where is the truly strong indica from pre 2017.

[Big Pauly]

came back here t

heya jimi, was looking for a post you made re: beans from canada (hemp depot) arriving in aout a week. tomorrow makes 2weels since ordering those puck x hashplant beans from a link you sent me. think they may have been snagged by the usa customs?

i
disregard, mail just passed and all is good. homie threw in a full pack of hp dog w the hp x puck pack. thanks for the reco

 

[MissinThe90’sStrains]

I’m gonna have to blame you both by name when I inevitably buy a pack or 2. Just a matter of time and being in the right, uh, “mindset”.

 

[CCGNZ]

i
disregard, mail just passed and all is good. homie threw in a full pack of hp dog w the hp x puck pack. thanks for the reco
[/QUOTE The first time I grabbed seeds thru the mail (back then thought agents might show up) was the Vancouver Seed Bank,and one strain I copped for outdoor grows was Hashplant(Mighty Mite Seeds),was just a billed,short,stocky,chrystal laden indica dom. plant,next year the same,then it changed to a more urine smelling thing the 3rd. go around,tried BC Bud Depot chasing those hashy pheno's and never got it again,also on first go around got Atomic N. Lights,and like the real N. Lights in the universe was a cosmic blast of resin glands. Worst thing about outdoors is the genetics die every yr. some pheno's of strains I've run I've never seen again even though re-ordered the very next yr.The poly-hybridized crossing going on now is a crapshoot regarding the pheno possibilities,especially all the f-1 crosses(basically a lottery). Not that it matters much now,I still grow for the love and out of habit,almost 40 yrs.,but grass is almost worthless now.I live in MA and the city I'm in the pols. handed out licences for weed stores like shit through a goose. Oversaturated the market and think it's the golden goose,truth is I have no idea how a indoor grow facility even makes a profit now,all the taxes,licensing,cost of the building,electric,air cond/heat,nutrients,help grow/trim vs. the price is baffling to me.

 

[Big Pauly]

I just got in some of the Todd McCormick/ Mel frank seeds last night ..
BEAUTIFUL BEANS !!!
AAAAAND , Todd is an amazing person . I talked to him 3 times in last week on the phone in person and in text . I just put them in peroxide water . I haven't been this CONFIDENT and EXCITED about getting some beans going than I am right now !

I've done Herbie's and msnl ( both through green consulting hub ) and out of over $700 and 18 months of my time , I got maybe 10 descent plants . , I can tell you with EXPERIENCE that HERBIES and MSNL( so , apparently anything connected to Green consulting hub ) Absolutely SUCK !!! Poor quality , gg looks just like og Kush etc etc etc ) I MADE GREAT PLANTS OUT OF THEM , BUT because of low quality beans and staff , it TOOK WAY TOO MUCH TIME EFFORT AND MONEY !!!

I HAVE NOT grown out these seeds of Todd's yet . But , I spoke to himself in person. He HAND PICKED MY SEEDS and they are BY FAR the best /prettiest / healthiest looking beans I've seen in years .

From my experience in last couple years , I COULD NOT BE HAPPIER than I am now with Todd McCormick. HE "IS" OLD SCHOOL BRO !!!
AUTHENTIC GENETICS - call him !

sounds like some serious promotion for authentic genetics. "healthiest beans in years"? wherer you been getting your seeds for the last many years? hand picked for you? he 'hamd picks' all of them. lets be real. says so on his web site. spoke to him in person? bet you spoke to green hub in person, too. sounds like what the kids call glazing. that or you got 10% offfor a glowing review. will be giving his NL#2 a day in court next year but not bc of anything you shared, thats old hat, but bc he seems to be legit axxording to the forum. good luck with your grow will be awaiting the progress reports.

 

[Big Pauly]

I'm just saying Herbie's has ripped me off for 18 months ! Smart asses when I contacted them . Went out of their way to sale me on some how my fresh clean plate and moist paper towel in a warm dark spot is WHY THEIR tiny pale deformed looking stuff they sent me won't pop or make good strong plants . They want pictures . LMAO .
It's BAG SEEDS AT BEST . . .
I MADE the few that popped and didn't herp BAD ASS . .. it took too much to get what I have though . maybe because of my address, they thought they'd dump some junk on a sucker . . . Heard some people in Florida say same .
I HAVE NO IDEA if AG is any good . I KNOW HERBIES SUX AND IS FULL OF EXCUSES . ... THEY WONT GET ME AGAIN . My bud said , it's almost like they're treated with something . . . I agree .
I live in Texas , but have relatives in Michigan, New Mexico and Missouri . MY SECURE MAIL IS IN TEXAS , NOT MY GROW . ...
SO , I sent remainder of crap they sent me to relatives . They tried them - same thing - SEEDS ARE GARBAGE -
TODD McCormick didn't just hand pick mine , HE HAND PICKS EVERYONES and TALKS TO EVERYONE on the phone or text or video .
Again , I just found this guy . Haven't grown out anything yet . My buddy in Michigan just dropped those nl5s in water and another bud is gonna pop some skunk 1s after the holidays . . .

