The renewable energy changes and policy

DIY-HP-LED

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Another industry transitioning, it is hoped that cheap ammonia production by new technology could power such ships in the future, but for now they are going with what they've got, which is not great, hydrogen is another option, but ammonia holds more hydrogen than hydrogen gas for a given volume and is easier to handle and store. It's not just EVs and light transportation that is transitioning and the world's shipping fleet is aging because new ships must comply with new regulations.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Joe/any pres only has so much control, gas is always cheap in winter and prices will spike back up in the summer peak seasons. No one in the west is playing nice with OPEC right now and they could decide to try and F us anytime. With Germany being one of the hardest hit with energy/gas prices as a fallout of the Russia embargo I expect BMW/MB/VW to jump head first into R&D to the point of competing with US/China real fast
That is why Joe opened the taps, to depress the market and give these assholes less control come election season, no need to hold back over future supply concerns.

I agree the Quantumscape battery appears to be a real winner and better battery tech is being developed in America and globally, the fight for EVs and even solar is far from over. Expect tariffs on EVs, solar panels and batteries while we get up to speed with supply chains and factories, also expect gas prices to remain as low as Joe can get them. He doesn't have complete control of the market, but America is the largest producer, and he now has an edge that previous presidents didn't, he can anticipate technological change and a diminishing demand for oil and later NG. That means he can sell more of it without worrying so much about America's future energy supplies, particularly gasoline. There will be geopolitical implications as America's energy security over the next decade depends less on things happening in the middle east. If Joe wins in November, then by the time he leaves office in 2029 the global energy landscape should be a much different place.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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I saw that, the EV's aren't quite there yet, so expect stumbles out of the starting gate. It is however logical to assume that an EV with a fraction of the moving parts and mechanical complexity of an ICE vehicle should have much lower maintenance. The trend is clear and better batteries are coming, GM also had a fiasco with one of their platforms and Tesla has battery issues too.
 

cannabineer

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I saw that, the EV's aren't quite there yet, so expect stumbles out of the starting gate. It is however logical to assume that an EV with a fraction of the moving parts and mechanical complexity of an ICE vehicle should have much lower maintenance. The trend is clear and better batteries are coming, GM also had a fiasco with one of their platforms and Tesla has battery issues too.
At this point, maintenance (repair) is very expensive per instance. Batteries degrade and fail. Treasla has been a particular pig about it, spending on an entire customer-diversion division rather than admit (and honor the warranty) their batteries seriously underperform compared to their range, longevity etc. as specified by their sales bs.
Motors also go out every ~80k miles,


and look at the replacement cost.


I’m sure BEVs have a future, but they have a low-performance (esp. in winter) high-cost present.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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At this point, maintenance (repair) is very expensive per instance. Batteries degrade and fail. Treasla has been a particular pig about it, spending on an entire customer-diversion division rather than admit (and honor the warranty) their batteries seriously underperform compared to their range, longevity etc. as specified by their sales bs.
Motors also go out every ~80k miles,


and look at the replacement cost.


I’m sure BEVs have a future, but they have a low-performance (esp. in winter) high-cost present.
For the most part current ones use decades old Li-ion technology and the Chinese are going with low cost and quality LFP or sodium, though some claim to have a powerful LMFP battery that has high energy density and good low temp performance. In America there is a lot of potential for better batteries that can blow them out of the water pretty fast. The low temp performance of the Quantumscape SS ones have caught the attention of many.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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At this point, maintenance (repair) is very expensive per instance. Batteries degrade and fail. Treasla has been a particular pig about it, spending on an entire customer-diversion division rather than admit (and honor the warranty) their batteries seriously underperform compared to their range, longevity etc. as specified by their sales bs.
Motors also go out every ~80k miles,


and look at the replacement cost.


