The Long March to 11/24

CANON_Grow

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DIY-HP-LED

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I'm watching MSNBC about DeSantis dropping out and endorsing tRump but can't find anything about it on the web yet.

I don't do Xitter but nothing shows up from that on a google search either.

:peace:
I'm more or less not wasting my time on the clown show or drama queens. I'm wait and see with Trump on disqualification and criminal convictions. I have no high expectations from the republican party, all that are left of it are idiots, miscreants, terrorists, insurrectionists, racists, fascists, grifters and other assorted character flawed fools.
 

printer

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Not too sure.

DeSantis drops out of GOP primary, endorses Trump for 2024
“It’s clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance,” the governor continued. “While I have had disagreements with Donald Trump such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci, Trump is superior to the current incumbent Joe Biden. That is clear.”

DeSantis went on to signal his support for Trump while hitting former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

“I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can’t go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear. A repackaged form of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.”
 

cannabineer

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Not too sure.

DeSantis drops out of GOP primary, endorses Trump for 2024
“It’s clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance,” the governor continued. “While I have had disagreements with Donald Trump such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci, Trump is superior to the current incumbent Joe Biden. That is clear.”

DeSantis went on to signal his support for Trump while hitting former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

“I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can’t go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear. A repackaged form of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.”
I’ll take warmed-over corporatism over blatant fascism any day!

However I’ll take social democracy over warmed-over whatever the day before any day!
 

Bagginski

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And then there’s this:
 

Bagginski

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I *watched* that live…seriously surreal…”old man attempts to engage with cloud”

All those under conditioning talked about how he just really took Clinton down, but it *really* didn’t have any GOP edge. Kinda like the “half-time in America” video he did for the superbowl (?)…a very ODD sort of message for gaggle-conservatives to make for viewers - and such an odd way of presenting it

Come to think of it, Clint’s been *very quiet* about everything
 

Bagginski

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I now see "slow hand" in a diff. light also, maybe??? he doesn't understand who he is REALLY helping here,disappointing.
Clapper’s standing took a big hit when it got around that the ‘blues man’ was a supporter of UKIP & Nigel Farrage (recent Trump rally GoH)
 

Bagginski

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He doesn't just think his supporters are idiots, he knows it for a fact, one of the few he knows. Anybody who votes republican is either ignorant, stupid or just plain evil, there are limited choices and Trump made those choices for them.

I will continue to point out that actual brainwashing/psycho-emotional programming/political indoctrination is a legitimate factor: there are a surprising number who have heard nothing but ‘conservative’ big juice their whole lives, who’ve been “very carefully taught” what to believe & how to react, just like their parents…and just like they’re passing on to their kids.

They imagine that their minds are free & they believe the fairy tails of their own free will. They cannot be talked out of it. They cannot be talked with about it. The lexicons no longer match.

If we pretend that ”the heartland” *wasn’t* preconditioned for something *like* MAGA beginning in the ‘70s, we forfeit any chance of understanding how we got here & why they’re welded to the idea that the facts are on their side: they aren’t stupid, they’ve been hoodwinked & conditioned psychologically, socially, emotionally - w/ “Christ & family”as the welding rod.
 

CANON_Grow

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Not too sure.

DeSantis drops out of GOP primary, endorses Trump for 2024
“It’s clear to me that a majority of Republican primary voters want to give Donald Trump another chance,” the governor continued. “While I have had disagreements with Donald Trump such as on the coronavirus pandemic and his elevation of Anthony Fauci, Trump is superior to the current incumbent Joe Biden. That is clear.”

DeSantis went on to signal his support for Trump while hitting former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley.

“I signed a pledge to support the Republican nominee and I will honor that pledge. He has my endorsement because we can’t go back to the old Republican guard of yesteryear. A repackaged form of warmed-over corporatism that Nikki Haley represents.”
Does that not signal that he likes the sound of the Donald and Ronald ticket? Ronald has got to be thinking this is his chance to serve 10 years as commander in chief. Let Donald fuck shit up for at least two years plus a day, and Ronald still gets the chance at two more elections, but as the incumbent that has the ability to legally issue pardons.

The world would sleep better if it was Haley, but why anyone would have faith that the Supreme court will allow states to remove dick tater is not something I can understand.
 

Bagginski

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Does that not signal that he likes the sound of the Donald and Ronald ticket? Ronald has got to be thinking this is his chance to serve 10 years as commander in chief. Let Donald fuck shit up for at least two years plus a day, and Ronald still gets the chance at two more elections, but as the incumbent that has the ability to legally issue pardons.

The world would sleep better if it was Haley, but why anyone would have faith that the Supreme court will allow states to remove dick tater is not something I can understand.
He’s too backwoods weasel-kin for that…he’s gone as far as a half-gram of charisma can take him.
He’s gonna be on his back counting his toes for the next six months

Can’t get too worked up about it: the entire GOP/“conservative”/“libertarian”/confederate mindset & Rolodex has proven itself unfit to participate in America’s governance
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Does that not signal that he likes the sound of the Donald and Ronald ticket? Ronald has got to be thinking this is his chance to serve 10 years as commander in chief. Let Donald fuck shit up for at least two years plus a day, and Ronald still gets the chance at two more elections, but as the incumbent that has the ability to legally issue pardons.

The world would sleep better if it was Haley, but why anyone would have faith that the Supreme court will allow states to remove dick tater is not something I can understand.

Nine Supreme Court Justices are being called upon to save democracy - can they do it?