AFTER LOOKING AT THE BEANS UP CLOSE -
Im saying - comparatively speaking - AT THIS POINT with Todd McCormick -
( He sent us beautiful beans ! ) Me and my friends are feeling a lot more confident and satisfied , where we are now - than with the garbage Herbie's AND msnl sent us over last 18 months . .
It's basically a reunion of 3 guys ( grew up as teen agers next door to each other ) who grew Mexican bag seeds in a closets at 15 , 16 , 17 years old . We don't care nothing about fruity tootie , bizarre or monster names .
We ain't looking for freebies ( but ag does offer them ) - we cared about good quality product and service . Others have failed miserably , so far he hasn't . I GIVE CREDIT BOTH WAYS - good or bad .
Funny , same guy with closet in our neighborhood then , is same guy with grow space in Michigan now .
So yeah , I guess it is an unsolicited ad for AG . Some people , looking for TRUTH - call it WORD OF MOUTH . . . I was extremely frustrated by time I finally found AG . He has absolutely turned it around for me AT THIS POINT
Glad you are giving some of his equipment a try . I do think it's his passion and he gives a shit about his product !
JUST MY UNSOLICITED OPINION !!!

okbro, guess you were just excited and now can see why. glad you got things sorted. truth be told i dont like seeing reviews that look like dude has payed someone off to write them. all good, man. guess id have trouble curbing my enthusiasm, too. you got good beans now go forth and grow. again, will be looking for updates. you on any grow sites? would love to watch the progress

 

[Big Pauly]

glad for you, man. you;ve been shit on the hard way and now its time for some winning.

 

[Big Pauly]

Dont fuck with Reeferman. Hes ripping everyone off.

The buds are on my Les Paul guitar case. They are almost 2 feet long. There were a bunch of them this big.

The NL5 leaner, is from Swami Organic Seeds Blue Orca Haze, as is the sativa leaner. They both came from the same pack.

Im not positive if NWSun, on Strainly sends to Canada, but I believe he does.

Look into his F2 repro of Crickets and Cicada Pacific Northwest Hashplant x Puck/NL1.

This is the closest you will ever get to Nevils Original Hashplant. Nevil said the Hashplant, is the most potent stuff, he ever smoked. Knockout stone.

Also extremely cheap at $45 USD a pack. I bought 2 packs, and asked for the same seeds, as freebies, and he gave me a dfee whole pack.

You wont find a better deal than this, and the weed is top of the line. They just dont get really big. NWSun, also says this is the most potent stuff he has. He is also very active on Overgrow, so he doesnt hide, and is well known, and is well liked.
If you dont know what Puck is. Its also known as Skelly Hashplant, and is a pheno, a guy nicknamed Skelly, found in a pack of Nevils Hashplant, he sewed into a sweater, and brought them back from Holland, in 1988. Skelly kept his weed in something that resembled a hockey Puck. Thus the 2 names, for the same clone.

The PNWHP, and Puck clones are the 2 most sought after, of all the Hashplant clones. You never see them for sale. EVER.

PNW Hash Plant x Puck BC1 (F2) - Strainly

PNW Hash Plant x Puck BC1 (F2) for $45 per unit by NWSun on Strainly

strainly.io

missed this. thanks

Just noticed the printing is different and these are BC2. What gives?

 

[jimihendrix1]

Those seeds you have, are the same seeds, but backcrossed again, which will make it closer to the original Nevils Hashplant, and throw more PNWHP phenos vs the 1st backcross. Looks like he got a male from the seeds I bought, the BC1, and then bred it back to the original PNWHP BC1 pheno he used in the first cross.

 

[Big Pauly]

Dont fuck with Reeferman. Hes ripping everyone off.

The buds are on my Les Paul guitar case. They are almost 2 feet long. There were a bunch of them this big.

