Donald Trump Private Citizen

[DIY-HP-LED]

If you mean the Tribe/Luttig piece in The Atlantic, that is no academic publication. The Atlantic is not a peer-reviewed academic journal, but journalistic in nature. It’s important to use terminology without license.

(edit) you mean something else. UPenn Law Review. That’s sorta academic.

Tribe and Luttig were just promoting the idea, here is the work, or an abstract that should be good enough for here.

The Sweep and Force of Section Three

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment forbids holding office by former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion. Because of a range

papers.ssrn.com

 

[cannabineer]

I got in and found the abstract.

Abstract
Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment forbids holding office by former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion. Because of a range of misperceptions and mistaken assumptions, Section Three’s full legal consequences have not been appreciated or enforced. This article corrects those mistakes by setting forth the full sweep and force of Section Three.

First, Section Three remains an enforceable part of the Constitution, not limited to the Civil War, and not effectively repealed by nineteenth century amnesty legislation. Second, Section Three is self-executing, operating as an immediate disqualification from office, without the need for additional action by Congress. It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications. Third, to the extent of any conflict with prior constitutional rules, Section Three repeals, supersedes, or simply satisfies them. This includes the rules against bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, the Due Process Clause, and even the free speech principles of the First Amendment. Fourth, Section Three covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support as “aid or comfort.” It covers a broad range of former offices, including the Presidency. And in particular, it disqualifies former President Donald Trump, and potentially many others, because of their participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.

Keywords: Constitution, Fourteenth Amendment, Section Three, Insurrection, Rebellion

By this standard, every one of the 140+ legislators who voted against certifying Biden’s win should get the high hard one pronto.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

By this standard, every one of the 140+ legislators who voted against certifying Biden’s win should get the high hard one pronto.

That might be another consequence of this trial and J6 precedent, others in congress could get snarled up in it too, if J6 was good enough for Trump to be disqualified why not others who could be brought to civil trial where the evidence standards are not as high. The various J6 criminal cases might aid in this too. Gym Jordan is nervous about something ya can smell the fear and he might be one rat away from indictment, I figure Jack wants his ass if he thinks he is guilty, and Gym wanted that pardon for something.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Imagine after Jack locks up Trump in DC and he is disqualified too, who might his coconspirators in DC be? The usual suspects for sure, but what if Jack goes into congress before the election and there are some prime targets there. A big criminal conspiracy case has many advantages and makes it easy to get convictions when the rats start squealing and dealing, Gym Jordan's ass should be good for a walk or close, if someone needed to sell it to Jack.

If anybody in the DC conspiracy case looking at 20 years needs a deal, congress people would fetch the highest bid, get in early though!

 

[cannabineer]

That might be another consequence of this trial and J6 precedent, others in congress could get snarled up in it too, if J6 was good enough for Trump to be disqualified why not others who could be brought to civil trial where the evidence standards are not as high. The various J6 criminal cases might aid in this too. Gym Jordan is nervous about something ya can smell the fear and he might be one rat away from indictment, I figure Jack wants his ass if he thinks he is guilty, and Gym wanted that pardon for something.

Him and Gan and Boebs and Pedobear and Cancun and Hawlin Ass and Tatertown and Gosar and

 

[topcat]

A proposed gag order on Trump in his federal election case is putting the judge in a tricky position

A request from prosecutors for a gag order aimed at reining in Donald Trump’s rhetoric is putting the judge overseeing his federal election interference case in a tricky position.

apnews.com

Judges can threaten gag order violators with fines or jail time, but jailing a presidential candidate could prompt serious political blowback and pose logistical hurdles.

I think we need to take this one head-on. We need to find out by doing it. The bolded, if heeded, places candidates above the rule of law. Were that man anyone else (like Teixeira) he’d be jailed pending trial after all his judicially proscribed behaviors, such as the infamous “if you go after me” post.

The above looks to me like a distortion of the legal process grounded in politics. This is an opportunity for Judge Chutkan to show courage in containing that man’s ongoing criminal defiance against already existing restrictions.

I agree. It would be just, and more satisfying to jail him. She could avoid the 1st Amendment issue by moving the trial date up to Jan. 2, 2024, as she warned could be the penalty for his vitriol.

 

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I agree. It would be just, and more satisfying to jail him. She could avoid the 1st Amendment issue by moving the trial date up to Jan. 2, 2024, as she warned could be the penalty for his vitriol.

His lawyers could appeal the case on grounds that they did not have enough time. Better to put him in jail.

 

[topcat]

His lawyers could appeal the case on grounds that they did not have enough time. Better to put him in jail.

They're already using that line. Nobody can't stop them from appealing on any grounds.

 

[printer]

They're already using that line. Nobody can't stop them from appealing on any grounds.

Yes, but the appeal court has more reason to side with an opinion for trump if the time is moved up. I do not want to see him given even a slim hope.

 

[cannabineer]

Yes, but the appeal court has more reason to side with an opinion for trump if the time is moved up. I do not want to see him given even a slim hope.

If an appeal is deemed frivolous, that could get expensive. I have a hunch that expensive is not so good for defendant and co. at this time.

 

[BudmanTX]

Orange dumb dumb just got himself GAGed in DC...bout time

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I agree. It would be just, and more satisfying to jail him. She could avoid the 1st Amendment issue by moving the trial date up to Jan. 2, 2024, as she warned could be the penalty for his vitriol.

If he is disqualified from running starting in November with a ruling in Colorado and then finalized by the SCOTUS in December, it would cut Trump off at the knees as far as a gag order is concerned. Infact, getting disqualified might make Donald freak out and get himself jailed as well as disqualified! His two co-defendants in Georgia should be found guilty by December too and a lot more people will plead out.