I’m sure BEVs have a future, but they have a low-performance (esp. in winter) high-cost present.
Elon screwed people on solar roofs too a member here among them who had lots of complaints, are EVs any different? I'm not a big fan of Tesla, in spite of all the hype and I'm less of a fan of Elon the more I hear about the guy.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Elon screwed people on solar roofs too a member here among them who had lots of complaints, are EVs any different? I'm not a big fan of Tesla, in spite of all the hype and I'm less of a fan of Elon the more I hear about the guy.
The only think I like are his rockets. However his Mars designs are wack.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is the competition and other than to North America they are selling solar panels, batteries and EVs to most of the world. As can be seen there is a very high level of automation and they don't really depend on cheap labor.


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cannabineer

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The whole mars colony idea is a whacky idea! You first Elon and stay there.
My complaint is other.
The planets and most moons should be closed to development/trashing.

Planets are cradles.

Once we can make a living from the asteroids and Kuiper objects — that is when we have earned our way offplanet.

I am opposed to his capitalist attitude of “A wild, fragile desert planet! Ain’t it pretty! Let’s pave and strip-mine it!”
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My complaint is other.
The planets and most moons should be closed to development/trashing.

Planets are cradles.

Once we can make a living from the asteroids and Kuiper objects — that is when we have earned our way offplanet.

I am opposed to his capitalist attitude of “A wild, fragile desert planet! Ain’t it pretty! Let’s pave and strip-mine it!”
It is hard to pollute the moon, but the side facing us could be defaced. It will be a while before we have colonies on Mars I figure, radiation on the way there and on the surface will be an issue. Even on the moon, people will be underground operating humanoid robots on the surface, or they will do work on their own. You might even be able to control a humanoid robot on the moon from earth with the help of a bit of AI.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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My complaint is other.
The planets and most moons should be closed to development/trashing.

Planets are cradles.

Once we can make a living from the asteroids and Kuiper objects — that is when we have earned our way offplanet.

I am opposed to his capitalist attitude of “A wild, fragile desert planet! Ain’t it pretty! Let’s pave and strip-mine it!”
If we are gonna exploit space or anything else for that matter, greed and capitalism is the way to go, nothing gets it from the lab to the fab faster.
 

VaSmile

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My complaint is other.
The planets and most moons should be closed to development/trashing.
is already the case. At least for americans and those of in most western nations. NASA and ESA have domain over "space" and both have huge departments charged with regulating planetary protection. Lots of policies have already been put in place to prevent us from contaming other planets from human influence, and to prevent us from contamination of exoplanatary materials and biomass
 

DIY-HP-LED

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is already the case. At least for americans and those of in most western nations. NASA and ESA have domain over "space" and both have huge departments charged with regulating planetary protection. Lots of policies have already been put in place to prevent us from contaming other planets from human influence, and to prevent us from contamination of exoplanatary materials and biomass
It applies to places where there might be indigenous life more than lifeless rocks like asteroids. With the moon, no need to go to the asteroids since every kind has already crashed into the moon and regolith is already powder for processing. We would have to do a lot of mining on the side facing us to see the difference.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We've got magic balls now! A lot of those making predictions about new powerlines being required, don't seem to realize they can also be rewired with better conductors to increase capacity, as well as by using power management systems like this. Rooftop solar in and around major urban centers will reduce the demand for imported power too, as will increasing numbers of batteries. We need a robust, secure and distributed green new grid able to accommodate a variety of energy sources and regions connected by HVDC interconnectors for long distance transport.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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There will be mistakes and money wasted as we transition and learn a new way of doing things, this is just the beginning. Memes about gas cars towing EVs are no different than the ones over 100 years ago when horses had to tow car divers who broke down in their primitive autos on rural roads. In 20 years, the horses were gone from the urban landscape but lasted longer in the countryside until replaced by tractors. The pace of change and technological development is much faster these days.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Technical innovations are happening constantly across all fields in a globally interconnected world. This looks like it might move from the lab to the fab pretty quickly. That is one reason why it is difficult to make technological predictions over any length of time, we can spot the short-term trends though. Developments that took decades have had their time frames compressed to months by the sheer volume of work being done globally.

 
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