The NL5 leaner, is from Swami Organic Seeds Blue Orca Haze, as is the sativa leaner. They both came from the same pack.

Im not positive if NWSun, on Strainly sends to Canada, but I believe he does.

Look into his F2 repro of Crickets and Cicada Pacific Northwest Hashplant x Puck/NL1.

This is the closest you will ever get to Nevils Original Hashplant. Nevil said the Hashplant, is the most potent stuff, he ever smoked. Knockout stone.

Also extremely cheap at $45 USD a pack. I bought 2 packs, and asked for the same seeds, as freebies, and he gave me a dfee whole pack.

You wont find a better deal than this, and the weed is top of the line. They just dont get really big. NWSun, also says this is the most potent stuff he has. He is also very active on Overgrow, so he doesnt hide, and is well known, and is well liked.
If you dont know what Puck is. Its also known as Skelly Hashplant, and is a pheno, a guy nicknamed Skelly, found in a pack of Nevils Hashplant, he sewed into a sweater, and brought them back from Holland, in 1988. Skelly kept his weed in something that resembled a hockey Puck. Thus the 2 names, for the same clone.

The PNWHP, and Puck clones are the 2 most sought after, of all the Hashplant clones. You never see them for sale. EVER.

PNW Hash Plant x Puck BC1 (F2) - Strainly

PNW Hash Plant x Puck BC1 (F2) for $45 per unit by NWSun on Strainly

strainly.io

Those seeds you have, are the same seeds, but backcrossed again, which will make it closer to the original Nevils Hashplant, and throw more PNWHP phenos vs the 1st backcross. Looks like he got a male from the seeds I bought, the BC1, and then bred it back to the original PNWHP BC1 pheno he used in the first cross.

is that not a faux pas? sending seeds that are close but not. i ordered the same as you, the same as was posted on his page. this better be powerful bud.

this better be the "ths stuff blows past everything I have" stuff.

 

[jimihendrix1]

is that not a faux pas? sending seeds that are close but not. i ordered the same as you, the same as was posted on his page. this better be powerful bud.

What I believe is, is yours are correctly labeled, and mine are mislabeled.

When Crickets and Cicada originally released these, they were listed as BC1. So If they were backcrossed again, that would be BC2-F2. Like yours are.

Mine, are Mislabeled.

 

[HenryTheEighth]

Well whatever indica you choose let it get fully ripe if its bed time stuff your after that makes a huge difference you want plenty of amber as cbn is the shit for sleep 2.5 milligrams is roughly eqaul to 10 milligrams of valium so its worth remembering that

That’s an interesting statement. I didn’t know that. So that’s why you chasing the old big bud for the cbn… but doesn’t thc degrade to cbn? Couldn’t you just make a technical process to degrade thc?

 

[HenryTheEighth]

this better be the "ths stuff blows past everything I have" stuff.

If you want that then get the Uzbekistani IBL from CSI - Pirates of the emerald triangle.
It’s the opium of cannabis according to dubi from Ace seeds. It’s a heavily worked landrace hash line that Cannabiogen worked.
Make hash.
I have read descriptions that it’s narcotic AF and some peeps report not being able to move properly.
I just bought two packs.

Other than that if you want the other end of the spectrum go to Fleur du mal seeds and get some Durban Thai high flyer or his C99.

 

[conor c]

That’s an interesting statement. I didn’t know that. So that’s why you chasing the old big bud for the cbn… but doesn’t thc degrade to cbn? Couldn’t you just make a technical process to degrade thc?

You could but it work better with some thc in it as well i think why i aint going the turn thc into cbn degradation route or whatever and yes its exactly why i chasing that one bud spot on

 

[conor c]

If you want that then get the Uzbekistani IBL from CSI - Pirates of the emerald triangle.
It’s the opium of cannabis according to dubi from Ace seeds. It’s a heavily worked landrace hash line that Cannabiogen worked.
Make hash.
I have read descriptions that it’s narcotic AF and some peeps report not being able to move properly.
I just bought two packs.

Other than that if you want the other end of the spectrum go to Fleur du mal seeds and get some Durban Thai high flyer or his C99.

From what i hear caleb got the pure uzbekistani vs say the usc one that has nl in its backround also so expect big plants like you would get with mazari or most of the northern afghans this one intrigues me too mate

 

[HenryTheEighth]

From what i hear caleb got the pure uzbekistani vs say the usc one that has nl in its backround also so expect big plants like you would get with mazari or most of the northern afghans this one intrigues me too mate

It’s a hot line to get. I think I will probably pop mine as soon as they arrive for a reproduction/seed increase for stock.

