Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 44 28.0%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 41 26.1%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 72 45.9%

  • Total voters
    157

Sativied

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A good time for Honda to update their N600 from 1970.

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I've seen a few of them in white but the prob with these small Japanese car is they lack leg and headspace for those not vertically-challenged. Not the best specs, certainly a nice design.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They made 50 of this special edition, sold out in 18 minutes so they decided to create 1000 more. They sold over 30K of the standard version already.
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Yeah it’s marketed as a city car but is not a real car, and it's not suitable for or even allowed on highways. However, many people in large European cities, especially those living in/near the compact older centers, don’t leave the city very often. A large car is then just a pita to park and drive through busy often narrow streets. Usually 30-50 km/h speed limits in the urban areas so for some it'll do just fine.
Beats public transport for many who live in large cities and never need to leave them, everything except relatives is there and to see the folks take the train in Europe. It looks so efficient that a solar roof on it might be able to charge it enough when it's parked at work to get ya home at the end of the day, at least in summer. No need to rewire your house with that thing, it could charge overnight with an internal charger on 120 volts in NA and with 220 in Europe it could charge up pretty fast at home. Practical transport for many and a second car for perhaps even more two car families.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They made 50 of this special edition, sold out in 18 minutes so they decided to create 1000 more. They sold over 30K of the standard version already.
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Yeah it’s marketed as a city car but is not a real car, and it's not suitable for or even allowed on highways. However, many people in large European cities, especially those living in/near the compact older centers, don’t leave the city very often. A large car is then just a pita to park and drive through busy often narrow streets. Usually 30-50 km/h speed limits in the urban areas so for some it'll do just fine.
It does have large tires which suggest highway speeds... So maybe it could handle a short run on the local freeway into the city for commuting.
 

printer

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Antarctic ice melt may have killed thousands of emperor penguin chicks
The loss of ice in one region of Antarctica last year likely resulted in none of the emperor penguin chicks surviving in four colonies, researchers reported Thursday.

Emperor penguins hatch their eggs and raise their chicks on the ice that forms around the continent each Antarctic winter and melts in the summer months.

Researchers used satellite imagery to look at breeding colonies in a region near Antarctica's Bellingshausen Sea. The images showed no ice was left there in December during the Southern Hemisphere's summer, as had occurred in 2021.

"Overall, the five colonies have around 10,000 pairs of adults, so there would have been around 10,000 chicks. We think that 820 — the ones counted at Rothschild Island — may have survived, which means the death toll would have been over 9,000 chicks," said Peter Fretwell in a statement. Fretwell is a researcher at the British Antarctic Survey and co-author of the study published Thursday in the journal Communications Earth & Environment.

Researchers said it is likely that no chicks survived in four of the five breeding colonies they examined. Penguin chicks don't develop their adult waterproof feathers until close to the time they usually fledge, in late December or January, scientists say.

"If the sea ice breaks up under them, the young chicks will drown or freeze to death," Fretwell said.

Overall, the ice around Antarctica reached near record low levels last year. The researchers say that climate change will make such losses more frequent in the future.

Fretwell's team has also completed a preliminary analysis of known nesting sites — visible in satellite photos because of coloured guano, or poop stains, left on white ice — across Antarctica, the only continent where the emperor penguin lives. There are about 300,000 breeding pairs left of the world's largest penguins.

Of 62 known penguin colonies, around 30 per cent were harmed by low sea-ice levels last year — and 13 likely failed entirely, Fretwell said.

"That this could happen doesn't shock me, but I'm shocked that it has happened already. I thought it would be further down the line," said Daniel Zitterbart, a researcher who studies Antarctica for the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, but was not involved in the new paper.

If penguins aren't successful breeding in one location, they may look for another site the next year, he said. While it's possible for the population to recover from one or two bad breeding years, he's worried about the future.

"If you look further out down the line, how many suitable places will be left?" he asked.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Beats public transport for many who live in large cities and never need to leave them, everything except relatives is there and to see the folks take the train in Europe. It looks so efficient that a solar roof on it might be able to charge it enough when it's parked at work to get ya home at the end of the day, at least in summer. No need to rewire your house with that thing, it could charge overnight with an internal charger on 120 volts in NA and with 220 in Europe it could charge up pretty fast at home. Practical transport for many and a second car for perhaps even more two car families.
One thing I always enjoyed when visiting a European city was that public transport was cheap, clean and effective. I’d buy a one-month combined-transit pass for about the price of a nice meal out, and go just about everywhere and never worry about parking.

I particularly liked the Straßenbahn in Vienna. Dense network, frequent cars, panoramic windows and the unique whooshing squeal of the steel wheels on the rails.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Sucking up to be VP.

Ramaswamy calls Trump surrender fanfare ‘shameful’

Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy lashed out against the media coverage surrounding former President Trump’s surrender to authorities in Atlanta on Thursday, calling it “shameful,”

“I think this is shameful, Laura,” he said in a Fox News interview with Laura Ingraham on Thursday. “This is an indictment not of Donald Trump, but of our national civic health.”

