Maven Genetics doesn't sell their seeds -- is there a breeder that sells near-Maven Genetics seeds?

Apostatize

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Don't think they sell seeds, they sell cannabis products (bud, pre rolls, concentrates, and vapes), but not seeds.
Which seed-selling breeder is comparable to Maven Genetics? I'm not necessarily looking for a copycat, but Maven's strains are impressive; and when I add a strain to my stable, I don't want to waste time with a step backward. Who's on Maven's level?
 

Apostatize

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Kinda a Ford, Dodge, Chevy question. You’ll get plenty of opinions.
Yeah, I just haven't been excited by new strains recently. That probably means I'm happy with what I have. With 12+ in rotation (after working through ~40 in 4 years), I should be able to wait until something dramatically different/better becomes available.
 

Apostatize

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Its a bunch of hype crossed to hype, theres a list of breeders a mile long doing this. Telling everyone your cross is "something dramatically different/better" than the rest is part of being a salesman.
Haha. Recently (this round), I started pH'ing flower phase nutes with dry concentrated citric acid. I still use pH down in veg; but if citric acid enhances the flavor (I'm hoping it does), it'll be that much longer before I buy more seeds.
 

madvillian420

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Haha. Recently (this round), I started pH'ing flower phase nutes with dry concentrated citric acid. I still use pH down in veg; but if citric acid enhances the flavor (I'm hoping it does), it'll be that much longer before I buy more seeds.
im in the same boat of wanting greatness but im going back to old school stuff and away from the hype. Diesel, Giesel, Chem, TK, etc.
 

Apostatize

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To focus on what I'm lacking, I'm looking for a potent sativa with a flowering time of about 9 weeks and a terpene profile beyond just herbal/earthy/pine/lemon. Maui Wowie is supposed to have a 9-week flowering time, but its terpene profile is lacking and I'm not sure it's potent enough by today's standards.

Maven's Orange Bellini appears to be what I'm looking for (I recall reading somewhere that it has a 9-week flowering time), but Maven doesn't sell seeds.

Any recommendations?
 

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MtRainDog

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Hmmm I dunno. Orange Bellini doesn't sound very "sativa" to me. And I'm not sure Maven is some great breeder. Sounds like a poly hybrid chuck fest to me. Orange Bellini is:

(Agent Orage x Cookies n Cream (IX ?)) x (GMO x GSC/OG Kush) x (Peach Ringz x Gelato Gas)

so basically a lot of Cookies crossed 50 times to itself.
 

Phytoplankton

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but if citric acid enhances the flavor (I'm hoping it does),
It certainly doesn't do it directly, I guess it could help some metabolic pathway to increase terpenes, but it's kinda like molasses, doesn't sweeten the bud directly through the plant, but instead feeds the microbes which makes nutrients more available to the plant.
 
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Bad Karma

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To focus on what I'm lacking, I'm looking for a potent sativa with a flowering time of about 9 weeks and a terpene profile beyond just herbal/earthy/pine/lemon.
Any recommendations?
Jack the Ripper, and Vortex, are the first things to come to mind.
JTR packs a candied citrus terp profile and a very nice heady high.
Vortex is more fermenting tropical fruit in its terps and is an award winning strain for good reason.
Do some research and you’ll see why both are legends.
JTR is still being produced by Badgers Batch at Genetic Supply.
Vortex is also available at GS from Groundbreaking Seeds Group.
 

Apostatize

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Jack the Ripper, and Vortex, are the first things to come to mind.
JTR packs a candied citrus terp profile and a very nice heady high.
Vortex is more fermenting tropical fruit in its terps and is an award winning strain for good reason.
Do some research and you’ll see why both are legends.
JTR is still being produced by Badgers Batch at Genetic Supply.
Vortex is also available at GS from Groundbreaking Seeds Group.
Genetic Supply has a 50/50 hybrid available. I might try it, I'll keep looking. Currently, the only clear up high strain I have is Gorilla Cookies (Gorilla Glue x Thin Mint GSC) (tastes like vanilla nut with a little pepper -- it's been a while). Everything else is a clear down -- I elimimated the "where are my keys" down high strains and potent strains that taste not so good (e.g., Gas Cake -- a Triangle Kush hybrid).
 

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Nizza

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Haha. Recently (this round), I started pH'ing flower phase nutes with dry concentrated citric acid. I still use pH down in veg; but if citric acid enhances the flavor (I'm hoping it does), it'll be that much longer before I buy more seeds.
Ever since I started adding Epsom salt to my hydro (coco) the flavor has been enhanced. On top of that I've added UVA and just built a drying unit to preserve the terps. I also push the feeds and lights pretty hard and have been very pleased with the results. My weed from like a year ago still stanks!

I would like to add genetics plays a big role, but I also think the Epsom (sulfur) source played a big role as well. Towards the last few weeks I cut down on light and temperature to really help preserve the terp profile of the plants
 

Nizza

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That's a great question. I usually run out of height so it's pretty damn high. I actually ended up bleaching some of the tips last go around and should be doing alot less. I shut off a few of the boards and cut back on an hour or so of light , drop temps a bit, and back off nutrients and i think it makes a difference. This time around in my journal I'll record my ppfd

I am height limited so I usually run all my lights on the lowest dim setting possible
 

Apostatize

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That's a great question. I usually run out of height so it's pretty damn high. I actually ended up bleaching some of the tips last go around and should be doing alot less. I shut off a few of the boards and cut back on an hour or so of light , drop temps a bit, and back off nutrients and i think it makes a difference. This time around in my journal I'll record my ppfd

I am height limited so I usually run all my lights on the lowest dim setting possible
Thanks. I just did a quick but not thorough ingredients review of products I use (mainly dry Athena core, grow, bloom and various GH nectars/supplements).

Grow/Bloom include magnesium, but Floralicious Plus appears to be the only sulfur source (sulfur phosphate).
 

Nizza

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Thanks. I just did a quick but not thorough ingredients review of products I use (mainly dry Athena core, grow, bloom and various GH nectars/supplements).

Grow/Bloom include magnesium, but Floralicious Plus appears to be the only sulfur source (sulfur phosphate).
I was using the floralicious plus and it made my res pretty dirty. I changed to a recipe @Renfro shared a while ago and I love it.

30 gal RO water in order of how they're added( I use tap and probably 3/4 this recipe, I make the batch then dilute to the ppm I want)
60ml armor si
150 ml calimagic
45g Epsom salts
200ml micro (You can do 150-220ml all with good results)
200ml grow
250ml bloom
 
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