I'm wonder what will happen when they slomo disqualify him one court level at a time until the SCOTUS gives him the boot. I would be surprised if they didn't disqualify him and so would a lot of legal experts and pundits. Politics will no longer be a factor in his prosecution should be one result of disqualification.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

James Bond strikes again!

Trump and Ivanka's relationship was 'severely damaged' after he found out she was friends with Christopher Steele, the former MI6 agent says

The former MI6 agent Christopher Steele had a friendship with Ivanka Trump that enraged her father when he found out, Steele said in court Tuesday.

www.businessinsider.com

Trump and Ivanka's relationship was 'severely damaged' after he found out she was friends with Christopher Steele, the former MI6 agent says

• A former MI6 agent said his friendship with Ivanka Trump hurt her relationship with her dad.
• Their relationship was "severely damaged" by the revelation, Christopher Steele said Tuesday.
• The remarks came as part of the former president's case against Steele and his infamous dossier.

Former President Donald Trump's relationship with his daughter Ivanka broke down "severely" when the somewhat awkward news emerged that she had an undisclosed friendship with Christopher Steele, the former MI6 agent said on Tuesday.

Steele made the remarks in a witness statement as part of legal proceedings in London, where Trump is suing Steele's intelligence company over the now notorious dossier on Trump that Steele wrote in 2016, The Associated Press reported.

Trump, for his part, rejected Steele's testimony, including the comments about his daughter.

The former commander in chief has accused Orbis Business Intelligence, Steele's company, of violating UK data-protection laws with the dossier, which included many salacious allegations of compromising encounters between Trump and Russian figures.

 

[cannabineer]

Trump Media's merger with DWAC gets regulatory nod. Trump could get a stake worth $4 billion.

Merger could provide new funding for Truth Social and give former President Trump a stake worth almost $4 billion.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[CCGNZ]

Trump Media's merger with DWAC gets regulatory nod. Trump could get a stake worth $4 billion.

Merger could provide new funding for Truth Social and give former President Trump a stake worth almost $4 billion.

www.cbsnews.com

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This MF had to shake hands w/Satan himself,just the GA. phone call alone should have doomed his ass. Rape,Fraud,Slander,inciting violence,and playing loose w/National Security(documents) and he still has a pulse all the while pounding Big Macs and no exercise. WTF,he prob. does need a stake driven through his DARK heart,I literally change channel or mute when he is running his mouth,I just can't handle his sorry ass schtict using the same ol,same ol buzzwords WITCH HUNT,RADICAL LEFT DEMS.,DERANGED JUDGE and PROSECUTORS,PERFECT THIS PERFECT THAT

 

[CCGNZ]

Reinforcing my amazement that this cowardly lion of a man has confounding veteran and service support I read a NY Times letter to the ed. in the Op-Ed section. A ret. LT. Col. Westmoreland from LA. said he was miffed and went through Trumps outright disses from his treatment of a gold ribbon family of Sikh Indian descent to Sen Mc Cain to his refusal to visit graves in France calling them suckers. This Lt. Col. said Trumps right "There are suckers in the military,just not those buried in Normandy".

 

[cannabineer]

… (hung quote)

What is a double headscratcher is that, for the usual deal with the devil, that man showed up broke.

Who knows — maybe he is defrauding hell itself at this point.

In a normal universe, he’d have been jailed several times over by now. His staying power is unholy. Perhaps he is the harbinger of the end times John of Patmos warned us about while tripping hard on some nightshade tea.

 

[Nugnewbie]

DIY throttled again? Banned? Stuck in a snow bank? Haven't seen a post from him for a bit.

 

[CCGNZ]

What is a double headscratcher is that, for the usual deal with the devil, that man showed up broke.

Who knows — maybe he is defrauding hell itself at this point.

In a normal universe, he’d have been jailed several times over by now. His staying power is unholy. Perhaps he is the harbinger of the end times John of Patmos warned us about while tripping hard on some nightshade tea.

Head scratching,hair pulling,while his sense of reality is clearly distorted (the shit that's come out of his mouth during Covid and NATO meetings just to name a few),yet Biden is questioned,all the while crowds of admirers STILL show up for his disconnected ,discordant,ramblings,that increasingly resemble a night club act for a Presidential run have me wondering if my reality is distorted somehow as it's increasingly feeling like I'm in a 'Twilight Zone " episode

 

[Fogdog]

Trump Media's merger with DWAC gets regulatory nod. Trump could get a stake worth $4 billion.

Merger could provide new funding for Truth Social and give former President Trump a stake worth almost $4 billion.

www.cbsnews.com

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Russian money flows through DWAC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/03/trump-social-dwac-investigation/

" a Ukraine-born nightclub manager turned private equity investor named Michael Shvartsman, told his business partners and a neighbor about the moneymaking opportunity, according to the affidavit — before securing $18 million in profits for himself."

Shvartsman (lol, I didn't make it up)

"Shvartsman had helped run a nightclub in the 1990s in Edmonton, Alberta, called Kaos that local police alleged was financed by the Russian mob, a 2022 Financial Times report said — a claim Shvartsman denied, and for which he was never charged. He also founded Transact First, a company whose “cashless ATMs” help marijuana dispensaries transfer money from banks that would otherwise reject them as customers under federal law, according to a Bloomberg News report in 2022, which called him the “granddaddy” of the “major cashless ATM players.”"

From other articles, I get the sense that Shvarty left Canada because the heat was on and he couldn't take it. Miami was a much better place to run a money laundering operation.