake. If I rehydrate it, can I at least salvage some mycelium if I avoid the black stuff on top? I don't have the spores for the blue meanie any more. I just wanna get some mycelium on an agar plate to try again.
 
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