“That we have gotten to a place where we have a party in power that will use any charge in any jurisdiction — four at the same time — in the middle of an election, designed, mark my words, to stop their lead political rival currently from running,” he continued.

Trump’s surrender, a procedural step in his prosecution in a sprawling election fraud case, received wall-to-wall coverage from cable news networks.
The former president turned himself in at Fulton County Jail in Atlanta and had his mugshot taken. While the Georgia case is his fourth criminal indictment, it is his first mugshot.
Damn, that makes sense. He is pining for VP. I didn’t think about that. I can’t believe Trump ever picked Pence for VP. That guy is so ridiculously pathetic.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Damn, that makes sense. He is pining for VP. I didn’t think about that. I can’t believe Trump ever picked Pence for VP. That guy is so ridiculously pathetic.
He can stump for Trump while he is in Prison, before both of them are disqualified from the ballot because Trump is disqualified. He might as well run as grand wizard in the KKK as run for nominee of the GOP. Tall, too dark and fascist doesn't work for them, neither does his name, which is a tongue twister for magats who can barely speak English. He sounds like a Muslim to many of them who don't know shit from beans. MTG is Trump's logical pick, but she is a girl, maybe!
 

OldMedUser

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They made 50 of this special edition, sold out in 18 minutes so they decided to create 1000 more. They sold over 30K of the standard version already.
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Yeah it’s marketed as a city car but is not a real car, and it's not suitable for or even allowed on highways. However, many people in large European cities, especially those living in/near the compact older centers, don’t leave the city very often. A large car is then just a pita to park and drive through busy often narrow streets. Usually 30-50 km/h speed limits in the urban areas so for some it'll do just fine.
I grok that and if I were a city dweller that didn't need highways I'd use something like that but when the nearest store is 18km away it wouldn't work for us. When it's -30C, snowing like a bitch and you're out of tobacco you're going to town come hell or high water/snow. :)

I would like something newish that isn't so hard on gas. Driving a '08 Saturn Vue with the biggest V-6 of it's time. All wheel drive sure is useful around here tho. We can really use a pickup but I put a trailer hitch on it and got a trailer so I can do those jobs without another vehicle to insure and maintain. Gets my little boat to the fish too. :)

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

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Forest are replaced by grasslands the largest wildfires on record have been grass fires.
Larger in area maybe but no where's near as hot and destructive. Not to mention the amount of carbon and particulates released by all that dry fuel and trees. There's something like 50x more biomass per square yard of mature forest than in a grassland.

The exposed permafrost melts early and freezes later causing more carbon and methane release which adds to the load and helps accelerate global warming. All that soot lands on glaciers and ice sheets darkening them causing them to melt faster too.

The grass will grow back even better the next season whereas forests in the north will take a century or longer to regrow to the same stage of maturity.

Neither is good tho.

:peace:
 

VaSmile

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Larger in area maybe but no where's near as hot and destructive. Not to mention the amount of carbon and particulates released by all that dry fuel and trees. There's something like 50x more biomass per square yard of mature forest than in a grassland.

The exposed permafrost melts early and freezes later causing more carbon and methane release which adds to the load and helps accelerate global warming. All that soot lands on glaciers and ice sheets darkening them causing them to melt faster too.

The grass will grow back even better the next season whereas forests in the north will take a century or longer to regrow to the same stage of maturity.

Neither is good tho.

:peace:
That's all true. There is no bright side to the mass loss of forestry. Not even a reduction of future fire risk.
Grass will dry out faster then a tree, making ignition more likely. lower biomass density will cause a fire to spread over a larger landmass faster making it more likely to encroach on populated areas and give that population less response time
 

Sativied

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Reading up on the fires lately,

That's all true. There is no bright side to the mass loss of forestry. Not even a reduction of future fire risk.
Grass will dry out faster then a tree, making ignition more likely. lower biomass density will cause a fire to spread over a larger landmass faster making it more likely to encroach on populated areas and give that population less response time
Reminds me of cultural burning in Australia. The major fires there in 2019/2020 (re-)ignited a discussion about this simple common sense practice the white colonists and immigrants neglected to apply to the land they dispossessed from the native population.


 

Sativied

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One thing I always enjoyed when visiting a European city was that public transport was cheap, clean and effective. I’d buy a one-month combined-transit pass for about the price of a nice meal out, and go just about everywhere and never worry about parking.

I particularly liked the Straßenbahn in Vienna. Dense network, frequent cars, panoramic windows and the unique whooshing squeal of the steel wheels on the rails.
Plus it’s a great way to see the city and its people regardless. A visit to the station is already worth the ticket. Unfortunately from city to city or even another country is anything but cheap and effective nowadays but that’s going to improve a lot over the next few years.
 
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