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laddyd

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I thought I was immune to the "buy stuff for grow" bug going around lately, but someone bit me. I guess my plants are doping next run. Gonna be jacked.
Thanks @manfredo

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I have some Pro-Tekt 0-0-3. From what I've read a little silicon helps strengthen the tissues. I'm not sure if Cannabis is an accumulator, intermediate or non accumulator of silicon. Which category it falls under would determine how much if any silicon cannabis needs. I've always been very sparing with it with no ill effects. If anybody knows for sure perhaps they could share their knowledge.
 

Rsawr

Smoke and Mirrors
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I have some Pro-Tekt 0-0-3. From what I've read a little silicon helps strengthen the tissues. I'm not sure if Cannabis is an accumulator, intermediate or non accumulator of silicon. Which category it falls under would determine how much if any silicon cannabis needs. I've always been very sparing with it with no ill effects. If anybody knows for sure perhaps they could share their knowledge.
I heard a similar thing, and was planning on lightly supplementing in veg to experiment. I have some clones going that I plan on having around in a few months too. Maybe I can try it on a few.
 

DMChiz

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I heard a similar thing, and was planning on lightly supplementing in veg to experiment. I have some clones going that I plan on having around in a few months too. Maybe I can try it on a few.
For outdoor I’d wondered if Potassium Silicate as a soil amendment would help mitigate some late season WPM. Or perhaps I’m talking a bunch ‘o ill-informed horse shit. Not sure
 

shnkrmn

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For outdoor I’d wondered if Potassium Silicate as a soil amendment would help mitigate some late season WPM. Or perhaps I’m talking a bunch ‘o ill-informed horse shit. Not sure
From what little I know, silica is useful in veg to form stronger stems and to promote resistance to pm before it occurs. Probably not so useful as an agent to treat pm once you see it.
 

RetiredToker76

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I thought I was immune to the "buy stuff for grow" bug going around lately, but someone bit me. I guess my plants are doping next run. Gonna be jacked.
Thanks @manfredo

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When I worked (I)PM at the distillation farm, they put Silica into the hydro mix to try and combat... well every single cannabis pest imaginable. Their grows were huge 30' tall hoop houses with concrete floors that each held about 10k veg plants and 5k flower plants give or take. Used to be some kind of flower nursery 50 years ago. They could have leveled the houses and gotten better results outdoors.

Each house had a huge wet wall that they used to try and control the temps and keep it under 100°F, one day they got conditions perfect and made it rain, indoors. That was so depressingly funny to watch it rain on an 'indoorish' grow. They used paper 'fins' in the wet walls, which you could see through outside onto the property. When construction kicked up next door, they were blowing dirt loaded with all kinds of crap all over the flowers through wet walls. So there was absolutely zero pest prevention in the infrastructure, I argued we encouraged pests and then they couldn't get out because of the wet wall fans, kind of like a hotel California for bugs, check in for life. The humidity was insane, and the temps would routinely climb above 115°F in the summer and the 90's in the winter. Si was their holy grail - hail marry attempt to try and save us from Bhang Cannabis aphids, root aphids, spider mites, thrips, caterpillars, you name it we had it in at least one house.

Their results... there was a slight-ish reduction of pests, it was far from a save all, but the buds stood up proudly as they molded and died under the bug and dirt filth. No real change in WPM or other molds, those were very happy molds and fungi no matter what we did. Once we hit week 3 of flower there was very little we were allowed to spray, so from there it was war between the benificials and resident bugs.

Personally being part of the syn-ganic cult, I use Chiten and Chitsoin (ground up seashells soaked in acid until it's soluable for the roots) so I don't have to tie up my branches as early. The theory is essentially the same as Si, the Chiten and Chitosin build up in the tissues and makes them stronger and more difficult for bugs to eat.

The biggest benifit you'll probably see will be stronger branches to hold up the buds. When they started using silica I had to get a ladder to see the mold on the buds, before silica they'd fall over far enough I didn't need the ladder.
 

Rsawr

Smoke and Mirrors
Staff member
When I worked (I)PM at the distillation farm, they put Silica into the hydro mix to try and combat... well every single cannabis pest imaginable. Their grows were huge 30' tall hoop houses with concrete floors that each held about 10k veg plants and 5k flower plants give or take. Used to be some kind of flower nursery 50 years ago. They could have leveled the houses and gotten better results outdoors.

Each house had a huge wet wall that they used to try and control the temps and keep it under 100°F, one day they got conditions perfect and made it rain, indoors. That was so depressingly funny to watch it rain on an 'indoorish' grow. They used paper 'fins' in the wet walls, which you could see through outside onto the property. When construction kicked up next door, they were blowing dirt loaded with all kinds of crap all over the flowers through wet walls. So there was absolutely zero pest prevention in the infrastructure, I argued we encouraged pests and then they couldn't get out because of the wet wall fans, kind of like a hotel California for bugs, check in for life. The humidity was insane, and the temps would routinely climb above 115°F in the summer and the 90's in the winter. Si was their holy grail - hail marry attempt to try and save us from Bhang Cannabis aphids, root aphids, spider mites, thrips, caterpillars, you name it we had it in at least one house.

Their results... there was a slight-ish reduction of pests, it was far from a save all, but the buds stood up proudly as they molded and died under the bug and dirt filth. No real change in WPM or other molds, those were very happy molds and fungi no matter what we did. Once we hit week 3 of flower there was very little we were allowed to spray, so from there it was war between the benificials and resident bugs.

Personally being part of the syn-ganic cult, I use Chiten and Chitsoin (ground up seashells soaked in acid until it's soluable for the roots) so I don't have to tie up my branches as early. The theory is essentially the same as Si, the Chiten and Chitosin build up in the tissues and makes them stronger and more difficult for bugs to eat.

The biggest benifit you'll probably see will be stronger branches to hold up the buds. When they started using silica I had to get a ladder to see the mold on the buds, before silica they'd fall over far enough I didn't need the ladder.
I am using it for the stronger structure indeed! I can't stop giggling at the thought of a grow being rained dirt upon, but now with my hubris My roof is probably gonna cave in...
 
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