Kola_Kreator
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I do grow in fabric pots
Is transplanting a waste of time?
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outside Dixie
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I can tell y'all are all indoor's. I have to transplant every time to grow outdoor's and picture said it all small pot small plant.I have seed plant's outdoor's in pot's so they won't get but 4 or 5 ft tall. Only plant's i do in pot's.
HenryTheEighth
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I think both can be true.
People growing AUTO’s are told to go straight to big pot for best plants.
But people growing PHOTO’s usually run more numbers and have veg time and plant and root growth under a different level of control.
obijohn
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Outdoors here. In the past I've tried going directly into the final pot (10-15 gallons) once the clone is well rooted and the plant somewhat developed. Just an observation but it does seem to work better to transplant up, when you move from one container up a size, typically the roots have filled up the small container and are eager to expand once more room is available, which makes growth really take off.
The main issue I've had with small plants in large containers is overwatering. You're making a shitton of soil wet, and it mostly sits there aside from what's by the roots that can be taken up, which can lead to root rot. It can be a real balancing act, which I don't want to deal with.
The main issue I've had with small plants in large containers is overwatering. You're making a shitton of soil wet, and it mostly sits there aside from what's by the roots that can be taken up, which can lead to root rot. It can be a real balancing act, which I don't want to deal with.
dwc420letsgo
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If those are clear cups, let’s see the roots. From the size of them, I’d say no but if you look at the roots, it will tell you.
Billy the Mountain
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I've found small pots work better for small plants; much better.
These are 22 days from germination; I'll transplant these to 2 gal fabric pots in about a week and start 12/12 immediately.
Usually I have roots poking through the fabric pot in 2-3 days; there's no slowdown whatsoever from transplanting.
Drop That Sound
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Why not switch to RDWC or even stay with coco, but instead mix up concentrated stock solutions occasionally, and automate the res with nutrient dosers?
madvillian420
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temps/light intensity/humidity issues would be my guess
Ok I was thinking it was lights I moved them away to about 24 inches from the top of the plant so I’ll see if the plant changes at all the next couple of days. Humidity is good and temp is as well it doesn’t get warmer than 84 and not colder than 69 at lights off, humidity ranges from 40-60 but I did have lights relatively close
coreywebster
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Its like anything isn't it.. best practices to minimise chance of problems.
Sure there will be people who don't follow those best practices and get away with it..
Doesn't mean that will be the case for everyone.
Kola_Kreator
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@coreywebster why you think the pic of my roots wasn't from a fabric pot???
Kola_Kreator
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My guess would be that they are a little overwatered and slightly overfed. But I don't fuck with soil, it's too difficult to figure out for me.
coreywebster
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I didn't.
It's just you were drawing a conclusing as to the question (thread title) based on your experience, which is in fabric pots, which give a different root structure to non air pruning.
Grojak
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One big Advantage to repotting is time, putting a fresh cut into a 5 gallon pot I’ve found severely (by a few weeks) slows down the growth process compared to going from a 1 gal to a 5 gal. Furthermore, I’ve finished plants that never got a good rootball when transplanting direct to large pot (did this as an experiment).
Grojak
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Apples to oranges
Billy the Mountain
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I could be wrong, and it's just an observation, but it sure seems the vast majority of pictures showing a young plant struggling, it's in a large pot.
I've tinkered a fair amount, and in my indoor hydro environment, small plants grow best in small pots.
Transplanting doesn't seem to slow down growth at all with a healthy vigorous plant.
I transplant from pint sized grow bags to 1 or 2 gallon fabric pots and usually see roots poking through in just a few days.
I've also grown the same cuts in 1 gal vs. 5 gal fabric pots and have seen no noticeable difference.
The main distinction is the 1 gal plants required automation to feed frequently enough, and the 5 gal can get through a day with one feed.
Kola_Kreator
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Maybe transplanting works for soil grows because the dirt need to not hold too much water to allow the roots to access oxygen. If the pot is too large and the dirt beyond the root zone is too wet this would def slow down the root growth.
In coco the medium always holds enough oxygen so the roots won't be slowed down by watering the whole 5 gal pot.
The fastest growth rates in Coco are achieved by running an auto watering system and water your plant 3 or 4 times per day. It's definitely not worth the effort for me if I'm messing around with different pot sizes and having to rebuild my watering system every time I go up in pot size.
In coco the medium always holds enough oxygen so the roots won't be slowed down by watering the whole 5 gal pot.
The fastest growth rates in Coco are achieved by running an auto watering system and water your plant 3 or 4 times per day. It's definitely not worth the effort for me if I'm messing around with different pot sizes and having to rebuild my watering system every time I go up in pot size.