Blaze & Daze

Dboybudz

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I think Bugbee added verm and if I was trying to grow plants in space like he was I'd probably grow in the most water retaining medium I could find. A zero grav SIP would be most interesting lol. But I digress. I couldn't water as often with verm in the mix and I water twice a day right now. Long ago I watered plants in clay pebbles 5 times a day but that was recirculating.
Haha that's exactly who I was talking about!
 

Dboybudz

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I did a couple of grows using Bugbee's soil mix and some Jacks 20-10-20. I had mixed results.
I still have almost 50 lbs of powdered dolomitic lime and 20 lbs of gypsum pellets.
I had problems with the 2nd grow and ended up emergency transplanting into Pro-mix.
Well now I got to figure out something else because that's what I was doing wrote it all done, pellets,lime in grams to use exactly same recipe.
 

laddyd

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Well now I got to figure out something else because that's what I was doing wrote it all done, pellets,lime in grams to use exactly same recipe.
I think I mixed it wrong the 2nd time, maybe too much gypsum. My peat was also suspect. I used Jacks 20-10-20 citrus feed instead of the 20-10-20 peatlite.
On top of all that I had gnats exacerbated by air pots.
The first grow I did manage a decent amount of good pot in spite of the gnats.
 

Dboybudz

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I think I mixed it wrong the 2nd time, maybe too much gypsum. My peat was also suspect. I used Jacks 20-10-20 citrus feed instead of the 20-10-20 peatlite.
On top of all that I had gnats exacerbated by air pots.
The first grow I did manage a decent amount of good pot in spite of the gnats.
Yea I looked at his Jack fertilizer in that ratio he says and all I could find was that citrus feed one. I'll check that peatlite. This is my first go with inside so I'm all over which to use. Living soil @Budzbuddha has good one with ffof and some dynomycro misted then throw your transplant on that and fill rest with regular soil and perlite to top leaving room for dry amendment every month triple 4. Also a feed twice a month with seaweed. Nothing else sounds good but who knows.
 

StareCase

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... I won't have anything to harvest for a while ...
Moi aussie ...

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The Diesel is huge compared to the wee Cheese in the foreground.

Here be the byproduct of the Scugog Mite Fight that took place over these past 6 weeks. I was "guilted" into bringing an outdoor plant, purchased a few hours earlier from a nursery as an honour to The Little Spud, into the indoor VEG area.

STUPID ME!

About 5 weeks into BLOOM, I noticed a shitload of off-white speckled fans - more so on the Diesel. Checking with both LG and C2G, they confirmed that the issue was spider mites. Checking with a magnifier, I saw mini webs in the nodes and "scurrying black specks" on the back of those leaves. The mites hitched a ride from the nursery plant.

STUPID ME!

These two ottoman sized ladies in the BLOOM tent:

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with branches stacking really nicely ............................. had to be completely culled.

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The branches were taken to the back forest and tossed into the brush. The BLOOM lights went dark and have been that way since mid January.

Fortunately, I had taken cuts while still in VEG and they had rooted. But when I checked the clones under the mag, I saw the same little black scurrying specks and mini webs! Further proof that the problem was in the VEG area. So I gave the clones a citric acid wash and two further wipe-downs with a water/ISO mix over the next 10 days. Daily inspection over those 10 days did not reveal any webs or mites. And the clones began to recover.

Once the clones started to recover, they also started to look like they were monster cropped. Elongated single fingers, darker green, no serrated edges, excessive stem stretch - all symptomatic of a re-veg. This stem stretch led to a couple of previous Cheese clones to be scrapped. While the Cheese seemed to struggle to get re-started, the Diesel exploded.

And after several weeks of re-vegging, both are back again and the spread has resumed. I see no more little black spots scurrying on the underside of the fans, there are no more webs in between the nodes or the spaces in between the frons of the leaves and I do not see any off-white freckling on the large fans. Both are now back on their regular VEG feed routine

The coaxee has learned to never put an outdoor plant under the indoor lights (STUPID ME!) and the coaxer has learned to never ask again.

The Diesel will see the inside of the BLOOM tent but the Cheese won't. In 14 days, I intend to take cuts off of both to get the Next Generation ready. And since the Diesel is gonna have the 2 x 4 all to itself for 10 weeks, I am going to see how wide I can spread that lady in these next 2 weeks.
 

StareCase

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... That is an epic battle you have waged against a most bitter foe! ...
The little pricks are almost invisible. Even under 10X mag, they looked like slightly larger black pepper flakes.
... Very sorry for your losses ...
Appreciate the condolences @shnkrmn. While culling those two babes was rather depressing, my spirits quickly rebounded all thanks to "The Tower of Babble"

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laddyd

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Yea I looked at his Jack fertilizer in that ratio he says and all I could find was that citrus feed one. I'll check that peatlite. This is my first go with inside so I'm all over which to use. Living soil @Budzbuddha has good one with ffof and some dynomycro misted then throw your transplant on that and fill rest with regular soil and perlite to top leaving room for dry amendment every month triple 4. Also a feed twice a month with seaweed. Nothing else sounds good but who knows.
I don't think the citrus feed has the right micro nutrients. I'm having good luck these days with GH maxi grow then maxi bloom. That would probably work on Bugbee's mix. Good luck sourcing the dolomitic lime, I ended up getting 50 lbs at Tractor supply for 4 bucks.
Budzbuddha knows his shit, you couldn't go wrong with his method. Then there's always Pro-Mix HP and the nutrients of your choice.
 
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