I see a rollie on here from Spain is working their stock of this line and it looks nice
But apparently it does carry the risk of going sterile from inbreeding.. it happened to Cannabiogen and they stopped releasing regs of it afaik.

Yeah Caleb got the real deal through Bodhi I think was the progression. And the one review on CSI gives it 50 stars out of ten.
That was enough for me to be sold on the idea.

Also I have read that the Uzbekistani is best kept pure. Outbreeding doesn’t make it stronger.
I might do one outcross and then breed those males back in to the IBL to reduce sterility worries.

 

[conor c]

It’s a hot line to get. I think I will probably pop mine as soon as they arrive for a reproduction/seed increase for stock.

I see a rollie on here from Spain is working their stock of this line and it looks nice
But apparently it does carry the risk of going sterile from inbreeding.. it happened to Cannabiogen and they stopped releasing regs of it afaik.

Yeah Caleb got the real deal through Bodhi I think was the progression. And the one review on CSI gives it 50 stars out of ten.
That was enough for me to be sold on the idea.

Also I have read that the Uzbekistani is best kept pure. Outbreeding doesn’t make it stronger.
I might do one outcross and then breed those males back in to the IBL to reduce sterility worries.

If you are gonna have to cross it maybe cross it to a sister try and keep it as same as you can id say any of the Afghans near the uzbekistani border will have inevitably traded genes with em already you would think so maybe one of those i mean lets be honest the northern afghans are turkestani in origin who knows uzbek might have a tie in too it explain the size of em fingers crossed u dont run in to this sterility issue too much then mate

 

[HenryTheEighth]

If you are gonna have to cross it maybe cross it to a sister try and keep it as same as you can id say any of the Afghans near the uzbekistani border will have inevitably traded genes with em already you would think so maybe one of those i mean lets be honest the northern afghans are turkestani in origin who knows uzbek might have a tie in too it explain the size of em fingers crossed u dont run in to this sterility issue too much then mate

That all makes sense but I also want to try to add in some resistance to the Uzbek I think since it’s used to a dry finish.
I also wouldn’t want to put any funky afghans on it since the Uzbek is also decently low odour. It’s minty and eucalyptus sort of thing afaik.
I was thinking I might try to score some Slymer S1’s and bring that in for the stupid frost and the lime trainwreckyness.

 

[Tolerance Break]

this better be the "ths stuff blows past everything I have" stuff.

Every bean is a diceroll, but Ive come across enough @jimihendrix1 posts to know he knows his shit.

I bought 3 packs of those same beans over chrismas based on his recommendation. Let the games begin.

 

[conor c]

That all makes sense but I also want to try to add in some resistance to the Uzbek I think since it’s used to a dry finish.
I also wouldn’t want to put any funky afghans on it since the Uzbek is also decently low odour. It’s minty and eucalyptus sort of thing afaik.
I was thinking I might try to score some Slymer S1’s and bring that in for the stupid frost and the lime trainwreckyness.

Well mazari has some resistant phenos as long as you get the right ones i seen a guerilla grow done down south in england with it on another forum and it did pretty well surprisingly the guy said he got two phenos mould wise one that was fine other more like what u would expect from afghans in wet climates so get the right one it should help then again paired with slymer proly be nice too the mint eucalyptus combo is a rare one i know real kerala has a bit of mint about it but seems a rare profile in cannabis not many things seem to have ime especially hybrids the old white widow had a bit of that among other things but thats cos of the south indian hybrid that is in it

 

[HenryTheEighth]

Well mazari has some resistant phenos as long as you get the right ones i seen a guerilla grow done down south in england with it on another forum and it did pretty well surprisingly the guy said he got two phenos mould wise one that was fine other more like what u would expect from afghans in wet climates so get the right one it should help then again paired with slymer proly be nice too the mint eucalyptus combo is a rare one i know real kerala has a bit of mint about it but seems a rare profile in cannabis not many things seem to have ime especially hybrids the old white widow had a bit of that among other things but thats cos of the south indian hybrid that is in it

Yep Mazar would be a solid option. That can be a fruity one. There is or was a seller on hemp depot doing a nice fruity mazar ibl.
So that could be a thing.
I also have the PCK but I don’t think I’d use that but maybe?