Any thoughts on whats up here?

[Orin190]

Can't figure out why she's so sad. Not sure what I am missing. Can't figure it out as all the stuff I look at nothing matches. Is this normal? I have been feeding ff trio and I kicked up the dosage a bit last feeding. I know I won't bring it back but just trying to get her as healthy as I can for now. The leaves look like shit and are turning purple...feel like it's a deficiency but of what I can't figure out. In ffof and ffhf my last saliva did the exact same thing. Magnesium? Phosphorous? Deficiency? Lock out?

Never Ph'd the water or runoff becaus I'm in ffof/ffhf. I have been feedinging with every watering because I only water about once every 5 days. Hlg blackbird, rh 50 to 60 and Temps 77 to 79 consistently

The indica that I have and feed and water and environment is the same. I know different strains are different. But WHAT do I need to do different?

Any knowledge is appreciated

 

[Orin190]

Couple more pics

 

[Hugo Phurst]

Do you let the ff dry out completely? If yes - don't.
check the ph of the water before watering.
soilless grow mediums require a lower ph than dirt.

 

[TCH]

In soil, I wouldn't be feeding every time in that size of container. The slight clawing looks similar to my plants that I just had some bad lockout happening due to salt buildup. I wouldn't sweat the color so much but I'd definitely give some plain water a couple times the next few days.

 

[HydroKid239]

Couple more pics

How many ml per gallon of feed do you use from each bottle? Adding anything else?
What power setting is the light on? If it’s cranked up all the way.. I’m going to guess that the plant wants more food, and some run off each time wouldn’t hurt. That will save you needing to flush excess salts out periodically.
I think they recommend once a week, or bi-weekly flushes, which makes sense because the stuff is pretty strong if you let it get too dry between feedings. There’s feeder roots up top in the soil surface usually, and if they stay dry for too long I think it affects the plant. Leaves will dry up under the canopy.
I’m actually dealing with that myself today. I don’t mulch or put anything over my soil so the top layer dries out faster. I mist it to moisten it so I don’t overwater the bottom of the pot.

 

[ProPheT 216]

Odd are simply you have been over feeding and the plant isn't eating it, that leaves salts in the soil that messes up soil ph. Then you up ec even more further elevating the same problem.

Start with a slurry test to check your ph. Feed to runoff at just half what you were feeding with your ph adjusted a little higher or lower than you want to help rebuffer your soil.

If you need more clarification just say so

 

[HydoDan]

Definetly over feeding and salt buid up..

 

[Nutty sKunK]

Agree with Dan. A telltale sign of salt build up is the leaves curl and droop down. It’s because the salty media is actually drawing moisture out of the plant!

 

[Orin190]

I was thinking it was a lot of things but last night I started thinking salt buildup. I will flush with tap water in a couple days. Just watered the day before yesterday so I'd imagine I should wait until I would water again?

 

[Orin190]

Agree with Dan. A telltale sign of salt build up is the leaves curl and droop down. It’s because the salty media is actually drawing moisture out of the plant!

I usually just use water and water until i get about a gallon of runoff. Is this sufficient flushing?

 

[Budzbuddha]

Trash the use of FF trio - that is where your SALT problem comes from. Hated that line from day one of use. It is super concentrated and will salt up a medium fast. Had to trash many a fabric pot because of that shit.

I would do a light flush THEN topdress with FFOF and simply water in. A cup or 2 of fresh soil.
Leaves will not magically turn green but it will stop progression. FFOF has more than enough in it to carry growth to harvest without guessing.

 

[Orin190]

deal, i did top dress then i started feeding nutes a couple weeks later. not sure why now that i recall your guide...However the indica is doing well this one just on the struggle bus

 

[Orin190]

Flushed lightly last night. Not 100% what a light flush is but about 1/2 gallon runoff each. The color of the leaves does look better today but the fan leaves are still curling. If I fix the issue will the fan leaves go back to at least holding their form like normal? Like not curly..also she probably has 10 days left until chop.

 

[Cpappa27]

Flushed lightly last night. Not 100% what a light flush is but about 1/2 gallon runoff each. The color of the leaves does look better today but the fan leaves are still curling. If I fix the issue will the fan leaves go back to at least holding their form like normal? Like not curly..also she probably has 10 days left until chop.

Flushing most times wont work in soil, it looks like you gave it too high of P and K flowering nutes. Just plain water for a couple weeks should resolve it. Make sure there is a good amount of runoff each time.

 

[Cpappa27]

Trash the use of FF trio - that is where your SALT problem comes from. Hated that line from day one of use. It is super concentrated and will salt up a medium fast. Had to trash many a fabric pot because of that shit.

I would do a light flush THEN topdress with FFOF and simply water in. A cup or 2 of fresh soil.
Leaves will not magically turn green but it will stop progression. FFOF has more than enough in it to carry growth to harvest without guessing.

I have noticed with FF trio that the feed schedule and amounts they state to use is way too hot, its really concentrated as you mentioned. Ive used the Trio with good results after tapering down the amounts. They have a line of 12 or something but the rest I dont really use. I like Bembe, and Kangroots for seedlings and for transplants. Ive used their flower kiss on my tomatoes and they seemed to love it, as I dont normally foliar feed indoor. I use organic and synthetics in my grows now and Ive found the best results. Probably 60% Organic nutrients and 40% synthetics.