With an insurrectionist who routinely threatens his political opponents and the free press running for president, American democracy is currently facing an existential crisis. Adding to that challenge is the U.S. Supreme Court, which has a right-wing majority and will ultimately decide whether Donald Trump can pursue the nation's highest office. Yet somehow, many Americans continue to downplay this danger, embracing a belief that autocracy could never happen in the United States and that the threat is overblown. But we only need to look to our own history to understand the consequences of normalizing such extremism. Kermit Roosevelt III, constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania, joined Ali Velshi to discuss the impact of today’s highly politicized Supreme Court.
 

CANON_Grow

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He’s too backwoods weasel-kin for that…he’s gone as far as a half-gram of charisma can take him.
He’s gonna be on his back counting his toes for the next six months

Can’t get too worked up about it: the entire GOP/“conservative”/“libertarian”/confederate mindset & Rolodex has proven itself unfit to participate in America’s governance
I agree they have proven to be unfit, just not sure enough of those that can vote understand that, yet.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I agree they have proven to be unfit, just not sure enough of those that can vote understand that, yet.
There is generational change, there is a churn of a few million voters every election cycle. Then there is demographic change and technologically driven economic changes could dramatically change the political dynamics of America in a decade. According to some predictions the biotech industry might be having an effect as early as 2030. I'm skeptical of the predictions, but continued research has me wondering about recently developed continuous flow bioreactors that have high capacity and low cost from a company called POW, I posted a video about them on the renewables thread. The industry is as diverse and complex as life itself and has orders of magnitude more possibilities than any other industry.

It might lead to a completely different political dynamic in rural America in a decade, if the predictions hold true, they will have other concerns than the border and many might be forced to move to liberal urban districts or have their districts absorbed into one as industries close and people move out. It would be the fastest agent of political change in America and greatly accelerate demographic shifts, removing more political power from rural America and Canada too, same thing here. Livestock agriculture and dairy might be under threat in a decade, but crop farming will exist for a long. time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Joe needs to mock Trump more and call him stupid and ignorant of even basic facts and is losing what little mind he has in plain sight. He's not senile, just stupid and always has been, attack his intellect. He feels most insecure about that, and his life has been one giant exercise in hiding the fact that he is dumb as a stump and deep down really knows it. He's not playing 3-dimensional chess, he's not playing with a full deck either and is drooling dumb.

If he actually had a brain, he would have won the 2020 election, in spite of killing more Americans with covid than Hitler killed did with war and being an immense asshole. By now America would be well on its way down the tubes, consumed in civil strife, bullshit and hate, while the world passes it by and China sells EVs, solar panels, batteries and robots to the rest of the planet. Tax cuts for the rich, fuck Medicare, Medicaid, and social security, make America poor, stupid, ignorant and powerless again, just like in the days of the founders. Who needs liberal schools anyway, save money and learn at home online, privatize prisons, run the country like a "business", a hundred billion or a dozen billion to build a new wall with Trump's buddies as contractors.

Americans and others are paying tariffs of over 200% on solar and batteries and probably EVs too because of the failure of government funding and industrial policy. How long will it take them to catch up on price? How long do we in North America pay for this policy failure and the stupidity of Trump, republicans and culture wars. China is selling solar panels, EVs and batteries to the rest of the world for very cheap, North America and to a lesser extent Europe are becoming economic islands in the global economy. They wanted free global trade, well, they've got it, in their faces! Those tariffs are the tax you and we pay for America being stupid and electing the likes of Trump or other assorted scumbags. When dumb ass culture wars are more important than facts and policy you pay a price. America no longer has the luxury of indulging in such idiocy as Trump or the republicans, smart serious people are required in government, not moronic drama queens with IQs of 85.


Biden mocks Trump over Haley, Pelosi mix-up

Former President Trump has also confused Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley for Speaker Emerita Nancy Pelosi, and President Biden's campaign is mocking Trump for the mix-up.
 

Fogdog

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I *watched* that live…seriously surreal…”old man attempts to engage with cloud”

All those under conditioning talked about how he just really took Clinton down, but it *really* didn’t have any GOP edge. Kinda like the “half-time in America” video he did for the superbowl (?)…a very ODD sort of message for gaggle-conservatives to make for viewers - and such an odd way of presenting it

Come to think of it, Clint’s been *very quiet* about everything
In interviews after 2016, he did not approve of Trump and his ways. He seems more like the "low taxes, low regulations, leave me alone" kind of conservative. The kind that doesn't want it so badly that they would destroy democracy to get it. I have always found his Dirty Harry character repugnant but that wasn't his only act. His movies about Iwo Jima were all about seeing the event from both sides. He's conservative and I've never supported Republicans but Trump has given me a new perspective of what is now referred to as loyal conservatives.

His last interviews were a few years ago. He's getting on in age. His bit at the convention seemed very, very odd. But his audience got it so I guess it was full of inside jokes that didn't make as much sense unless the viewer understood the context.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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He's conservative and I've never supported Republicans but Trump has given me a new perspective of what is now referred to as loyal conservatives.
The republican party planted the seeds of its own destruction decades ago and increasingly attracted racists and radicals. What was subtle and slow quickened in pace when Obama came to power and racists began to take more of an interest in politics and it became the thing not spoken about, every other "reason" but not too direct. Then came Trump and drove the decent patriotic people out of the party or side lined them. He offered the full-strength stuff, the big lie and the big con strongman stuff and they were under attack and needed a strong leader! His grift was better than Mitch's and Carl Rove's and he stole the party right out from under them as many with some sense left went independent. He also attracted new morons and miscreants to the party while driving out the good people. He owns the republican party, indictments, court cases and all and they know they are a shrinking white majority, and he is fucking crazy and desperate enough to give them what they really want deep down inside. Democracy itself takes second or even third place when compared to the imagined grievance of white America.
 
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