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Orban's party is't even the worst in Hungary:
'Nightmare' 2024 sees Orbán struggle ahead of EU elections
Viktor Orbán admits that 2024 "could not have started any worse" for his government. The sex-abuse scandal that led to the resignation of the president provides an opportunity for Hungary's opposition — but their fragmentation could be a major obstacle.
euobserver.com
For the EU parliament elections, national parties from all EU members form coalitions/groups to enter.Political scientists say Our Homeland could lure away the radical voters of Fidesz who are unhappy with the corruption of the ruling elite. But Toroczkai believes his party has a lot of reserves on all political sides because its policies are "sincere and honest".
Though the party has yet to announce its list of candidates for the European elections, Toroczkai is already quite certain of which political group they would join.
"We have a very close relationship with the German AfD, we definitely want to be in the same group as they are, even if that means establishing [a] completely new one", he said.
Another thing Toroczkai is also certain of one thing: Our Homeland will not sit in the same group as Fidesz.
Another sign is that the radical right is trying to distance itself from Orbán and find its own voice on the European stage.
Our Homeland Movement
"Although the party identifies itself as "third way", opposing the policies of both the left-wing opposition and [Orban's] right-wing governing party Fidesz, Our Homeland Movement and its ideology has been variously described by the mass-media as: nationalist, right-wing populist, far-right, radical right, extremist, and even as neo-fascist by the European Roma Rights Centre. The party has anti-immigration, anti-Islam, anti-Masonry and pro-Russian views, and was additionally accused of antiziganism, antisemitism and neo-fascism. The party holds national conservative, traditionalist and social conservative positions.
Among 18-29 yr olds, it's (in 2023) with 22% the most popular party. An example of an ultra-right party stretching the overton window to a point far-right doesn't look that 'far' anymore and becomes normalized.
So if Orban upports anything against Russia, he loses voters to his main competitors who actuall 'are' pro-Russian and don't just do whatever they have to to stay in power.
Aside from the usual, they, like I recently mentioned in regards to Portugal's far-right, hate Romani people (travelers with Indian roots, gypsies). In Portugal there are only 40K or so, in Hungary 700k (7% of population).
The Soviets didn't like them either:
"According to a prevailing racist logic that assumed Gypsies to be universally illiterate, peculiarly nomadic, stubbornly marginal, socially parasitic, thieving, diseased, and superstitious, Roma threatened to jeopardise all of the Soviet Union’s modernising goals."
For the nazis they were subhumans:
Genocide of European Roma (Gypsies), 1939–1945
Learn about the history of discrimination against Roma in Europe and how the Nazi regime committed genocide against European Roma during WWII.
encyclopedia.ushmm.org
Our Homeland Movement wants to restore Hungary to its original pre WW1 treaty borders:
Yes, many Hungarians would like that piece of Ukraine.
When Hitler rose to power Hungary wanted an alliance, joined the axis of evil in 1940, partly because Hitler gave them (back) land. Hungary tried to back out the alliance only after the Germans, including Hungarians, were defeated in Stalingrad. In 1944 Hitler invaded Hungary.
In 2021, the Parliament of Hungary promulgated the so-called Hungarian anti-LGBT law, which aims to ban all content for children that may be considered as "promoting homosexuality" and which makes a relationship between the LGBT community and pedophilia. This received a heavy negative response from other countries of the EU, with Prime Minister of the Netherlands Mark Rutte even suggesting Prime Minister of Hungary Viktor Orbán to leave the EU.
There's a good vid from Orban whining like a kid to a reporter that Rutte just doesn't like him. If Rutte gets the head of NATO job he won't take any crap from Orban. Most leaders in EU are very much fed up with Orban.
Polls showed by far most Hungarians want to stay in the EU. Only a little over 50% favors NATO alliance though.
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