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Prosecutors in Fulton County may seek to force Trump's former deputy chief of staff and long-term social media aide Dan Scavino,
who ascended to the role from being a golfing caddy at Trump's golf course, to disclose confidential conversations or directives as part of their criminal investigation into the former president and 18 co-defendants' alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state.
"It may very well be that there's a superseding indictment with his name on it so that he will be an indicted defendant, but we will see," Glenn Kirschner, a former federal prosecutor, said of Scavino during an appearance on MSNBC's "TheReidOut."
"We're not completely beyond the subpoena phase of these cases because prosecutors, even after they return initial indictments, can continue to use the grand jury — continue to use the subpoena power to investigate others who have not yet been charged," Kirschner added.
"The boss is not going to leave under any circumstances," Scavino told Ellis at the time, according to her testimony. “We are just going to stay in power.”
“I said to him, 'Well, it doesn't quite work that way, you realize,'" she said in the video clip.
In a statement to MSNBC, Trump's lead counsel in the Georgia case, Steve Sadow, called the "purported private conversation" that Ellis recounted "absolutely meaningless."
Kirschner told host Joy Reid, however, that whether the chat was public or private isn't important. Rather, what matters is whether there's criminality involved.
"It doesn't matter if it was a private conversation or not," Kirschner said. "There is no sort of privacy exception to introducing at trial this kind of sharply incriminating information.